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aronmigz 
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Im trying to install power locks on ny 88 toyota pickup with no luck. The only cinfiguration of wiring that powers either lock or unlock only does one of both AT ALL. I tried atleast 4 different wiring setups for the relays. Im no newbie to mechanics but this relays are kicking my azz. I got an alarm installed and attempted to do the locks but ill be lucky to get unlock going
The only wiring i got working is as follows on both relays..
85----12v fused
86----ground to chassis
30----neg. Pulsed from alarm
87----to door lock actuator(lock/unlock)
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Door control relay is located behind the driver dash speaker. From my info they are negative triggers so no need for relays...BROWN / white for
Solder, tape, repeat!
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Whoops that was a case of big thumbs and a little phone! BROWN / white is lock (-). Unlock is pink/white also (-)....behind the drivers dash speaker...hope that helps
Solder, tape, repeat!
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i am an idiot wrote:
Aftermarket actuators?
If so: https://www.the12volt.com/doorlocks/page3.asp#arp
Yes aftermarket with green and blue wires
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shark mobile wrote:
Whoops that was a case of big thumbs and a little phone! BROWN / white is lock (-). Unlock is pink/white also (-)....behind the drivers dash speaker...hope that helps
Sorry i shoulfve mentioned its a 88 toyota pickup with no original powerlocks installed so no original neg pulse lines to tap into
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When i wire the relays with the output to the actuators on 87 and neg pulse in on 30, it seems to operate unlock only.
As soon as i connect power it energizes the coil and the relay clicks. Which is good but this cause my relays to be hot all the time..
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https://www.the12volt.com/relays/relays.asp Read and comprehend this! I personally like to use 30 as my power input. This is because 87 and 87a are the two poles being switched by the relay. These are the poles outputting the work, i.e.; going to your actuators. (30 and 87 interchangeable, as end result is the same.) 85 and 86 are the connectors that change the poles. Pulse from unit to one or the other, other is ground/hot as needed per negative pulse or positive pulse.
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Actually, use a dedicated lock timer relay from Spall, MES (the older blue is best).
Also only one master is needed (5 wire) for driver door .
You need a timer because when the master actuator goes back to rest the NEG going switched wire STAYS NEG.
If you're just using 2 wire motors then you won't need a relay, use a Spall window switch effectively a 2 pole changeover momentary centre off switch, readily available from Mouser etc.
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Thanks for all the help guys.
Aron Migz
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