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roryemmans 
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Posted: December 09, 2002 at 3:03 PM / IP Logged  

I have a 1993 Chevrolet Suburban and am in ther process of installing a remote start with no luck.  I can get the vehicle to crank but it will not start.  I have two new Design Tech remote starters model 26727 & 26327 with the same results.  I suspect it is something to do with the ignition wires but am not positive and have read the install instructions and contacted their tech support a few times with no luck.  All wires tested out at 12 volts in the correct key position. I am assuming that the install instructions are missing something that I am not aware of. I have listed the wiring information below for my vehicle.  If anybody has any information that could help me it would be greatly appreciated. 

 

Remote Starter  Wiring Colors and Notes

Function

 

DTI Color

Vehicle  Color

Location

Start:

 

Yellow

YELLOW OR VIOLET

IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS **

Ignition  #1:

 

Blue

PINK

IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS

Ignition #2:

 

Green

ORANGE

IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS (HEAT/AC) ***

Ignition  #3:

 

Wht/Blk

N/A

Accessory:

 

White

BROWN

IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS (WIPERS/RADIO)

Brake  Light:

 

Orange

WHITE

(+) SWITCH ON BRAKE PEDAL BRACKET

Tach  Signal:

 

Green

WHITE

AT DISTRIBUTOR *

Parking Lights:

 

Yellow

BROWN

(+) AT HEADLIGHT SWITCH

Headlights:

 

Yellow

YELLOW (+)

HEADLIGHT SWITCH OR BEAM SELECT SW.

OEM Alarm  Disarm:

 

Brn/Wht

N/A

OEM Alarm  Arm:

 

n/a

N/A

Diesel  Glow Plug:

 

RED / Black

Clutch  Bypass Wire:

 

n/a

Notes:

 * WHITE Wire At Ignition Coil Or At Tach Test Connector (2 Pin Plug) Taped To Harness Next To Distributor Can Also Be Used For Tach Signal. ** See Note #300 - GM Rear Wheel Drive Vehicles *** See Note #216 - High Current Ignition Wires Diagram.


Chevrolet

Suburban

1992-1994

Alarm and Keyless  Entry Wiring Colors and Notes

Function

 

DTI Color

Vehicle  Color

Location

Constant  +12 Volts:

 

Red

RED AND RED

IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS

Starter  Kill:

 

Vlt or Wht

YELLOW OR VIOLET

IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS **

Ignition  +12 Volts:

 

Orange

PINK

IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS

Dome  Lights/Superv:

 

Brown

BLACK/ ORANGE

(-) AT PIN SWITCH

OEM Horn:

 

Blue

BLACK (-)

STEERING COLUMN HARNESS OR HORN RELAY

Power  Lock:

 

Wht/Red

LIGHT BLUE

DRIVER'S KICK PANEL IN CAVITY OR

Power  Unlock:

 

Yel/Red

BLACK

RELAYS BESIDE GAS PEDAL ****

Trunk  Release:

 

Grn/Wht

BROWN (+)

RELEASE SW.(REAR WINDOW RELEASE)

Alarm  Input Wire:

 

R/W or Gy/Bk

BLACK/ ORANGE

(-) AT PIN SWITCH

Notes:

**** See Note #202 - Positive Pulse Door Lock Diagram.


DesignTech  International, Inc.

Tel: (703)  866-2000 Fax: (703) 866-2001

©2002  All Rights Reserved

7955 Cameron  Brown Court

Springfield, Virginia 22153 USA

1-800-DESIGNTECH

(1-800-337-4468)

DesignTech  International, Inc.

www.designtech-intl.com

DesignTech disclaims any liability or responsibility arising out of any inaccuracies of this information or use of this

information for installations or otherwise. Please verify all wiring for accuracy prior to making any connections.

Thanks in advance
Rory Emmans
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Posted: December 09, 2002 at 3:16 PM / IP Logged  

Use your voltmeter to probe the wires behind the key. There will be one wire

(usually a large diameter wire) which you have not hooked up to which is hot in the

run and crank position, which is the missing wire. Simply connect one of our IGN1

or IGN2 wires to this wire. If you already are using both of these wires (IGN1 and

IGN2) – you may find that one of them is an Accessory wire which should have

been powered up by the white Accessory wire. If not, and you need both of these

for ignition – and yet still need the 3rd ignition wire – simply jumper this new wire

over to the AutoCommand®’s IGN1 or IGN2 wire. Or, use the transistor output of

IGN3, which is available on some models, and be sure to have this IGN3 output

drive a relay to power up your new ignition wire.

Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
roryemmans 
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Posted: December 09, 2002 at 3:45 PM / IP Logged  
Thanks for the quick response.  From everything I read I do not have a third IGN wire for a 1993 Suburban.  One guy from Design Tech told me to swap IGN 2 wire( from orange to Brown) and change the accessory wire from (Brown to orange) but I had the same results.  Do you know if the Ignition wiring diagram is correct for a 1993 Suburban Pink for IGN1 and  Orange for IGN2?
Thanks in advance
Rory Emmans
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Posted: December 09, 2002 at 7:40 PM / IP Logged  

This is what I have for the Burban:

|       ITEM      |     WIRE COLOR     |POL|       WIRE LOCATION        |

|              12V|red                 |+  |ignition harness            |
|          STARTER|yellow or purple    |+  |ignition harness            |
|         IGNITION|pink                |+  |ignition harness            |
|        ACCESSORY|orange              |+  |ignition harness            |
|       POWER LOCK|lt. blue            |+  |either door boot            |
|     POWER UNLOCK|BLACK/ red           |+  |either door boot            |
| PARKING LIGHTS +|brown               |   |headlight switch *1         |
|       HEADLIGHTS|yellow              |+  |headlight switch            |
|     DOOR TRIGGER|white               |-  |headlight switch            |
| DOME SUPERVISION|use door trigger    |   |                            |
|  TRUNK/HATCH PIN|tied in with doors  |   |                            |
|TRNK/HTCH RELEASE|black               |+  |release switch              |
|       TACHOMETER|PURPLE / white *2     |   |ECM *3                      |
|      SPEED SENSE|green               |4  |ECM *3                      |
|       BRAKE WIRE|white               |+  |brake pedal switch          |
|     HORN TRIGGER|black               |-  |steering column             |
|           WIPERS|purple              |+  |steering column             |
|  LF WINDOW UP/DN|dk. blue - brown    |A  |drivers door switch         |
|  RF WINDOW UP/DN|lt.blue - tan       |A  |drivers door or boot        |
|  LR WINDOW UP/DN|green - purple      |A  |drivers door or boot        |
|  RR WINDOW UP/DN|lt. grn - purple    |A  |drivers door or boot        |

Notes:

*1 Also found low in the drivers kick panel.  *2 Also found as white at the instrument cluster. For diesel tach, use white at the alternator or instrument cluster. Diesel wait to start wire is dk. blue (+) located at the instrument cluster.  *3 The ECM is located behind the glove box to the right side.

Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
donsmith249 
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On the dash does the security light go off when trying to start, if not sounds like pass lock 2 is the problem.

Don Smith
Plano TX
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Also there is a second ign. wire that must be powered up when starting a thin gauge white wire, dei tech support to me on the 03 you must power up the brown and orange wires when remote starting.
Don Smith
Plano TX
roryemmans 
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Sorry to wait so long to get back but i lost my HD on my PC and had to rebuild.  No security light on my 1993. No passlock on the 1993 suburban (started in 1995) from what little i know. I have IGN 1 (Blue) going to Pinkl, have IGN 2(green) wire going to the Orange and accessory (white) wire going to the brown per DEI instructions.

Thanks in advance
Rory Emmans
donsmith249 
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Sorry was thinking 03'
Don Smith
Plano TX
roryemmans 
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Posted: December 16, 2002 at 10:30 AM / IP Logged  

FYI it turns out the problems was in the connectors I was using.  I retermintaed these connections without connectiors and it works great.  Thanks for everbody's input

Rory

Thanks in advance
Rory Emmans

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