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vstar 
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Posted: July 14, 2004 at 2:10 AM / IP Logged  

Alright I have my playstation 2 in my car hooked up to an in-dash 7in lcd monitor. The power inverter is 400w and I only have my ps2 hooked up to it which is I think about 170w or something around there. It works fine and I can keep it on for hours without any problems. Now I tryed to watch a movie in my car with the engine turned off, and the power inverter started beeping and turned off. I'm wondering if I bought a higher watt power inverter, would that solve my problem and allow me to watch movies without my engine on? Like I said everything works fine with the engine running, but I wanted to relax and watch a movie with my girlfriend after driving many hours, and I couldn't =[

Is that something that I just have to deal with or can I fix this? Thanks guys.

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Posted: July 14, 2004 at 10:32 PM / IP Logged  
Well that power inverter is drawing current with the car on or off. So if you run movies with the car off guess what? Yeap, you guessed-dead battery. If you want to do something like you are talking about get a second battery.
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Jay T 
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Posted: July 14, 2004 at 11:32 PM / IP Logged  
Beeping and shut off is a safety feature.  When the inverter sees that the voltage of your battery drops below 10.6 it will turn off so you can still crank over your engine.  Like Teamrf said.... get a second battery or one deep cycle like an optima or exide orbital to use for starting and engine-off viewing.
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Posted: July 15, 2004 at 9:21 AM / IP Logged  
VSTAR,
   Hey, man. Wanna super easy custom alternative? Why bother taking 12VDC converting to 120VAC, just to have a converter take it back down to 12VDC? If you have the extra cash to have 2 PS2 (one in house, on in car), open up the PS2, and take out the AC Power supply. Took me about 15-20 minutes my first time. Fortunately, the PS2 required 12VDC @ about 3.0 Amps. I wired in a 12V regulator with the proper capacitors and regulate the car's DC power (anywhere from 12.0VDC up to 14.0VDC) down to 12.0VDC for the PS2. I hooked up a molex connector so I can move the PS2, and ran 12Gauge wire from the battery (fused, of course), and power the PS2, 2 6" screens, and 1 7" screen. Make sure you fuse all the powers, too. Total cost for the regulator circuit was about $10 if you buy retail, or check Digikey.com. You have to buy more in quantity to save money, but you can offer to convert other friend's cars, too. Not sure about the XB power requirements, and I think the GC uses 12VDC (with the power inverter as part of the AC cord).
How is that for a solution? Just a little solder, and some patience, and you have a great video system. Email if you need anymore help. I have pics of my PS2 as I took it apart.
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Posted: July 15, 2004 at 1:17 PM / IP Logged  
Regardless of how the PS2 is wired, he still needs more battery. 
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Posted: July 15, 2004 at 2:31 PM / IP Logged  
Jay T, why would vstar need 'more battery'? The PS2 only draws about 4 amps max. The LCD screens are on the order of milliamps. Even with the car turned completely off the battery is still able to produce much more than 20 amps at anyone time, for a long period of time. Plenty of juice more a small video system like this. Larger audio systems in particular is a completely different story.
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Posted: July 15, 2004 at 2:43 PM / IP Logged  

His battery is shot.  If the inverter is beeping and shutting off then its senses low voltage.  Its a safety feature that I also have on mine.  He didn't mention anything about a stereo but chances are that his audio has to come from somewhere.  You don't watch movies or play video games without sound. Which is also a draw. If he wired it your way, he'd have no safety and would run the battery dry enough to not be able to crank the engine. This is of course assuming that he doesn't have a loose wire or something else.  Just needs a new battery not  "more battery"

There is nothing wrong with your wiring it is great if you want to tuck it away somewhere custom.  But it easier to run two wires if you already have an inverter than it is to open up the PS2 and re-regulate it.  Which also voids the warranty. 

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Posted: July 15, 2004 at 5:06 PM / IP Logged  

Is it that simple just to get a new battery and put it in the trunk or something?

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Posted: July 15, 2004 at 6:01 PM / IP Logged  
nope... gotta get an isolator or separator.........or get four batteries (series + parrallel), i've only seen that once
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thought so thanks
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