terminal connectors needed
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Topic: terminal connectors needed
Posted By: dadtruck
Subject: terminal connectors needed
Date Posted: October 11, 2009 at 7:37 PM
Re-working a 95 Caravan relay box to fit the wiring needs of a 83 D-150 the Caravan "power control module" houses 7 relays, fuses,, will use it to centralize electrical relays for electric fan, HEI, head light, blower motor relays. I need to do some minor re-wiring of the main body of the power control module, I have figured out how to get the existing female terminal connectors out. I have found (molex and mouser ) a source of simular open barrel connectors, but they are not identical. The original connectors used by Chrysler were a two piece design, gives a real nice fit to the blade terminal of the relay. There is a photo here https://www.flickr.com/photos/13718356@N02/?saved=1 Blade size is .030 / .86mm thick and .250 / 6.4mm wide The one through molex are a single piece connector design, anyone have an idea where I could find a few of these two piece designs for a 14 to 16 gauge and 10 to 12 gauge wire thanks ------------- DadTruck
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Posted By: ckeeler
Date Posted: October 12, 2009 at 3:10 PM
CARQUEST part #CG36 for package qty of 10, or #TA731 for package qty of 4. they are only available in 18-20ga
Posted By: dadtruck
Date Posted: October 12, 2009 at 6:55 PM
thanks,, i'll check it out,, been hitting lots of electrical supply houses, never thought about looking there
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DadTruck
Posted By: ckeeler
Date Posted: October 12, 2009 at 10:05 PM
that terminal is specifically a chrysler type terminal, thus the reason its harder to get from an electrical supplier and more readily available from a good auto parts store.
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: October 13, 2009 at 6:06 PM
Basicly any of the terminals on any vehicle from anywhere in the world will be made by either Amp/Tycho/Amphenol (all the same company) or Molex.
Posted By: Ween
Date Posted: October 13, 2009 at 7:25 PM
don't forget Delphi too. m
Posted By: ckeeler
Date Posted: October 13, 2009 at 10:48 PM
howie ll wrote:
Basicly any of the terminals on any vehicle from anywhere in the world will be made by either Amp/Tycho/Amphenol (all the same company) or Molex.
i'm gonna disagree howie, like ween says, dont forget delphi...they are a major manufacturer of OE connectors for dozens of auto makers, and the one i'm surprized you forgot (being that you are in Europe and all) is Deutsch. I dont know how much Deutsch has their hands into OE connectors over their, but you would be amazed at how much of the OE stuff over here is made by Deutsch.
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: October 14, 2009 at 2:27 AM
You're right two manufacturers would be impossible, it's just that when I open a Siemens control box be it a BMW, a UK made Toyota or a Focus or a Fiat the connector plugs always seem to be AMP . Another thought about suppliers. The British equivalents to to Scosche etc all have selections of terminals relay bases etc etc. As do most of the specialist suppliers. It might be worthwhile looking at Scosche, etc.
Posted By: 1043
Date Posted: October 14, 2009 at 4:09 PM
I like what dadtruck is doing - looks like a great upgrade for an older vehicle. I would like to do something similiar, if you had to chose a oem relay box to modify, which one would offer the easiest to find terminals?? I have 9 relays in my truck now and they are wired very neatly, but a box would be even better. What say you experts.....
Posted By: dadtruck
Date Posted: October 14, 2009 at 7:10 PM
Chose the 95 Caravan Power Control Module as I was also using a elecrtic radiator fan from a 95 Caravan, as those are reported to fit well in a D-150 The Power Module ( including the 7 relays and fuses) was 12.00 and the fan was 15.00 at the local Pull a Part, as I was doing the pulling a part was careful to get as much of the wiring harness and connectors as possible. Will use butt connectors to re make the electric fan wiring harness, also want to use relays for low and high beam lights, other than the fan relays the rest of the module wiring is quite light, hence the need for the terminals and crimpers...but the box is fairly compact, has a nice lid, comes with a handy mounting bracket, two power in buss bar terminals... ------------- DadTruck
Posted By: 1043
Date Posted: October 14, 2009 at 7:22 PM
I saw your Caravan project awhile back, are you on RCC as well? Great idea! I have a Caravan box, I agree, it is light. If you find a reliable source for the terminals, please pass it on. I don't have a Car Quest in the area and I couldn't find the part numbers mentioned above on their site. This would make an excellent winter project, I have my fans ready to go and a set of lights to put on...
Posted By: dadtruck
Date Posted: October 15, 2009 at 4:01 PM
Yes , I am also setting up to use the instrument cluster out of a 90 D-150 in my 83,, got some good info from Ramchargers Central on how the VSS is wired in. The folks at the local Carquest are tracking down their terminal catalog,, they show the parts listed above in their computer system, but no photo, I'll post what I find out. ------------- DadTruck
Posted By: 1043
Date Posted: October 15, 2009 at 4:18 PM
Thanks, I really appreciate it. I just put a 1993 cluster in my 85, I know the VSS post you are refering to, very helpful.
Posted By: dadtruck
Date Posted: October 16, 2009 at 4:44 PM
found another interesting site almost dedicated to terminals https://www.rowand.net/Shop/Tech/AutomotiveElectricalConnectors.htm ------------- DadTruck
Posted By: 1043
Date Posted: October 26, 2009 at 9:39 AM
I used alot of this guys info when I did my HEI conversion, he has alot of good info. Did you notice that he had hardly any info on the Chrysler terminals. I was thinking that it might be easier to use a more popular relay box, maybe something from a GM or Ford vehicle, it seems like terminals for these vehicles are easy to locate and a dime a dozen. I'll be doing a megasquirt later this year and adding several other accessories so a good relay box with easy to locate terminals would be a huge asset.
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