wiper motor

Hi guys I have 3 wiper motors that I need to work out the wiring on, 2 I have sorted out the low/high speeds and the park but one for a later car has 2 Resistors?? on the main plug and I can't work out the park feature on it...
I guess that it uses a relay with it?

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I use to be confused but now I'm not so sure:)

June 1996 VS Commodore Series II (Australia)

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I use to be confused but now I'm not so sure:)

mag63] wrote:

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June 1996 VS Commodore Series II (Australia)

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Could be the same as The VE Commodore was previously exported to the US as a Pontiac G8 with V6 and V8 engine options.

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If you mean those blue discs, they are probably varistors or tranzorbs or capacitors or similar; across the lines (to ground) to limit spikes.

The wiring should the same or similar...
(Usually +12V; gnd for slow, gnd for fast; gnd (for park), and ...???... too late!)

Or ground, constant ign. switched 12V+ (park), 1 wire for first speed, second for higher speed, both at 12V+, switched from the stalk

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.

If they use Opel wiring, brown will be the ground and the ign. wire will be black, possibly with a trace colour.

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Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.

oldspark wrote:

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If you mean those blue discs, they are probably varistors or tranzorbs or capacitors or similar; across the lines (to ground) to limit spikes.

The wiring should the same or similar...
(Usually +12V; gnd for slow, gnd for fast; gnd (for park), and ...???... too late!)

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oldspark a fellow Aussie Why don't we have a site like this one?
Thanks for the reply, wiring yes seems to be the same but the park runs a very very short time compared to the other 2..

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howie ll wrote:

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If they use Opel wiring, brown will be the ground and the ign. wire will be black, possibly with a trace colour.

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Thanks howie for both replies I will test that tomorrow (midnight here) and heading for bed, will report my findings....

Cheers guys

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In answer to last last question, Oz only has one Oldspark, the rest of the time we're telling sheep shagging Kiwis how to fit stuff in their Ford Angulars and Austin Aggros.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.

mag63] wrote:

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ldspark a fellow Aussie Why don't we have a site like this one?

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Maybe we do, but I won't be there - I stopped contributing to Aussie forums years ago.
And from colleagues' recent examples, I still won't. (They stopped too!    )


Aussie forums were invented to keep Aussie richard craniums off international forums.
Civilised Aussies like us (that prefer the darker South Australian sheep) do well and appear welcome on non-Aussie forums.

Baaa!


EPILOGUE: Yes - I'd rather support my own, but there are too many vested interests (commercial or darpick harpeads) protecting their own.



PS - Sorry about the bum steer (or ra-aa-am) with "gnd" connections...
And my esteemed learned colleague and friend Howard is - IMO - quite entitled to have a go at our Kiwi neighbours, and us for that matter - especially me! And yes - I say that despite his apparent abode... he has a fine understanding of matters including cultural. Indeed, even we Antipodeans would be proud....
[Shut-up Howard! I'm defending you, not praising you! mag63 probably understands...]

PPS - my mate has a VS that I could check.... maybe... if I get to see him....

All I can say Peter is thank goodness the moderators aren't into Aussie and UK slang. Got away with a word rhyming with banker for years.

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Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.

Rhyming slang? Wot - ya think I'm cookney?

I use filter defeating expressions like full names (Richard Head) else dinkydi local spelling alternatives (dinky-di has the same Chinese root as "fair dinkum" - probably the 2nd most popular Australian term (Yes - it's Chinese!). [FTR - root as in source, not root!]

And as a first, I wrote the old "insert arp before sounded vowel" verbal code.
Most are just puns like cow dung instead of bullsh.


If ever I do offend, the I sincerely apologise.
Alas profanity is something that varies greatly between cultures. (In Australia, to be told "you mustard!" (in the RIGHT way) is a compliment!)

However I think the censoring of female canines is going a bit far...
But I'm also an egalitarian, therefore I reckon "dog" should also be censored - or is sexism on this site acceptable?


As usual, I can bank on You Howard.
I never considered being a banker.... (Hmmm - a banker IS an insult here. But a Quaker (Shaker) isn't.)

Nah Pete, I'm just being childish using local slang to get past the moderators, I believe you are 3/2 ahead at the moment, did you like my (friendly) Kiwi dig?
By the way it isn't cookney any more, it's "estuary English" as in Thames estuary, nasal London with West Indian, Yiddish, Afro-American, Hindu bits thrown in.
Arp? that's a girl's language, incidentally I hate using the female dog, or a word rhyming with hunt.
My older sister still visibly shiver's if you use the "f" word in front of her.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.

Estuary English - I love it! Sounds like some riff-raff get down there - those of the old tribes etc. Yep - sounds like I'd love that too! Great cuisine I'd presume?

Sorry about the cookney - what next, Estruarian English?
Speaking & writing of missing c's, that old fox hunt accompaniment has become a rather fowl expression. I avoid it for egalitarian reasons - plus your reason of course.

I once wrote hereon how I was female canine-ing about something. (That was how I found out.) I use it in a verbal sense, not as a (improper) noun. I use it to describe my whinging - I'm not sure I'd use it to describe others' whinging though....
(Oh dear, Antipodean grammar skills now showing... somewhere...)


But one thing I like - our laws do not question whether offense should have been taken. The point is, it was.
Hence I bow to any authority that points out (my) offensive behavior. (At least I try - I may clarify misunderstandings, and I can't rule out getting whizzed off...)
Then again, one forum claimed members were offended that two contributors were arguing (or discussing?) about a tech issue. I found that strange, but also confident that that would not fall under our Offenses Act (Legal pun/ambiguity not unintended!).


And speaking of criminal acts - hijacking other's (mag63's) threads!
Though if I may be so brash, I suspect mag63 doesn't mind - and may even enjoy....
(Aussies are great aren't they. So easy going. Not like me at all!)   


Funny.... On my way home I saw a VS Commodore and considered running it off the road. (My patience for solutions may not match that of OP/questioner. Or is it an over-eagerness issue?)
Enuff criminality from me!

A VS solution....


PS - "Friendly" Kiwi digs? No such thing - it is WAR across the old Tasman ditch! I just hope the Kiwis show some mercy!
LOL! Digs can be sensitive, buy friendly digs should be acceptable an tolerable - especially in return!
IMHO - the Kiwi's have nothing to be sensitive over. Their talent, skills, quality... where do I start?
It's those bluddy Wassies that are the problem (West Aussies). (Maybe it's just the further you get from Melbourne, the better things get!)

Fine but it's just that we have this image over here in Pom land of an NZ with an England in the 1950s with the cars to go with that scenario, Hillman Hunters etc.
I wouldn't pick a fight though with their rugby players.
Mind you who'd want to have been in N.E. Australia in recent months.
2 non-PC comments for you, you probably no the first.
Where do intelligent Australians come from....New Zealand.
What do you call an Scouser (Liverpudlian) in a suit?....The Defendant.


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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.

howie ll wrote:

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In answer to last last question, Oz only has one Oldspark, the rest of the time we're telling sheep shagging Kiwis how to fit stuff in their Ford Angulars and Austin Aggros.

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Kiwis

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howie ll wrote:

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Or ground, constant ign. switched 12V+ (park), 1 wire for first speed, second for higher speed, both at 12V+, switched from the stalk

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Spot on the money with this one howie

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Pic of VS wiper motor's plug/Brown 12V, Red low 12v, Blue high 12v, Black earth and yellow park 12v...

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OK for your future reference, at the wiper motor you will generally have the following....
12Volt ignition which feeds the "parking the blades" part when you turn off.
Speed one going through a resistor*.
Speed two going directly to the motor.*
* Speed one goes through the resistor and slows the motor, speed two gives it 12 volts so it runs faster.
Intermittent is usually applied via a chip controlled timer such that speed one instead of working constantly gets its voltage between once per second to once per minute.
Sometimes the feeds at the stalks are negative, e.g. Hondas and VWs this goes either directly to the motor which has a constant feed, i.e. earth or ground switching which is what Oldspark was telling you or in the case of VWs goes to a processor converting the neg switching two pos. and reducing the voltage instead of using a resistor at the wiper motor, more efficient and more expensive.
Some vehicles have a third speed but this is simply adding another resistor etc.
Ever have a train set wit ha speed controller or a Scalextric as a kid? It's the same principle.
A third speed as on some

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.

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I use to be confused but now I'm not so sure:)

mag63] wrote:

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Pic of VS wiper motor's plug/Brown 12V, Red low 12v, Blue high 12v, Black earth and the yellow park terminal has 12volts coming out of it until the wiper parks...

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Thanks guys and I need that edit button

Also don't mind if you do hijack my thread

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Ok, I'm back....

Dja think I'm having luck? Off to client. Manage the carpark (south-eastern freeway and most things before that). On time schedule wise then clank - driver's wiper blade off the arm onto bonnet. Stop, move passenger are to driver side. Mental note - SuperGlue's 3 months must be up; re-glue blade assembly to arm tonite.

Leave client 3 hours later (10pm). Why not take up metal-mate's invitation to a gig? Yeah - only adds 20km to the 50 minute trip.
10 minutes from gig. Hit a bad bump. Funny - why did my blue-LED voltmeter go out? Stop for red lights (I'm in a good mood). Why did car stall? Okay - what blew the meters & charging fuse.

Pull over and blow about eight 15A & other fuses. Stuff it - tape voltmeter & carby solenoid bullets to 2 spare +12V spades. I'm off!

2 beers, 2 hours, and feel 2 psst at gig.
Retire to car. Raining. Wipers, I mean - wiper on. No on. No wipe.
Dead fuse is meters & wiper circuit. Burn another 2x15A fuses, and another jumper lead (alligator clips).
Get home with no wiper.

I start tomor... today at 7am and might finish 10pm.
Forecast - "clearing shower".
I bet it's "flood clearing".
We SEasterners have had floods too!

Our former-former Prime Minister should undo his pray for rain.
And his curse on my vehicle.

01:50. Bed time!