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Poor Bass response

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Printed Date: May 15, 2025 at 8:46 PM


Topic: Poor Bass response

Posted By: sevenprunes
Subject: Poor Bass response
Date Posted: March 26, 2002 at 6:09 AM

I have a 96 grand marquis that has 4 12's , in the right sized boxes, is powered by 2 1200 watt audiobahn amps, has 2 farad caps for each amp,is wired with 0 ga, directly from two optima yellow tops, and sounds like crap, the speakers are wired with the right phasing and the amps see a 2 ohm load. the cone movement seems ok but the bass doesn't hit. Does the volume of the car affect the bass. the bass goes low, down to about 18hz but I would thinj that there would be a lot more hit, Any ideas? 



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Posted By: the12volt
Date Posted: March 26, 2002 at 9:32 AM

HI sevenprunes, first try disconnecting all woofers then reconnecting one woofer at a time to verify that each is physically in phase. Just because they are electrically in phase doesn't guarantee that they are physically in phase. Also check your crossover point. It may be that it's set too low or too high. Yes, the volume of the car does affect the sound but shouldn't make it as bad as you described unless the remaining volume is extremely low. Placement is another possibility, but you didn't tell us where and how you mounted your enclosures.

Let us know how you make out.

the12volt





Posted By: the12volt
Date Posted: March 26, 2002 at 9:48 AM

One other thing worth a shot if all else has failed.... you said the amplifiers see a 2 ohm load. While the amplifiers may be very stable at 2 ohms, it may sound much better if they wired to see a 4 or 8 ohm load. Often running an amplifier at a lower impedance will dramatically diminish the amplifier's performance and overall sound quality.

the12volt





Posted By: NyxBass
Date Posted: March 26, 2002 at 7:38 PM

I would have a look at crossover points...often, the real kick of a bass hit is as high as 200 hz. A good sub may sound like crap that high. If the rest of your system (Esp. Midbass). If your running the mids/highs a lot lower than your subs, it can almost make it sound like it has no punch.

One other thing - It may behoove you to try a subsonic filter (Maybe onlyn on 2 of the 4). It could be that hitting the extreme low fequencies (18 hz is really, really low) is washing out the punch. To hit a sound that low, the cone has to move pretty far and pretty  slowly (relative to other speakers). It may be that the cone can't move fast enough at the attack to make a good punch. Maybe try crossing two subs at 0-(whatever you're at now) and two at 20-180 (tune the upper point by ear). If you have a lot of music with bass down below 20 hz, the cones may be doing a whole lot of movement to produce, say, 12 hz, where you can't even hear it. If you cut those, it could give you seriously better response (dB wise and punch wise).

/NyxBass 






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