Remote Start w/Aladdin
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Topic: Remote Start w/Aladdin
Posted By: ruzzmon
Subject: Remote Start w/Aladdin
Date Posted: July 31, 2002 at 1:29 PM
Hi,
I have a manual 94 Acura Integra LS and the Aladdin a-2000 alarm that I installed. Everything works fine so far except the remote start. I can do quick stops, go into the remote start sequence (engines stays on until you arm the car), etc.
I wired in the start assist wire for the clutch (since I have to depress the clutch before the car will start normally). Even if I go through the remote start sequence, arm it, and stay in the car, push the E button then hold the clutch in with my foot, it still doesn't start. It tries a couple times (I can hear a relay clicking), but then it chirps twice when it fails.
I've spent a while trying to figure this out -> if anyone can help me I would appreciate it.
Replies:
Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: August 01, 2002 at 12:22 AM
I see that you missed out the fact that you didn't engage the parking brake ?!? Page 11 at the top of the page ..... " The A-2000 checks to see that this is done everytime you turn off the vehicle " Also are the DIP switches in the correct positions ? ------------- Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: ruzzmon
Date Posted: August 01, 2002 at 12:46 PM
Thanks -
The parkingbrake is always engaged (by me ) whenever I park my car. I did read that in the manual, but how do I get the aladdin to see the parking brake?
You're not talking about the brake wire which should be wired to the brake pedal right? Because I did do that, and the brake pedal is required for programming so I know that works.
Actually, am I supposed to wire the brake pedal switch AND the parking brake switch in parallel? Maybe I should test this by holding the brake pedal down and clutch while I attempt a remote start.
razi
Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: August 02, 2002 at 8:27 AM
Also, did you hook up the PINK wire to the BLUE P6 harness for the ACC ?? This PINK wire has to see that the ACC is engaged other wise the system will not work or will run for 10 seconds or less and then automatically shut off. ------------- Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: ruzzmon
Date Posted: August 04, 2002 at 4:30 PM
Thanks, Still doesn't work. Apparently I had forgotten to wire the blue wire (since I thought I don't need it), but now it is wired https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/detail.asp?info=alarm&year=1994&make=Acura&model=Integra&ID=12&type=Alarm P6 Blue is now wired to Accessory (Yellow) with Pink now spliced into blue. Before, the Yellow on the car was not wired at all. I had a different input wire for pink before that seemed to work. Any other suggestions??? thanks
Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: August 05, 2002 at 7:17 AM
Try this........... cut the BROWN loop on the side of the unit ( you will need to reconnect this wire for a manual vehicle ) and try to start the car without going through the sequence of exiting the car, pressing the brake, blah, blah, blah......... If all connections are correct, the caar should start. If it does, then it's a sequence problem that you have and you may not be going through the proper sequence of exiting the car. Post your results. ------------- Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: ruzzmon
Date Posted: August 06, 2002 at 12:11 PM
This is a repost...just in case the first one shows up somehow... I have one more guess at the source of the problem: the starter kill relay and wiring it... If I wired the starter kill relay such that it was the last thing on the ignition circuit connected to the starter motor, then whenever the Aladdin is armed, the starter kill relay is disabled (ignition circuit is open and incomplete), as it should. This also means that whenever I attempt a remote start, the starter kill relay is still disabled, while the Aladdin Starter Outputs are sending a signal to the starter, but the signal never gets there because the circuit is still open (from the relay). Is this possible? Is this how the aladdin functions? Is this how remote starts with starter kills work in general? I don't know if the aladdin closes the starter kill relay, thereby enabling the starter to start when a signal is given, or does it stay disabled? Sorry if thats a bit confusing, and thanks for your help. I can't test this just yet, maybe by tomorrow. I haven't tested the 'psuedo - auto' mode yet, I would rather try this first (in case that may void my warranty).
Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: August 06, 2002 at 2:09 PM
Not confusing at all. I think you may be a little confused on the wiring of a starter disable + remote starter. The scenario that you outlined above would hold true if you were to connect the strter output wire from the RS to the keyside of the disable relay....but your not. You need to connect the starter wire on the motor side of the relay so that the RS bypasses the disable relay for RS operations. Hope this clarifies this for you and if it does not then I can email you a diagram of this circuit. ------------- Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: ruzzmon
Date Posted: August 06, 2002 at 2:33 PM
Actually,
Thats exactly what I think I did: I wired the starter output (from aladdin) to keyside of the relay output. Which means this (I think):
---------Aladdin Starter Output--------
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Starter Kill Relay Key (for regular start)
(Keyside Wire)
so if i did this it wouldn't work right????
thanks
Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: August 06, 2002 at 6:06 PM
No.... No.... you misread my post: true if you were to connect the strter output wire from the RS to the keyside of the disable relay....but your not. You need to hook up the STARTER wire from the Aladdin to the MOTOR SIDE of the starter relay. Your pictures shows that the starter wire connects in the middle, I'm not sure if that is what you wanted to show me. ------------- Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: ruzzmon
Date Posted: August 07, 2002 at 4:56 PM
Okay, here's what I tried:
On the starter kill relay, if i got the key side and starter motor side wrong, all I would need to do is flip the two wires, right?
So what I did was I took the BLACK/ White (on car) wire, which was connected to the red wire (center plug of the relay supplied by aladdin) and reconnected it to the OTHER end of the BLACK/ White wire (which is supposed to be cut). The wire that was on the OTHER BLACK/ white wire (which was a white wire on the relay) was reconnected to where the red wire was originally connected. This essentially reverses the two wires such that this happens (on the starter wire):
Key Side----- Starter Kill-----Aladdin RS Out----Starter Motor
Jeff, what I was trying to show you was an incorrect install -> something that I did. The above picture, in this post, should be correct, right? Also, how can you tell that I wired it correctly?
Is it possible that the internal starter relay is fried? Can I check the output of the aladdin remote start with a voltmeter? Am I looking for +12V?
thanks for any other help -> it STILL doesn't work...
Posted By: ruzzmon
Date Posted: August 10, 2002 at 3:22 PM
Finally, it WORKS!!! The aladdin is now fully functional... It appears as though I made a stupid mistake -> It was as simple as using the wrong wire. Apparently on these cars, there are TWO BLACK/ White Wires of the exact same gauge wire - One is for the START wire, and the other is for who knows what... All I had to do was rewire for the correct cable and now it works. I found it when I was taking the steering column plastic covers apart. Thanks for all your help. On a side note - anyone who owns an Aladdin Alarm notice a clicking or ticking sound? I'm just wondering what that may be...
Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: August 10, 2002 at 11:21 PM
The ticking noise that your hearing is the internal timer for the clock. The Aladdina-2000 has a built in timer for the programmed remote start and that's what your hearing.... it's normal. ------------- Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: accordfreak
Date Posted: September 23, 2002 at 4:52 PM
do you guys know how to connect an aftermarket turbo timer instead of using the aladdin turbo timer and have remote start to work with it????
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