How to disable a steering wheel lock?
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Topic: How to disable a steering wheel lock?
Posted By: proinstall
Subject: How to disable a steering wheel lock?
Date Posted: January 20, 2004 at 9:05 PM
WITHOUT USING A CROWBAR!! This is my daily driver.. so I don't want to tear my dash apart with a crowbar trying to break my steering wheel lock.. does anyone know where the lock is? and how I can disable it?
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Posted By: proinstall
Date Posted: January 20, 2004 at 9:16 PM
They key releases it just fine.. but thats not my reasoning for doing it.. its more for like a demo type thing.. The vehicle is a S2000
Posted By: proinstall
Date Posted: January 20, 2004 at 9:47 PM
Not of importance.. sorry I don't want to post too much information about me and my doings.. I'm not a thief by any means.. infact I sell and install alarms.. so quite the opposite.. I just don't want anyone to figure out where to find a S2000 with no steering wheel lock..
Posted By: Teken
Date Posted: January 20, 2004 at 11:27 PM
proinstall wrote:
Not of importance..
Actually it is. And, you should know better than to ask such a Q in an open forum.
proinstall wrote:
sorry I don't want to post too much information about me and my doings..
I would suggest that you ask someone off line, meaning in person.
ie. A mechanic
proinstall wrote:
I'm not a thief by any means..
If I recieved a dollar every time I heard that phrase, I could have retired long ago.
There is no need to state the obvious, but once again you are asking in the wrong forum.
As I am a pro theif, so what of it??? I get paid to steal every week-end.
And??
proinstall wrote:
infact I sell and install alarms..
That really doesn't amount to much here. Because, then you would have some understanding as to what is holding the counter lock in place.
It is a simple pin.
Regards
EVIL Teken . . .
Posted By: Teken
Date Posted: January 20, 2004 at 11:43 PM
Murph] wrote:
t's Funny how many installers don't understand the inner workings of a car.
I think what people fail to realize is why the counter lock is there.
The concept originally was *placed* / *installed* so as the wheel could be locked in place. So in an incline, or decline the driver would point the inner wheel toward the curb, in an event of a transmission / brake failure.
The vehicle upon moving would hit the curb, and not role down the hill onto oncoming traffic.
Later in the years it was touted as a security measure. We all know what effect that has had on theives.
0 = zero = nada = zip
The only mass production vehicle todate which cannot be physically broken off with bare hands is a current Mercedes.
Reason being is that they use 8-12 titanium pins to lock the wheel in place. A 400 lbs man and a very long breaker bar still would not be able to break the wheel loose from its locked position.
If the assembly were to break, the entire column would come with it, that would obviously negate the reason and the option to drive.
Wouldn't it . . .
Regards
EVIL Teken . . .
Posted By: mobiletoys2002
Date Posted: January 20, 2004 at 11:50 PM
Good thing about newer mercedes is even if they broke the wheel, Where they gonna go without being able to start the car due to the smart key!!
Posted By: Teken
Date Posted: January 20, 2004 at 11:55 PM
mobiletoys2002 wrote:
Good thing about newer mercedes is even if they broke the wheel, Where they gonna go without being able to start the car due to the smart key!!
For the average thief, that would be impossible. Either a flat bed or tow truck would have to be employed.
In my case, we have the the equipment to make the keys for Mercedes . . . 
No need to wait for a copy from Germany ! LOL
Posted By: mobiletoys2002
Date Posted: January 20, 2004 at 11:59 PM
Lucky you  I wish i had that ,I would make so much more money.
Posted By: proinstall
Date Posted: January 21, 2004 at 1:57 AM
I don't see why some of you get all riled up.. its my own car.. if you want pictures of it with whatever else in the picture of the car in my driveway for proof just ask.. I don't really see when the knowledge of how a steering wheel lock comes into play when installing alarms.. so I don't see why I should know that.. And If I knew somebody I could ask in person that I think would have any idea about something like that I would ask.. but I'm posting online as there is nowhere else to turn..
Posted By: auex
Date Posted: January 21, 2004 at 8:25 AM
I pretty much agree with everyone else on this one. If it is your own car then go buy a Chilton's or a Helms and read it. The manuals will tell you what you want to do.
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Posted By: Teken
Date Posted: January 21, 2004 at 4:53 PM
proinstall wrote:
I don't see why some of you get all riled up..
Speaking only for myself. I personaly dont get bent out of shape over question such as yours. But, it does make me pause, and really think WHY??? proinstall wrote:
I don't really see when the knowledge of how a steering wheel lock comes into play when installing alarms..
Your initial reply was that it was of no concern of anyones, because you are fear full of others knowing your vehicle will be an easier target. So, I should not have to explain to you, that there IS alot of SOB's and other low lifes out there who are reading this forum just to learn, what your are asking now. proinstall wrote:
And If I knew somebody I could ask in person that I think would have any idea about something like that I would ask.. but I'm posting online as there is nowhere else to turn..
If you were even remotely serious about learning how it worked, and how it can be removed. You would have simply went down to any dealership and ask any of the mechanics. They would have taken 60 seconds to show you, were, and how it is accomplished. In the end, the counter lock does serve a important purpose. That being, to enable the steering wheel from being moved upon impact to the curb. Which will save you, and others financial hardship and loss of life. Is having that ability to demo a vehicle that important to you, that safety is just an annoyance??? There is no valid reason you can offer, that would change my opinion on that. Regards EVIL Teken . . .
Posted By: mobiletoys2002
Date Posted: January 21, 2004 at 5:08 PM
yeah what he said!!!
Posted By: forbidden
Date Posted: January 21, 2004 at 6:32 PM
Personally I don't believe a word this dude has stated so far, matter of fact "Going in a S2000.. that a bunch of people think I don't own  ... but thats another thread.." and followed by "All the car security I do I never really get into the car audio.. but the problem is 55-145mph with the top down I cant hear the stock stereo.. so I'm upgrading.. :P" Now if you had this car why would you not have asked the dealer this or "but I'm posting online as there is nowhere else to turn.." I guess that a Honda dealer is nowhere near him to ask this same question. ------------- Top Secret, I can tell you but then my wife will kill me.
Posted By: proinstall
Date Posted: January 21, 2004 at 7:37 PM
Bahahaaha.. well I'm not sure how it works up in Canada.. but the idiots that work at honda dealerships around here are people that well.. a) will never touch my car when it comes to anything at all ever again (after I got my car I had some minor tranny issues there is a TSB out for the 5th gear synchro as well as the clutch on my year, they tore down and rebuilt the tranny 4 times before they could get it working again).. b) wouldn't know a oil drain plug from a airbag harness.. and c) they would rather not take the time to answer such a question.. it isnt their job.. There are 2 honda dealerships in the area.. yet come spring when I'll be getting the rear end replaced (because of a clicking noise that was there since i got it) I'll be making a 2.5 hour drive to a 'more qualified honda dealership' What part exactly do you not believe? I'm not into car audio? my S2000 is aero limited to 145 mph with the top down? or that you just can't plain hear music at 55-145 mph? All you have to do is ask and I'll gladly answer.. but you don't need to assume.. And.. if you want a ride.. email me or find me on aim.. during the drive I may even pull out my title
Posted By: forbidden
Date Posted: January 21, 2004 at 7:54 PM
Right, so how do you know about sound at 145 mph? Practice driving like an idiot do we? I know all about sound as it relates to open air vehicles, I also know about driving the speed limit. As far as your title, I can think of numerous ones for you, but I can't post them here. I know for sure that if I had your car and went into any Honda dealership I could get the answer that I needed. Your claims are flawed. If Honda has factory trained technicians, that have the same tools and tech support available to them country wide, one can find an answer at any dealership. Granted that a mechanic is the one working on the car and like audio there is good and bad mechanics, maybe a mechanic with more experience is what you should have seeked out. I'm not interested in a ride from someone who seems to know so little about things in general and can make such broad claims. Experience comes with time, which my friend has now run out for you. ------------- Top Secret, I can tell you but then my wife will kill me.
Posted By: proinstall
Date Posted: January 21, 2004 at 8:17 PM
forbidden wrote:
Right, so how do you know about sound at 145 mph? Practice driving like an idiot do we? I know all about sound as it relates to open air vehicles, I also know about driving the speed limit. As far as your title, I can think of numerous ones for you, but I can't post them here. I know for sure that if I had your car and went into any Honda dealership I could get the answer that I needed. Your claims are flawed. If Honda has factory trained technicians, that have the same tools and tech support available to them country wide, one can find an answer at any dealership. Granted that a mechanic is the one working on the car and like audio there is good and bad mechanics, maybe a mechanic with more experience is what you should have seeked out. I'm not interested in a ride from someone who seems to know so little about things in general and can make such broad claims. Experience comes with time, which my friend has now run out for you.
Ok.. now I'm still not sure why you have a stick up your ass.. or what your problem is with me.. but anywho.. Yes.. I have driven with the top down at 145mph when I tested the top speed in my car.. once.. I also autocross as much as possible during season and I like to think I have a fair amount of control over the vehicle.. And yes.. the mechanic that worked on my transmission was the 'most experienced' there as I was told.. I made sure of this when I brought the car in.. it still took him 4 tries.. if it took me 4 tries to put a rem start in a car the business would go elsewhere..  Still not sure what you don't believe.. hmm..how bout some pictures and video.. yes.. at this point I don't really care anymore....
If you know the local area you can figure out where this picture is.. https://www.buffalo.edu/~tjf22/IMG_0250.JPG This one was actually down in North Carolina on the outerbanks on a roadtrip for spring break last year.. https://www.buffalo.edu/~tjf22/IMG_0092.JPG This one is in my garage.. just cleaning it up for next season.. https://www.buffalo.edu/~tjf22/logo/mycar.JPG Hell.. heres even a pretty video of the digital dash..  https://www.buffalo.edu/~tjf22/digitaldash.MPG and if you want pictures of anything specific let me know..
Posted By: proinstall
Date Posted: January 21, 2004 at 8:18 PM
hmm.. on some of those pictures the link doesnt have the .JPG at the end.. so you may have to copy paste..
Posted By: forbidden
Date Posted: January 21, 2004 at 8:26 PM
Just wondering why you've been booted around from forum to forum? Asking questions that lead people to believe other things is also not in anyones best interest as well. This is not a pissing contest forum or a fight club, maybe I'm the only one who has spoken up about your posts and their content.
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Top Secret, I can tell you but then my wife will kill me.
Posted By: proinstall
Date Posted: January 21, 2004 at 8:30 PM
I've been booted around from forum to forum.. not sure what you mean? and true.. posting such a thing on a public forum may not be in the best interest for the rest of the world.. but somebody could have easily PM'd me the information..
Posted By: Teken
Date Posted: January 21, 2004 at 10:40 PM
*Booming Moderator Voice*
The question was asked . . . The answer(s) were given . . . And clearly, there are those who still
do not comprehend the basics of security & road safety for others.
The End . . .
Posted By: mikeshonda750
Date Posted: January 22, 2004 at 6:10 PM
Man, that was some good reading! Seriously, if your going to ask a stupid question and expect an honest answer head over to i'm_an_idiot.com and post there. So you don't want anyone to know your idea... lemme guess (if its not so they know how easy it is to steal your car), your going to market some kind of steering colum cover for that car that has no key hole in it.. all smooth and you have a push button to start it..... heh yeah ~~ WHO CARES? You want to disable a safety feature from your vehicle ~~ FANTASTIC! Teken told you how toooo!! No wonder why the dealership doesent like you. I bet your the type of customer who calls every 4.2seconds wanting a progress update on your vehicle... the type that cannot possibily stick your head up the mechanics ass any further. Ok guys.. in all seriousness... im going to call FORD up and ask them if they will send me procedures for removing their Anti-Tamper bolts from the seatbelts.... i dont want them in there anymore... ya know.. i also want to disable the light in the dash for them...the dam seatbelt light stays on all the time.. and that isnt any good when your trying to impress the ladies!!! hahahahah -------------
Posted By: auex
Date Posted: January 22, 2004 at 6:21 PM
Ricer. Oh, and learn to post links.
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Certified Security Specialist
Always check info with a digital multimeter.
I promise to be good.
Tell Darwin I sent you.
I've been sick lately, sorry I won't be on much.
Posted By: mikeshonda750
Date Posted: January 22, 2004 at 7:25 PM
If your reffering to my post, i do know how to post links~ Thanks ~ Regardless it would have taken him to a bad page.
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Posted By: auex
Date Posted: January 22, 2004 at 8:46 PM
Not referring to you mike, reffering to him. By the way, I thought that federal law required speed limiting devices in all vehicles, to cut power at or below 120 mph.
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Certified Security Specialist
Always check info with a digital multimeter.
I promise to be good.
Tell Darwin I sent you.
I've been sick lately, sorry I won't be on much.
Posted By: auex
Date Posted: January 22, 2004 at 8:53 PM
As far as a link goes, using this one. It is funny as hell, especially at 145 mph with the top down. ------------- Certified Security Specialist
Always check info with a digital multimeter.
I promise to be good.
Tell Darwin I sent you.
I've been sick lately, sorry I won't be on much.
Posted By: mikeshonda750
Date Posted: January 22, 2004 at 9:06 PM
Good point Auex, I know all the stock vehicles from the big 3 cut out between 100 and 120.. hell even the lightning cuts out..
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Posted By: mikeshonda750
Date Posted: January 22, 2004 at 10:03 PM
Forgot to mention there are exceptions to the rule: Viper being one of them. Sorry.. but i had to stop that one before someone jumpped all over it
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