JL in competion?
Printed From: the12volt.com
Forum Name: General Discussion
Forum Discription: General Mobile Electronics Questions and Answers
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=28921
Printed Date: May 15, 2024 at 11:09 PM
Topic: JL in competion?
Posted By: Ravendarat
Subject: JL in competion?
Date Posted: March 23, 2004 at 4:03 PM
So people talk about JL all the time and most people seem to place them in the same graces as other elite car audio manufactures. My question is, when it comes to the SPL circut, does JL put out a competive vehicle. I was sitting here thinking about It and I cant recall ever seeing a JL car win anything. I can think of Rockford, Kicker, MTX and even the old Gates PPI vehicles but I cant recall JL ever having a real impressive car. Any one know of one?
Replies:
Posted By: MAXST
Date Posted: March 23, 2004 at 4:21 PM
JL had a Jetta with two W7 13 inch..or is it 13.5? anyway they have had one, but i havent seen any really recently.
-------------
I need quality equipment, feel free to donate.
Posted By: popkorn
Date Posted: March 23, 2004 at 10:55 PM
https://www.jlaudio.com/desktop_images/wallpaper.html << there is too wallpapers in there that show the GTI it looks pretty sweet but nothing to special compared to others from rockford and such, if you go the the main menu there is links to descriptions and such about it
Posted By: Hardcor audio
Date Posted: March 28, 2004 at 6:35 PM
I have seen the GTI up close, very nice install, sounds good, not for spl though. I have yet to see anyone that uses JL and actually hit any big numbers, there was some guy in florida who used the 15w3's and hit a big number, but someone said that the subs were modified, exactly how who knows, as far as those w7's if you ask me they are over priced for what you get, you can get other subs cheaper that will out perform the w7, i have installed tons of JL subs which none have impressed me,i have also installed the kicker L7 subs, again not very impressed, you are probably asking what kind of boxes did he use how much power, it really didnt matter we use all different set ups, they sounded good , but not an spl sub at all, and in my opinon not worth the $$$$.
Posted By: Dauber
Date Posted: March 30, 2004 at 5:10 PM
I've installed 1 L7 solobaric dual voice coil in the back of a Civic and hit 156 Db's so I really couldn't tell ya if you wanted to go more loud than that.
-------------
Kyle@Audio Obsession Sound
Posted By: Ravendarat
Date Posted: March 30, 2004 at 9:01 PM
I did the same kinda set up in a precidia, we used an old school crome 500a2 to a 15" L7 and I think we hit in the 155 to 156 range, but that was 2 1/2 years ago so I cant remember exactly what the number was but it was big. The reason why I asked this question is because, honestly, I have no faith in JL what so ever and was kinda wondering if anyone who was a serious competitor used JL. I very rarely ever see a DB Drag or IASCA winner using JL, in fact I cant remember ever seeing one. I am kinda wondering if there may be some other people out there that see JL more of a smoke and mirrors company. I mean before they came out with the W7 they had the same sub design and technology for like 10 years. Some may say, if its not broke dont fix it, but I say i saw enough of it break I didnt understand why they dont fix it.
Posted By: Dauber
Date Posted: April 06, 2004 at 8:01 PM
Well, one of my friends installed 4 12" JL W0 I think, in B2200 truck, with 2 Alpine 1507 and be is into some serious competing, I would say they hit pretty good considering I couldn't even sit in the truck when he was dragging it, I think he ended up hitting 162 I think, but I know it was pretty good. Not bad considering they were the low end JL subs, I couldn't imagine if he were to put W7 in there, probably blow his glass out!!
-------------
Kyle@Audio Obsession Sound
Posted By: Ravendarat
Date Posted: April 06, 2004 at 9:50 PM
I dont think a meter that is dialed in correctly is gonna show you a number anywhere near that high on 4 WO's, I dont care what amp or amps he has them on. I have seen cars around here using 2 15w6 in a wall hitting 140's with the same kinda power. 162 DB's on a good meter is very very hard to hit. I have only seen a couple vehicles do it. I know in Magazines you see it all the time but in real life that number is damn high. Also as far as not being able to sit in the vehicle when its playing, it depends on the person as some people have a much higher tollarance than others. I know people who get sick at 140 where as I havent found a car yet that I cant sit in. BTW thats not a challange for people to respond by saying that I could never sit in thier car when its playing because thats not the point I was making nor would I really care if I could or not anyways.
-------------
double-secret reverse-osmosis speaker-cone-induced high-level interference distortion, Its a killer
Posted By: kickerstang
Date Posted: April 12, 2004 at 4:50 PM
first of all JL is more focused into SQ, they are probably one of the cleanest sounding subs around, very effecient too. also, it is highly possible to post a 162 with 4 12W0'S. obviously some of you don't know too much about tuning frequencies and air space. the shop i work at has an extended cab F150 with 3 10W3's doing a 160 flat. and that's stock because the box is still below the windows. once you go above the back glass it becomes modified but the box is designed purely for SPL. JL has been in the game for a long time and they still remain one of the best around. i guarantee you i could built a box for 2 JL12W3's that you would think was 4 15's. it's not hard, it's all in tuning frequencies. i've made a 3 1/2" do a 172. granted it's not legal to do in an actual competition but its funny as hell. anything's possible, there's nothing that can't be done ------------- what!?!?! you want some??
Posted By: kickerstang
Date Posted: April 12, 2004 at 4:52 PM
also, if you look and professional competitors, people who have been doing it a long time, look at the sound quality portion, 75% of them use JL
-------------
what!?!?! you want some??
Posted By: Paradigm
Date Posted: April 13, 2004 at 3:55 PM
kickerstang wrote:
also, if you look and professional competitors, people who have been doing it a long time, look at the sound quality portion, 75% of them use JL
JL Audio is all about sound quality. With a good amount of SPL to go with it. For years, the W6 line was the reference sub line that almost all other subs were compared to, because it was just that good. Now a days JL Audio may not be the greatest or best, but they are still close enough to the upper echelon of audio manufacturers that you really can't go wrong with their gear. I was looking the other day for links to awards JL Audio has won over the years. I remember seeing in all the stereo mags how JL Audio had won so many awards at all the big competitions. But I wasn't able to find anything online in the limited amount of time that I spent looking. I'm sure someone could find something to sate your curiousity though  ------------- VEHICLE: 2002 GMC Sonoma ZR2
Alpine CDA-7940
AudioControl EQT x2
JL Audio 1000/1
JL Audio 10W6 (originals) x3
Kicker ZR120
Kicker ZR460
Polk GXR-6 x4
Polk GXR-4 x2
Posted By: Ravendarat
Date Posted: April 13, 2004 at 5:46 PM
Ok, I didnt think I would have to clearify this but apperently I was wrong. I dont think you are gonna hit 160's with 4 W0's LEGALY. I dont care what people can do when they cheat. Im sure I can crack 190 if I dont wanna do it legit. I am only interested in real numbers not bs.
-------------
double-secret reverse-osmosis speaker-cone-induced high-level interference distortion, Its a killer
Posted By: kickerstang
Date Posted: April 14, 2004 at 12:53 PM
if you could break 190 legally, illegaly, however the fu@k you wanted to do it i will give you $1 million dollars. do you know what the world record in outlaw SPL is in 1001-up(that's the highest class)? do you know who Mike Jones is? do you know what outlaw SPL is? outlaw SPL is legal on the dash, the world record is held by Mike Jones, he happens to be a friend of mine, and he is doing 175's. when the space shuttle takes off if you stood underneath it it would only be 172 db's. now if you think you can even approach what he is doing you are far more talented than most of the competitors that grace the professional car audio circuit today. the second loudest vehicle in the world is more that 1.5 db's lower, when you are getting that high 1.5 db's is a mountian to cross. the world record for illegal db is just slightly higher than mike jones' legal, i think it's like 177 or something not to much higher for illegal
-------------
what!?!?! you want some??
Posted By: Dauber
Date Posted: April 19, 2004 at 12:52 AM
Sorry Ravendarat, my friend with the 4 WO's actually hit 152, so sorry for the over-exageration, just making a point that JL's are not a bad sub to use, and maybe some of us have hearing left so we can't sit in vehicles with drowning bass that could blow your ear drums out. Geez, didn't know freedom of speach was a crime.
-------------
Kyle@Audio Obsession Sound
Posted By: Ravendarat
Date Posted: April 19, 2004 at 10:40 AM
What I meant was legit not legal. I wasnt talking about classifications or classes. You can play around with meters and use mics that arent calibrated properly If the mic isnt calibrated properly tou could see 190 to 200 pretty easy. There was a small town competion around here and they did just that. The mic wasnt calibrated properly to the system and I think the high car was like 188 or something stupid like that. I know that witha proper set up you cant hit that high, that was the point I was trying to get at. No need to appologize either because overexageration is something I have to deal with all the time. The only reason why I was sure it wasnt right was because I have seen 160 db cars and I knew he couldnt do it with 4 wo's.
-------------
double-secret reverse-osmosis speaker-cone-induced high-level interference distortion, Its a killer
|