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Ammeter installation

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Printed Date: April 28, 2024 at 6:29 AM


Topic: Ammeter installation

Posted By: robb420in323
Subject: Ammeter installation
Date Posted: July 14, 2004 at 1:01 PM

Can i just creat a loop with the unused portion of the fuse block in my stereo for an ammeter. or does it actually have to be inline with the amp??

Please help..

Thanks!



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Posted By: auex
Date Posted: July 14, 2004 at 4:09 PM
Must be in line.

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Posted By: robb420in323
Date Posted: July 16, 2004 at 8:35 PM

Why cant i just install it in a power wire loop created off the fuse block? WHat will happen?

If its inline wont it weaken the power wire strength.. the weakest link??



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Posted By: auex
Date Posted: July 16, 2004 at 9:08 PM
The only way to measure amperage is in-line. And yes it cause a loss. I don't really understand why people even want these.

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Posted By: robb420in323
Date Posted: July 17, 2004 at 6:56 PM

So we can tell how much Amps are Power Amps are drawing.
Indicates any improvment from Electrical System upgrades..

Good enough mr blind amp?



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Posted By: auex
Date Posted: July 18, 2004 at 12:06 AM
But why exactly, and specifically, do you need to know how many amps the amplifier is drawing? For most people this information is absolutely useless, just like driver sensitivity. Even if you had a need for this information, you still shouldn't need it all the time and would only used it for tuning information. Also, how does an ammeter tell you if electrical system upgrades help audio performance, the amplifier's current draw will be just about the same whether you alternator is putting out 85 amps or 300 amps. If the amplifier manufacturer is a decent then their spec sheet will tell you exactly how many amps it can draw.

Sorry, just don't understand the need for this on an amplifier.

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Always check info with a digital multimeter.
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Posted By: robb420in323
Date Posted: July 18, 2004 at 10:01 AM

Your right. I just picked it up for 6 bucks at CT.. 

But i dont want it inline, i want it monitoring the whole system in the trunk..

Theres 2 spots on the fuseblock  i can loop, cut the loop , put the meter in...

Are you telling me that theres no Amprage in a power wire connected to the batt at both ends??



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Posted By: backinblack_gp
Date Posted: July 21, 2004 at 8:28 PM
Look around for a digital ammeter that uses a shunt bar and sense leads.  It's a little safer than running inline...

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Posted By: robb420in323
Date Posted: September 21, 2004 at 8:07 PM
But theres no amperage in the unused portion of my Fuse Block???

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Posted By: Teken
Date Posted: September 21, 2004 at 10:47 PM
I hope you do realize that the current you will be measuring is dynamic, and not static.

If your intent was to measure the current output of the alternator, then that would be something worth doing.

But to monitor the amplifier, that isn't neccessary. As
backinblack_gp stated, you would be wise to install a digital ampere meter, which uses a shunt.

Having another high current transferring cable, will only cause you more grief.

Regards

EVIL Teken . . .




Posted By: placid warrior
Date Posted: November 19, 2004 at 8:12 PM
why not just test the wires when the stuff is running by haveing points that u can connect/disconnect the ammeter when u want.  that way u can see how much juice youre using and to keep the juice flow as high as possible u can just disconnect the ammeter....some amps come with built in ammeters.  I agree with Teken though, it would be worth measuring the alternater if u dont have an ammeter hooked up to that yet...thats more vital.




Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: November 19, 2004 at 8:45 PM
I'm not really sure how this thread got dragged back to the top, but I have heard a couple of people say to use the shunt method. This is the better way to do it, I don't even know WHAT this "loop" thing is you are talking about. Some of the better meter/shunt combos I have found, and coincidentally the ones I use, are from Datel. That's the link directly to the page for the digital meters, and this will get you right to the shunt resistors. This is to the meter pdf, for all of your technical information is there. Your meter version MUST be a high-side, isolated model, or, unless you have an isolated power supply in you car to power the meter itself, you'll blow it up! The model I went with was the DCA5-20PC-5-DC4-BS. This is the 50mV, 8 to 36 volt, isolated power, blue LED version. Not cheap, at 72.00, but it is useful.

Also, everybody seems to mention monitoring the output of your alternator, and this is smart... It is FAR more important to monitor your alternator output. It will allow you to know if your system is being overloaded. I did, and I am glad I did it this way. I can kkep a constant eye on my whaole car's current demands, and I know if I am getting close to the output capabilities of my alternator.

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