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Topic: West Coast Customs

Posted By: bdl666
Subject: West Coast Customs
Date Posted: September 26, 2004 at 6:21 PM

    What do you think about their installs on pimp my ryde?   Do you like what they do ?

  I get mad when people that have nothing to do with the industry say that they are the best at what they do. If you know anything about the industry you know that there are a lot of intallers that will put them to shame.




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Posted By: jeremyjerm
Date Posted: September 27, 2004 at 10:23 AM
some of the cars turn out pretty cool. they use alot of cool meterials. but im sure if mtv was payin for it then i could do betta!!!




Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: September 27, 2004 at 10:26 AM
I'm not too keen on their ideas with some of their installs. Most of the time it's pretty much bling, but no real use for the stuff they install.

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Posted By: carguy411
Date Posted: September 27, 2004 at 11:32 AM
there alright to much hooptie stuff for me. yhe thing that sucks is they take all these old $hit cars and they but some paint useless bodykits on them and usually sound systems that really arent high quality like xplode and cheap stuff...and after all this is done the engine in the car still barelyy runs.




Posted By: Ravendarat
Date Posted: September 27, 2004 at 12:31 PM
I bet you guys are just pissed because xibit hasnt show up to "Pimp Your Ride" yet! LOL posted_image I am just kidding. I think the work is probally ok, and you have to remember that since they are getting everything for free, they arent gonna start using focal and quart anytime soon. I had to laugh because in the one show they used Audiobahn and Xibit said something along the lines of "Thats what I got in my ride so you know its good" all I could think of is that some salesman did a damn good job of selling the gear because it sure didnt sell because of its merits. OK now its time to cue everyone who owns audiobahn to come on here and write back how thier stuff is the bomb and how the went to a competion and hit 150 db with their 2 subs running on 3600 watts of mind numbing power while their crome flaming baskets gleam in the sun as if to say look at me, I am not sh*t, in fact I am the opposite of sh*t, I do not suck at all. Whatever. WOW that was kinda more hostile than what I had intended :)

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Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: September 27, 2004 at 12:41 PM

Ravendarat wrote:

I bet you guys are just pissed because xibit hasnt show up to "Pimp Your Ride" yet! LOL posted_image I am just kidding. I think the work is probally ok, and you have to remember that since they are getting everything for free, they arent gonna start using focal and quart anytime soon. I had to laugh because in the one show they used Audiobahn and Xibit said something along the lines of "Thats what I got in my ride so you know its good" all I could think of is that some salesman did a damn good job of selling the gear because it sure didnt sell because of its merits. OK now its time to cue everyone who owns audiobahn to come on here and write back how thier stuff is the bomb and how the went to a competion and hit 150 db with their 2 subs running on 3600 watts of mind numbing power while their crome flaming baskets gleam in the sun as if to say look at me, I am not sh*t, in fact I am the opposite of sh*t, I do not suck at all. Whatever. WOW that was kinda more hostile than what I had intended :)

posted_image You the man !! You tell them who's Boss !



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Posted By: dxav
Date Posted: September 27, 2004 at 1:41 PM
It also helps to have like 16 people on the car all at once.....

And no budget.....

And one big plug for WCC (free advertising -- well paid for by MTV)

They do great work, and have fun. I am suprised that the brands they put in don't get more recognition.

I love hearing how the people on the show say they took a $1K car and put $25K into it. I am sure the $25K is at top MSRP, but not nearly what it costs them.... Car isn't worth that afterwards either.

Another thing they don't tell you is that not 24 hours after the car was completed, it has already been vandalized or stolen or wrecked!

My $.02...
DXAV




Posted By: Asmodeus
Date Posted: September 27, 2004 at 7:22 PM

I agree that if the shop I am in had an unlimited budget and enough people to fall in on a job and everyone know what they are doing and concentrate on what they do best and stay outa the other peoples way...I think I could turn out some really phat rides....

On a side note I do no like all the crap they install that is only for show...All the wasted monitors and crap...If its in my car I better be able to get full use outa it...I am a simpler person and do not like all that extra junk they throw in purely for show...

I like my installs simple looking yet complex and clean....I also try to get them to be as functional as possible..

And yes Audiobahn sucks balls....



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Posted By: boxmaker85
Date Posted: September 27, 2004 at 9:08 PM

I'll agree w/ everything everyone's said.  Yeah a gold '89 Mustang (or any other normal production car from 1989) is kinda.... uh "strange" for lack of better words.  But look at the name of the show  "Pimp my ride".  Not "take all this money and do good things to my car", like put in a full JL bass system w/ MB Quart components and a 11 inch touch-screen dvd player, then put on a custom cameleon paint job that is also radar/laser reading resistant (that s#%* is awsome).  But not everyone is as bright (or money efficient) as us guys here.  Oh well.  I'll just keep watching and sigh when I think of how much better I would spend that money.

BTW Audiobahn does suck.





Posted By: auex
Date Posted: September 27, 2004 at 9:24 PM
All I have to say is that I hope that thier 12V installer is playing it up for the camera. Other then that the stuff they do is pretty stupid, but what do you expect from a show on mtv?

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Posted By: hurtado_roberto
Date Posted: September 28, 2004 at 12:42 AM

Were do these kids come from?  Are they all from the LA area?  LA does have a high crime rate so if you do get your car "pimped" then the people that watch the show know exactly what you have and how to get it.  I have some security tweaks I've done to my system which will surely fustrate the novice or intermidiate car rober but if someone what's your system they will get it at all cost.

Isn't there a TV show were they upgrade for preformance on spike TV?  Imagine being on both shows. Now that would be awsome if it were free.  Imagine having  a corvette (that's even better).

With the amout of MSRP they put into them we can all build great cars.



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Posted By: stavy customs1
Date Posted: September 28, 2004 at 12:53 AM

I think your thinking of the other show "overhauled" on tlc not spike tv. I like it better than pimp my ride because the stuff that they do is more realistic dont get me wrong but i think i would rather have a new engine for a 89 maxima station wagon rather than have a honda civic body kit and a slide out dj tray in the back. On overhauled they actually replace engines and all that good stuff, i almost passed out when i saw them putting sony xplods in the back of one of the cars they did. i guess its better than audiobahn.



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Posted By: hurtado_roberto
Date Posted: September 28, 2004 at 1:35 AM

I was thinking of overhauled.  Wasn't there an episode on pimp my ride where the car was so mest up that they desided to give the kid a new Scion square mini-van.

Are Xplods really that bad.  Maybe that 's why my friends think my sound system isn't as good as the ones I've installed for my friends.  I've had these Xplods for the past 2 years and I've blown two pairs do to using a ported box without tunning it. I think I'll upgrade to P3 to hear the difference.



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Posted By: dxav
Date Posted: September 28, 2004 at 9:32 AM
True, I don't think you would ever see Dave Rivera or Chip Foose on MTV working on a vehicle.

Some of you are knocking particular brands. One of the key reasons an mobile audio company loses (some) credibility is going mainstream too quickly (Audiobahn is a good example, but RF is doing it now, too. And there are others....). Some manufacturers push so much product out at one time, that the defect rate goes up(more product in circulation, the more product can fail -- or succeed), but the ratio of satisfactory customer to unsatisfied customers actually increases. More product produced opens an opportunity for more sales -- especially to new customers. This is great for investors and a company's GPM.

Just something I thought to mention.

"When I get old enough, I'm gonna trade my bicycle for a really cool 'vette'."




Posted By: boxmaker85
Date Posted: September 28, 2004 at 11:24 AM
'Vette's are probably the best car out there w/ the best "bang for the buck".  Anyways, yeah they call the Sony "Xplodes" xplodes for a reason (get it yet?).  Their componenets are not bad for an upgrade from factory but thier subs are pittiful.  The best Overhaulin I've seen is where they take that woman's C2 vette (a 1967 i believe) and they pretty much have to totally replace the whole car.  It turned out to be probably the best looking car I've seen in a LONG time.




Posted By: dbdraggirl
Date Posted: September 29, 2004 at 9:20 AM
That show really erks me.. lol Pimp My Ride that is.. and no not because they won't pick me either.. did anyone happen to see the show where that "pimped" that guys older $hit box truck into... I don't even know what to call it, but they did the overkill with the flames everywhere and the ping pong table in the back!? wow.. thats all i could say and its was more of a what the f** wow than anything.. I am all with the guy who was talking about being practical.. If you can't use it, or it doesn't have a specific purpose then why.. I mean like custom fiberglassing and what not is really good looking and the systems in the bed of the trucks but.. a ping pong table?! wtf?

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Posted By: Chad7n7
Date Posted: October 01, 2004 at 1:07 AM
That would be the episode with the Ford Ranger that they put more effort into the bed than the rest of the truck, lol, two "Audioburn" funkadelik flame 12's in the bed with the enclosure as a couch and a 21" screen.......but yet in the cab 2 8" bazooka tubes, wtf???

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Posted By: rallysport
Date Posted: October 01, 2004 at 10:29 PM
lol another thing about that ranger episode the kid deliveres autoparts in his truck, hows he going to do it now with all that junk in the back?

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Posted By: mxxmikexx
Date Posted: October 02, 2004 at 12:22 AM
now he will have to buy another p.o.s. truck to deliever his parts with....... so basically he will be right back where he started.




Posted By: hurtado_roberto
Date Posted: October 02, 2004 at 1:05 AM
Some of the kids that come out on that show are not as knowledgable as some of us.  Do you think they will pay a pro if some of the audio or video components go bad?  Knowing them, they will provably leave it alone and ignore it.

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Posted By: heavilymedicate
Date Posted: October 02, 2004 at 2:27 AM

Don’t underestimate 2 good 8 inch subs, that cab is small and it does not take a huge sub to fill it with solid, tight, hit you in the gut bass.

Hurtado roberto is probably right; they will just let it be broken.  What a waste. 

Aside from that, these vehicle are impractical and that just turns me off from the show.  They don’t take into account what most of the people need to do with their automobiles.  Then again, the show is pimp my ride.  However, there is more then one way to skin a cat, errr.. Pimp A Ride.





Posted By: aggie altima
Date Posted: October 03, 2004 at 5:30 AM
I agree with heavilymedicate about the 2 8 inch bazookas in the truck, they should fill that small cab with plenty of bass. So what do I think of WCC's "Pimp My Ride" installs? It's only fitting. The show is called "Pimp My Ride". To whom are these rides pimp? Obviously not to most installers, but there aren't even enough installers for their opinion to matter. To these guests on the show, their ride is pimp. They have stuff that other people don't have in their car, that's pimp.

I personally don't think there's anything dramatically wrong with the cars. They may have useless things, but they go with themes which MTV would like to see. Screens in the doors? I don't see anything wrong with it. Sure it can only be seen if you open the door, but same goes for my audio installation in my trunk, yet I choose to finish it.

As for the equipment they use, it doesn't even matter because the people that are recieving the equipment won't know any better. They have no experience with audio equipment, so SQ isn't at all important, an Audiobahn sub would be just as good as a W7. If they were worried about SQ, I'm pretty sure they wouldn't need to be on "Pimp My Ride".

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Posted By: aggie altima
Date Posted: October 03, 2004 at 5:34 AM
P.S. I was just stating my opinion. posted_image
P.S.S. I don't like Audiobahn. posted_image

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Posted By: Chad7n7
Date Posted: October 03, 2004 at 7:47 PM

since I am getting grilled on the previous statement, guess I should clarify myself a little more, lol, what i meant by that was they put more in the bed than they put in the cab.

Not that I underestimate Bazooka in any way, we are an authorized dealer, and i personally think they are great for smaller trucks that have space limitations, such as the ranger on that episode.Thats probably one of the best lines of equipment that I have seen them use.

I just found it kind of funny the fact that they put that in the cab and the 12's in the bed.



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Posted By: boxmaker85
Date Posted: October 04, 2004 at 1:20 PM

LOL.  Yeah i'm w/ chad7n7.  And you also have to think, what is this guy going to do w/ those subs in the bed?  I got this HUGE feeling that he isn't goin to be going to competitions to show it off, so that leaves it for one thing, his personal "enjoyment".  But I guess if it's all given to you at no cost then a guy that has nothing isn't going to complain.  Beggers can't be choosers.





Posted By: flynntech
Date Posted: October 06, 2004 at 9:04 PM

I guess this show is to installers as Orange County Choppers is to me.

I have no problems with these guys or thier business, but the show sucks. They are always building the same bike. I don't care what Pauly is up to and all the family drama....show me some fabrication dammit!

I hung around a local Harley shop a lot when I was younger and this place had all kinds of things going on. Custom machine work, painting, headers, frame stretching...anything you could possibly imagine with a Harley Davidson motorcycle....  Then these clowns at OCC think they can make a show and entertain people with metal working basics....what a joke!

As for WCC, well it's MTV! What would you expect from MTV? It's as entertaining as monster garage to me! I hope these cars do break down as a result of a bad transmission or some other overlooked mechanical flaw. Don't they add security to some of these? Not that that would stop anyone in the L.A area.

Would anyone watch a show called "trade your ragga-muffin car for a newer better running vehicle" ? No, that would be boring to most viewers.

If anything, I think it helps the industry. All this hype gets people into your stores and sells more equipment, gives the installers more to do. It's a worldwide trend, everyone wants thier ride pimped.





Posted By: heavilymedicate
Date Posted: October 07, 2004 at 12:55 AM
Yeah, your definitely right on that last point.




Posted By: aidipf
Date Posted: October 13, 2004 at 3:08 PM
agreed that everything everyone is saying is true but...IT'S A T.V. SHOW... meaning it's sole purpose is for advertising. you know, showing what west coast customs is capable of to bring in some customers that's all. honestly i wouldn't knock those guy's though. the stuff they put in like fish tanks and steamers and yoga boards and what not is just to show their skill and get customers, not to win a competition. and besides ur not going to go all the way out for someone that getting something done for free anyway's. ur probably going to do just as they do. not put any thought efforts into spectaculr design. just do something simple yet attention grabbing.

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Posted By: boxmaker85
Date Posted: October 13, 2004 at 7:10 PM
Uh actually when I do something I do it for a purpose (form meets function).  And I do a good job.  Most good installers here will proably agree w/ me on that.  But yeah it's just a tv show.  And it's free.  Can't expect too much.




Posted By: fatgotti
Date Posted: October 14, 2004 at 9:55 AM
In the last to months I have put headrest screens in the backseat headrests in 3 different cars and everyone has used the Pimp My Ride line in talking to them a few times and you can believe 2 of the 3 did'nt know the difference between JL and Audiobahn for some reason were I live Audiobahn has became the standard in which to grade everthing  and thats why my wifes car ( XR's inside on a 300.4 and 1 12w6 on a 500.1) gets big respect. But I still thank Pimp my Ride because they bring to light what every other 12 volter has been seeing for years!!!!!!!

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Posted By: 94legend
Date Posted: October 14, 2004 at 5:34 PM
Well In my opinion, There work is for show! not for competition or for Sound Quality. Like what most of us have already stated.  Its bling bling. Not acutally SQ, SPL. Just all fun and games. I bet if they were to do competition, for best sound and looks, if they set there minds to it, they probably will put everyone up to it.  What private shop can do everything that they are offering? Well good luck and have fun. LOl!




Posted By: misterjimbo
Date Posted: October 27, 2004 at 10:33 AM
Pimp my ride... If another customer says that I am gonna kill them. Okay I watch the show it is good entertainment, because I like comming home from work and looking at the same cars I worked on at the office. Who doesn't like to be surrounded by hoopties all day then see them on tv at home too. I was lucky enough to quit my previous job 2 weeks ago, but I used to be the hooptie king. And for everybodies info the flames on audiobahns add like 3 db didn't you know. And also I have yet to see any sony stuff xplode the voice coils freeze duh.

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Posted By: jeffchilcott
Date Posted: October 31, 2004 at 3:50 PM
The main thing I notice,   They put all this work in the car but most of the time to open the hood to see if the motor is a ticking time bomb, besides the episode with the crx that didnt make it to the shop I havent seen much maintance under the hood to make sure the car isnt still a hoopty thats just gonna bust on the side of the road..Ohhhh sh*t my car with $25,000 worth of equipment just broke down in east compton   haha

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Posted By: gus1
Date Posted: October 31, 2004 at 7:51 PM
I will give them credit for using fairly non-mainstream brands in their installs. It helps us sell lots and lots of Directed and Clarion product...

On the other hand, as an installer, yeah, some of the work leaves a little to be desired, but to the people who are getting the cars, it's great. You gotta take one with the other I guess.

Gus
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Posted By: pacojoebob
Date Posted: October 31, 2004 at 11:08 PM

They just do stuff like that to make it look cool to the people watching the show. It's not like the people in TV land know what is good quality audio stuff. I just saw and the Home makeover show and for some reason they made a hometheater system with 3 recievers, 4 sony 8" subs and I couldn't count how many surrounds they had all over the walls. I thought wow that looks could but I know that a simple high quailty 5.1 surround system would blow away all those speakers. Of couse the show is sponsered by sears and sears doesn't carry that kind of audio stuff. I bet it's the same way with WCC, they use Audiobhan because audio pays to have their stuff on the show.





Posted By: hurtado_roberto
Date Posted: November 01, 2004 at 10:11 AM
What do you guys think of overhall on TLC?  Last night they said they put a 3500w sistem in a camaro but I didn't catch the brand.  Was this a good system or not?

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Posted By: misterjimbo
Date Posted: November 01, 2004 at 10:31 AM
Yeah places always say they put in these huge wattage systems. Did you ever notice that they do not tell you how they were rated. I am xertain that it was 3500 watts ILS. Oh you do not know ILS it means IF LIGHTNING STRIKES

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Posted By: bdl666
Date Posted: November 01, 2004 at 4:26 PM

 The stuff they put on the Camaro was Alphasonik (the amps and subs) and was installed by a company guy(Aphasonik that is).

 The rest was Power Acoustik. Don't know what the speakers were. But the whole install  looked good for something that was done in a couple of days.





Posted By: boxmaker85
Date Posted: November 02, 2004 at 9:10 AM
Most of overhaulin's audio stuff is Alphasonic I think.  Overhaulin's much better in my opinion (I'm a domestic guy also so...).  They do stuff to the whole car (tires, engine, interior, transmission, exterior, ect..).  And when it's done it's really nice.  That 'Vette they had on there one time (a '67 I believe) came out like new.  Absolutely beautiful.

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Posted By: 94legend
Date Posted: November 02, 2004 at 1:59 PM
West Coast Customs is awesome!  end this thread aalready. Seesh!




Posted By: boxmaker85
Date Posted: November 02, 2004 at 8:54 PM
So guys how about that show Pimp my ride?  Man that show is something else!   posted_image

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Posted By: amiyourmystery
Date Posted: November 06, 2004 at 2:02 PM

I have learned or come to understand that when a person have a bad experience with a product, they dog it out and jump on the bandwagon for another brand of equipment that is over priced and can suck just as bad.  I have audiobahn all through my ford explorer (speakers) but not the amps and "what nots" and it sounds pretty damn good.  Hell, I have been able to walk over a guy that had 2 RF 15's with my 2 10" subs (to add, I don't think it hits 140 db's).  It's my vacation vehicle for the family when we go on long trips.  And I did have good sound Q, too.  Then, there is another guy with the Kicker sq 12's that was going to blow it's spiders as it could barely keep up.  I am not trying to say Audiobahn is "the boss" but it's like every other equipment out there, sometimes you can get one of the good one they made and someone else can pick up the crap.  It's no different than cars, the pinto is the best gas saver ever made besides the festiva for the price you pay.  I am a Eathquake, Clarion (Pro audio sterieos) and Lanzar (before they committed suicide and joined with pyle)  guy but none of it is avail where I am in ga so I have to do the best i can with what i can get locally.    I still have the 3 earthquake amps since I brought them in 1993 and they all still work except one which goes into protect last week when the bass hits hard.  That is what makes me like earthquake and I know someone else could have brought the same things and they think it's crap cause they got the $h!ty one off of the shelf.  I do agree that some of audiobahns stuff is crap but like everything else, you can have bad experiences with everything that's overpriced.  I just maybe the only person who good a good set of speakers from them, I'll accept that possibility along with the fact that I have  been satisfied with them so far and it's been almost 3 yrs without having to replace one speaker yet.  this is just my opinion and sorry it's this long for me to get my point across.





Posted By: boxmaker85
Date Posted: November 07, 2004 at 12:54 AM
hey what part of ga u from amiyourmystery?  I'd like to hear the setup you've got goin.  Audo's are ok.  But most people don't have too much luck with them.  I've yet to hear a "quality" sounding audiobahan setup.  They've all been loud, very loud, but not that clean.  Give me a halla'.




Posted By: dr_sound
Date Posted: November 07, 2004 at 12:20 PM

Hey I think you can get your own louder system, it doesn´t matter if it´s overpriced brand, just take the best thing that fits on your system and combine it with others that include the parameters needed.

About pimp my ride, it´s only a T.V. show, if you see, JL, Nakamichi, eclipse, or alpine need to sell more, then you would see tv. spots or sound upgrades at that tv show, the person who knows about sound, takes that stuff, and "the new guys" on the street, buys the audiobahns, sonys and clarion stuff that they see at the show. they only want to sell...





Posted By: amiyourmystery
Date Posted: November 07, 2004 at 5:41 PM

boxmaker....

I am in albany, ga.






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