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A girl and her ride

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Topic: A girl and her ride

Posted By: dbdraggirl
Subject: A girl and her ride
Date Posted: October 08, 2004 at 3:51 PM

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That is me sitting on my tail gate.. bad pic but I had forgotten to post one on here before.. so until then.. here it is..



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Girls can do anything guys can do!!
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2~Kove 5 1/4" KC Components
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Posted By: stevdart
Date Posted: October 09, 2004 at 2:42 AM
Thank you, dbgirl!  It's been a long time.  Next  pic I want you smiling and looking at me.  :)  But I wear my pants up over my ass... not too cool I guess...  I'm so sick of seeing those droopy drawers on those young thugs  Get one of those boyz to get a pic of you with a big smile, with your system.

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Build the box so that it performs well in the worst case scenario and, in return, it will reward you at all times.




Posted By: flynntech
Date Posted: October 09, 2004 at 11:03 AM

"Girls can do anything guys can do!! "

Then why are they always asking for my help?

If you do your own installs, that's cool. This will be my new response to any female who asks...can you help me with..., my car is making a noise...., My computer won't open this file...., help, there is a dead squirell in my mailbox!!..... NOPE!...

Girls can do anything guys can do!!

Thanks dbdraggirl, you are a true inspiration!





Posted By: dbdraggirl
Date Posted: October 09, 2004 at 3:22 PM

thanks guys.. i am not really photographic.. . lol.. but.. hence I will try..  I'll see what i can do this weekend



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Girls can do anything guys can do!!
2~12" Kove Armageddon Z's
US Amps 2000x
US Amps 4300x (mids & highs)
US Amps X2R Crossover
Clarion DXZ745MP
2~Kove 5 1/4" KC Components
CompuStar Alarm :o)




Posted By: Mad Scientists
Date Posted: October 10, 2004 at 9:28 PM

'Girls can do anything guys can do'

 Amend that to say something along the lines of 'There's nothing I can't do' (excepting, of course, medical impossibilities) and I'll agree with it. Nothing torques me off more than someone (male of female) saying 'I can't do it'.  Maybe you don't know how, but it's nothing you can't learn.

 Both my wife and her daughter work on their own cars.. up to and including brakes, tires, tune ups, and oil changes. Wife helped change head gasket, struts, clutch, and timing belts. <shrug> Biggest part of it is them knowing that someone's there who can help them..

 I've gotten away from doing things for people.. I try to help them do it themselves now. 

I just spent the weekend changing the computer network here at the house from a hub based network with an internal DSL modem to a router based network with external DSL modem and wireless link. Got it done, but had to learn as I went.. Helps to have a 'room O' cr*p'.  Had to dig out an external DSL modem I had from years ago, make  up a crossover cable and spend hours searching for answers on the 'net and Usenet.

 Just some thoughts..

 Jim





Posted By: dxav
Date Posted: October 11, 2004 at 9:31 AM
Don't forget the age old adage:
Nothing is impossible for the person who does not have to do it!

We use that all the time in the lab....

DXAV




Posted By: speedwayaudio1
Date Posted: October 12, 2004 at 2:04 PM
Oh yeh like you guys never asked anyone for help or advice. this site is full of guys asking for help. nobody was born a car audio expert.

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Big Dave




Posted By: dbdraggirl
Date Posted: October 12, 2004 at 8:19 PM
Hi.. I never said that I didn't ask anyone for help... or that I haven't spent a lot of time with my nose in a book or watching and learning...

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Girls can do anything guys can do!!
2~12" Kove Armageddon Z's
US Amps 2000x
US Amps 4300x (mids & highs)
US Amps X2R Crossover
Clarion DXZ745MP
2~Kove 5 1/4" KC Components
CompuStar Alarm :o)




Posted By: flynntech
Date Posted: October 15, 2004 at 6:49 PM

Asking for help is one thing....asking for complete assistance is another!

My sister found out she needs a head gasket for here cavalier, the mechanic wants $800...she doesn't have it. Who's going to end up with this headache?....that's right, me. 

Hopefully I'll get a new torque wrench and a whiz wheel out of the deal, they even think that's too much to ask!

I'd like to sit down in a chair, drink beer and tell her what she needs to do, learn first hand what DIY automotive is all about! If I have too many and become confused, I'll simply point to the corresponding pages in the Chilton's repair manual and let her figure it out. What are big brothers for?





Posted By: Mad Scientists
Date Posted: October 16, 2004 at 9:05 PM

 I learned a long time ago that if I'm working on a car (and it's not a paying job) the owner of the car **WILL** be there with me.. cleaning parts, getting dirty, and not off enjoying themself while I'm stuck at the shop. Even if all they do is sit there.. I'm not gonna be there alone.

 regards,

 Jim





Posted By: Francious70
Date Posted: October 16, 2004 at 9:12 PM
I've found that my girlfriend get mad when I have to work on one of our cars and she isn't there to help.

Me: "I changed the oil in your car today."
Her: "#%(#&%, why didn't you wait for me???"
Me: "Uhhh...."

Paul

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Posted By: flynntech
Date Posted: October 17, 2004 at 5:44 PM

My hands are clean....

My sister found a shop to do this work for $500 instead of $850. Since the gasket set cost about $100 and I don't even have a torque wrench, it's not worth it to save $400.

Her: I cant' believe a mechanic wants over $800 to install a $17 part...even $500 is too much. They have no right to be ripping people off like that!

Me: It's more than $17 worth of parts and they don't shop at Autozone. If you knew what kind of work was involved, you wouldn't have a problem paying $500, even $850 is reasonable. A mechanic is in business to make money and they offer skilled labor, it's not something anyone off the street can do.

Her: Well, it's thier choice to be a mechanic, no one made them do it! They don't need to charge so much to install a $17 part......





Posted By: dbdraggirl
Date Posted: October 17, 2004 at 8:57 PM
My dad is a mechanic here at at Honda/GM dealership.. And they charge $70/hr for labor.. it's crazy...

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Girls can do anything guys can do!!
2~12" Kove Armageddon Z's
US Amps 2000x
US Amps 4300x (mids & highs)
US Amps X2R Crossover
Clarion DXZ745MP
2~Kove 5 1/4" KC Components
CompuStar Alarm :o)




Posted By: Mad Scientists
Date Posted: October 18, 2004 at 5:28 AM

Flynntech - tell her you know how she can save $400.. do it herself <grin>

dbdraggin - $70/hour is low for this area.. the independent shop I help out at is higher then that. Few months ago I saw a Lexus dealer bill.. labor rate was $100/hr. I'm told that Range Rover is $125/hr. Cars are getting more complicated, and are requiring more specialized equipment to work on them. Ask your Dad how much he has invested in tools and equipment. According to one of the tool truck dealers I dealt with, to replace what I've got would run around $20k.  The diagnostic scanner the shop has cost $7k, and needs to updated on a yearly basis. Alldata information services software is $200 a month.

 It's an expensive field to be in.. I was talking with an old boss of mine and he told me that the pay (in his area) is approaching a living wage for mechanics.  Good. Seems that the average joe can't work on the car anymore, and the 'shadetree' mechanic is getting squeezed out too.

 Regards,

 Jim





Posted By: ice4life8269
Date Posted: October 18, 2004 at 8:44 AM
jim, you're right man, but almost anyone can learn how to change a gasket on a cavy

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Posted By: flynntech
Date Posted: October 18, 2004 at 10:47 PM

How about $300 all inclusive?

It's good to be connected! 

I couldn't be happier if the Red Sox won tonights game and wiped that smile off of Jeter's face....oh wait they did!

$70? That's not crazy....that's business! It sucks to be on the wrong end of the deal...but people need thier cars to run and your dad earns his money.





Posted By: ice4life8269
Date Posted: October 19, 2004 at 5:45 AM
awesome, another sox fan...... Fu(k the yankees... pray for game 6.. GO RED SOX!!

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Posted By: Melted Fabric
Date Posted: October 20, 2004 at 1:32 PM

Well, as far as how much mechanics charge, it all depends on what kind of work they do and what area their shop is based in.  For example my friend's shop charge $89/hour for labor and they do superb job/installations, but their monthly rent in San Francisco is over $10,000/mo so you have to count in their expenses too when you talk about "they overcharge."  If the quality is there and they are honest about the cost of products or allow you to bring the parts to be installed, the labor rates usually justify themselves.  Automotive aside, as an example when I re-install someone's computer OS/software I generally charge about $120 - $140 for the whole process - one flat fee.  I charge that much because I know what I am bringing to the table, years upon years of experience.  The systems I build and repair will last for more than a year running well, but I set the system up to maintain itself since most people forget to defrag and do  alot of other little things to keep good performing status.  If someone were to watch every little adjustment, configuration, and optimization I make and the hours and effort I throw into it, they would wonder why I don't charge $200+ for the job.  I have never had someone come back to me because "you did not set my printer up right...., AOL does not work after you fixed it....., it ran fine for 2 months then started acting sluggish."  In general, the only reason something actually does go wrong would be because they installed a program that corrupted such n' such or disable anti-virus software and forgot to turn it back on, etc. 

I say all of this to show you that there are technicians/mechanics out there who are just phenomenal with cars.  If you were to sit down with a good mechanic and watch them work on your car, and I mean sit there as if you are performing some or all of the work, you would be blown away.  Also your car would run for a very long time before any problems occur, if you do regular maintenance (oil change,  filters, tire pressure checks, etc...) after such a job is done.

So, I agree with Mad Scientists (Jim) that yea, experience and tools and all other things makeup for the high-cost.
then again, you can always DIY.



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I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work.

When you do not know what you are doing and what you are doing is the best -- that is inspiration.





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