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Topic: Off Topic: Computer Problems

Posted By: audiobass10
Subject: Off Topic: Computer Problems
Date Posted: December 06, 2004 at 4:00 PM

My computer has been running very slowly for a little while now. It's progressively getting worse. I'm postitive it has spyware and viruses. Spybot and Ad-aware don't seem to help its performance in any way. Any other ideas on how to rid my computer of spyware/viruses? Also if it comes down to it..does anyone know how to reformat a computer?


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Posted By: maximus32583
Date Posted: December 06, 2004 at 4:46 PM
Well there are a lot of factors that can slow a computer. If you list the specs and if its a store bought computer like a dell or god forbid a gateway list the model number. Defraging might help. As far as reformating. It can be easy or it can be a pain. If you have not done it before ask for some help from someone who has.

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Posted By: audiobass10
Date Posted: December 06, 2004 at 5:53 PM

Actually it is a Gateway..It was designed for Windows ME, which had tons of problems from what i've heard. Not sure what the model number is or how i would find it. Also i have no experience with reformatting so anyone that wants to help..it would be appreciated...not sure if i have to reformat yet, but its always a last resort sort of thing which I would end up paying someone to do since i dont know how to do it myself.



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Posted By: flynntech
Date Posted: December 06, 2004 at 6:43 PM

#1 problem...Windows ME

I'm not just saying to make you feel bad, this really is a sucky operating system. Get rid of this and things will get better right away.

My PC has Windows XP Home, I don't have the original disk, so I've left it alone. I run Norton 'System Works' software and update and run the programs regularly. I use Ad Aware too. The firewall is set in my LAN connection and I have had no serious problems since.

XP home is good and cheap, $99 for a licensed copy. I like XP pro better, but Windows 2000 and even Windows '98 (2nd edition) will work much better than ME.

Another thing to check is the inside of your PC where the CPU is, blow the dust off if it is caked on thick. I have to do this with mine a lot since I leave it running 24/7.  Check the operation of the fan too, it would not work too well if at all if the small CPU fan is dead.

The best thing you can do is back up everything you want to keep and get ready to start over. Get some of the above mentioned software and 'see the light' so to speak.

This machine here is a compaq 800mHz celeron, it used to have ME and it sucked. I've maxed the memory out (only 256MB) and run the XP home, it does alright for what I use it for.

Be sure you aren't sharing power circuits with high current devices, like the fridge or space heater. Computers like nice clean AC power. Get a line conditioner/UPS if you believe this may be a problem in your home.

We really need to know more about the computer to troubleshoot it, but starting fresh with a real OS is a good start. Don't connect to the internet until you have a good firewall and anti-virus software installed.





Posted By: furflier
Date Posted: December 06, 2004 at 6:50 PM
If you bought it new you should have an OEM disk that came with it. All you have to do is put the disk in & reboot your computer. It will ask you a series of question like do you want to repair , reinstall  or do a full install. You will want to do a full install. It will  ask if you want to format the hdd. If you don't want to do it like that, boot your system up to the c:/ prompt  and type in format c:/ .Once formated you will need to reinstall you os. If you need more help let  just ask.

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Posted By: audiobass10
Date Posted: December 06, 2004 at 8:13 PM
I guess I should have mentioned that I run Windows XP. I was just pointing out that it was designed for Windows ME to make it clear to everyone when it was made. The computer runs fine when its not infected w/ so much spyware and such.

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Posted By: Asmodeus
Date Posted: December 06, 2004 at 8:53 PM

if you have the XP disk ..Put it in and reboot your puter....Make it boot to the CD....When the screen comes up you want to do the repair option.....What it will do is put Windows XP back to the way it was when it was first installed...It will not delete any files and you will NOT have to reinstall anthing....If that doesnt work...Then back up your info and format....Takes a while but is worth it...

I am running Spybot Search and destroy.....AVG antivirus Free Edition....And Norton Utilities.....I Have never experianced a prob...and I am still running Service pack 1...Not too sure about SP2.....Get all the updates to everything....And if your on High speed and Dload a lot turn on the windows Firewall.....

If you decide to format and you have access to it get a hard drive equal to or bigger than the one you are running that you wont mind overwritting.....Get a copy of Norton Ghost and make a copy of your HD...When you get it reloaded with Windows and All your virus protection and Spyware protection loaded....You will have a direct copy of your orig HD on the Ghosted copy and you can get all of your data files back but you will still have to reinstall any progs you had...

If you dont know what you are doing seek help before you really mess your puter up...



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Posted By: flynntech
Date Posted: December 06, 2004 at 9:00 PM

try this:

TOOLS, internet options, delete cookies/clear history/delete files

Update from msupdates official website, you should have the icon in your menu somwhere.

Update and install, reboot.

I would highly recomend NSW since it worked so well for me. It was money well spent, since I could concentrate on other things besides computer problems. I'm renewing my anti-virus registration for 2005, it has worked nice so far. I don't think the $25 or whatever is worth saving to risk what's happening these days. The program initially costed $100, but it was new at the time. It may be cheaper if you shop around, but it's definitly worth it when you're having problems.  It only works if you run it every now and then to maintain the system, always update it and reboot now and then.





Posted By: stevdart
Date Posted: December 07, 2004 at 4:48 PM

Ad-aware is mosty likely searching out and finding any spyware applications.  I've been using it for years and it seems to be perfect.  Just always check for updates when you run it. 

First thing I'd do is find out what is running in the background if the computer is bogging down.  Press ctrl-alt-del to bring up task manager.  Look at the applications, then the processes that are running on the machine.  See anything that looks like it shouldn't be running?  Then check the tab Performance, CPU usage.  Is it high?

One application I know of that could be running hidden is Kazaa or KazaaLite.  If you have a modem with indicator lights, look at it to see if there is traffic that you are unaware of.  If the machine is set up for separate users, see if anyone has applications running.  And check to see if any recent downloaded .exe files might have caused a system slowdown.  If you have some new ones you don't use, go to Windows control panel and remove them.

Basic maintenance:  Once a week defragment, and run Disk Cleanup ( in Accessories, System Tools.





Posted By: supradude
Date Posted: December 07, 2004 at 5:12 PM
I have the same type problems. I am running Windows ME, and I know I need to upgrade to XP. I am running virus protection from Trend called PCillin, and it catches all the viruses, etc. I also use Ad-aware. I also defragment regularly. I leave it on 24/7. My problem is the longer that I leave it on the slower it gets. And if I scan everyday with Ad-aware, I end up with 40 or 50 criticals that I have to delete. If I scan, then use the internet right away, I usually have no problems. Does it sound like my virus protection is letting something get in? Or does it even supposed to stop these type of problems? What can I run that will STOP all of these ad type problems from getting on my computer?

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Posted By: stevdart
Date Posted: December 07, 2004 at 6:37 PM

If you get adware every day, then pull up the history folder (pull down from tool bar on IE).  Look at every site you visited, because at least one of them is providing some spyware along with whatever else it is giving you.  I know there are programs that will stop what it knows you don't want, but I know nothing that is free that will stop invasion.  Ad-aware, as far as I can tell, is a removal tool but even though you select what you want removed and "quarantine" it, I'm not sure that the spyware can't get back in again even though it's on the list.  If I kept a written record of what I've removed I would know better.

https://downloads-zdnet.com.com/Adware-Spyware-Removal/3150-8022_2-0.html





Posted By: maximus32583
Date Posted: December 07, 2004 at 6:37 PM
Just a note on upgrading ME to XP. If your computer does not have over 128 megs of ram XP will puke all over the place. You are better off installing 2000. Also if the computer is not atleast 500Mhz. XP is not a good idea. ME blows but installed and patched it may run faster if your computer does not have the power...

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Posted By: /R7
Date Posted: December 07, 2004 at 8:37 PM
@ Supradude, windows ME was never designed to act like a server operating system, you should shut down at least every few days and let the computer refresh itself. the kernel in windows ME is so bloated and baddly coded, constent usage begins to drag down the computer due to built up memory leaks and other problems contained in the kernel (all of which i cant even guess at)

windows XP will not be suitable as maximus said if your computer has less than 256. it may right fine in between 128-256, but you will experiance a performance drop in certain programs and video games.

my suggestion for anyone who runs an older computer, for long periods of time, or even has a packaged computer(dell/gateway) is to upgrade to windows2000, win2k is a solid operating system that can actually handle sitting around and doing nothing. its designed for application and server use, so video games may not benefit from it, but in general you should beable to run your computer longer and with less slow-down.

Some programs to consider running are

a new browser: Opera (opera.com) or Mozilla Firefox (https://www.mozilla.org/)
a new virus scanner: if your worried about memory loss, AND you know what sites and things you download, you can go with a free online virus scanner, to list a few:
https://housecall.trendmicro.com/
https://www.pandasoftware.com/activescan/com/activescan_principal.htm (will require Internet explorer though lol)
https://tech24.com/virusscan.asp

i wouldnt recommend this for people that dont really arent very computer savy, these days virus's show up alot, and unless you only visit a few websites in your daily lives, then you should not just use a web scanner.

I agree with the use of norton system works. its a great tool, it scans your computer for various things to keep the computer in good working order.
i also agree to the use of "Ad-Aware" i've been using this tool for a very long time on my own PC. and once in a while i'd find a few here and there, and know where they came from, but it didnt bother me.
i checked my parents old PC and i turned this up (i kept the log file because i was amazed at what was collected)
/R7] < wrote:

r>Scanning finished
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Suspicious modules found:0
Suspicious keys found :0
Suspicious folders found:4
Suspicious files found:167
===========================
Components ignored:0
Total components found:171


Ad-Aware really helped boost up browsing and computer boot times just because of 1 scan.





Posted By: supradude
Date Posted: December 08, 2004 at 10:00 AM
@ /r7, Is there anything that I can buy that will stop the ad type stuff from getting in my registery? The Ad-aware works great to get it out, but I'd like to keep it from getting in.Thanks for the advice on upgrading. I have been thinking about doing it for awhile. I guess I'll have to go with Windows 2000 since the XP won't work. I've only got 128 of memory, and its the Rambus Ram type, very rare and expensive to add more.

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Posted By: fuseblower
Date Posted: December 08, 2004 at 10:39 AM

I agree with r7, with his breakdown and explanations. 

Go with Windows 2000 if you have a lot of external add on items such as printers, scanners, cameras and etc and don't meet the performance requirements...  If you don't have a lot of add on and meet the requirements for XP I would go with XP.  As for ME, get rid of it as fast as you can.

Supradude, what type of PC do you have.  You should be able to get some ram real cheap. 





Posted By: /R7
Date Posted: December 08, 2004 at 2:37 PM
supra, this is why i suggest Opera or FireFox.
in each program they have options to block popups. Most of the adware i find comes from sites that popup a bunch of BS on your screen, not the actual embedded ads on pages. (not to say it will eliminate all your problems)
i tried doing a quick search on blocking registry insertions but i wasnt going to go through 1000 websites to find my answer, (got stuff to do ;/)
i did find this, and if your interested in FireFox, you can download this file
https://www.deftone.com/blogzilla/misc/cookperm.txt
Blogzilla wrote:


This file is called cookperm.txt and is located in your Mozilla Profile directory, which on 2000/XP is usually here:

C:\Documents and Settings\User\Application Data\Mozilla\Profiles\user\*.slt



it will increase firefox's effectiveness.

i hope this helps a bit

EDIT:
due to the release of firefox 1.0, i believe they changed "cookperm" to hostperm.1
i've been testing this file, and noticed blocked image-ads that you manually add into FireFox are put into the hostperm.1, and not cookperm.txt.
so just change cookperm and you should beable to take advantage of the cookperm file.

and also note, if you go into your cookies.txt file you can find various ad server URLS they may beable to be converted for use in the hostperm.1 file to block even more advertisements.
hth

EDIT2: -_-... *err* ignore all that the format has changed inside of the hostperm.1 file as well, so you wont beable to take advantage of the cookperm file, unless you goto a PRE 1.0 version, and i dont know how far back you have to go to take advantage of this. sorry for wasting your time ;/




Posted By: /R7
Date Posted: December 08, 2004 at 3:14 PM
Well i felt i would try and take advantage of what firefox can do, and the cookperm, so i went ahead and edit'd the cookperm.txt file i mentioned above, to the hostperm.1 format.
the below file, hostperm.rar just needs to be renamed back to hostperm.1, dont try and extract it lol.
hostperm.rar
i tested it on some websites, including the sites listed in it, and it does work, and if you go ahead an use firefox, if you ever see an ad on a website rightclick on that image and at the bottom of the context menu it will have an option to "Block images from xyz.zyx" select that, and you'll have added another site to the list.

i hope that helps your advertisement issue. sorry for all the BS above.




Posted By: supradude
Date Posted: December 08, 2004 at 4:32 PM
@ fuseblower, I have a Gateway computer. It has a 1.4 Intel Pentium processor. The memory in it is 2 strips of 64 meg each Rambus type memory, total of 128. I have done some research on adding memory and the only thing I can do (I think) is add 2 more 64 strips, total of 256 with all 4 strips. Or get 2 -128 strips, since it has to be installed in pairs. The shops I checked told me this type of memory is very rare and very expensive. Any other advice is welcome. I don't know a whole lot about computers.  @ /r7, I will try what you suggested and see if it helps me. Thanks for your trouble and time.

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Posted By: fuseblower
Date Posted: December 09, 2004 at 12:51 PM

supradude, did a little checking around and your memory is a little more expensive than SDRAM.  So, I would go with windows 2000 unless you want to upgrade your ram.  It will cost you a few dollars but will also help you with your computer performance.  Try this site for cheap memory.

https://www.zipzoomfly.com/

https://www.pricewatch.com/





Posted By: supradude
Date Posted: December 09, 2004 at 6:22 PM
@ fuseblower, Thanks, I looked around and the best price I could find is at  www.4allmemory.com, so I guess  I'll try to get it from them. They have 512MB (2-256 sticks) for $197.98/ free shipping. I guess my best thing to do is to do away with the 2-64's I have in it now and put the 2-256's in it? They told me I can't mix the memory. Then I can upgrade to XP. Does that sound like the best way to go? Thanks  

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Posted By: stevdart
Date Posted: December 09, 2004 at 11:37 PM
Sell the memory on fleabay after you get the new sticks installed.  There surely is someone just like you looking for upgrade solutions.





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