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Topic: another stolen car

Posted By: SEXIFIED
Subject: another stolen car
Date Posted: February 27, 2005 at 10:00 PM

i work up here in canada and i'm pretty sure that the crime here isn't as bad as say new york we have the highest car theft per-capita in canada.......lucky us. where i work is not in the downtown location but it's not in the "best" area, although is there such a thing anymore? anyways i have the best in security on my car (as good as you can get without going to prison) and so do the guys i work with, this past saturday morning i went to work to find a car that was parked on the street as if the owner had parked it there(parked straight on the street not sideways on the curb) it was a dodge neon, everything looked fine exept it had a blown out tire.....big deal right?.....well it had no bumper in the rear, missing pass-rear glass and the entire steering shroud, well i called it into the police and they picked the car up 2 hours later......my point is this....when i looked at the car and saw the inside all smashed and papers thrown around why did this NOT have security, it could have been as little as a l.e.d. or as creative as a 2way alarm, but now the owner has to deal with insurance,getting to work and back, and the invaision that the person(s) has now left in the back of their mind. lesson learned i guess.....buy a $12.00 steering wheels club, or an immobilizer either way these people need to protect there investments......even if it is a dodge neon!(joking! i love the srt-4)

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Posted By: auex
Date Posted: February 27, 2005 at 10:31 PM
It was a neon, the owner couldn't afford an alarm. Just kidding.

Some people just think that it won't happen to them. There really is no point preaching to people that don't care. I live in AZ which was #1 in auto theft in the US for the previous 3 years, this year it is #3.

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Posted By: danieljaluise
Date Posted: February 27, 2005 at 10:41 PM
I agree. The FIRST accessory added to any car should be an alarm. When I sold stereo's at best buy, I'd say at least one person every day would come looking for a new stereo and and say that they needed a new one because their's just got stolen. I'd ask them if they had an alarm. 9 times out of 10 the responce is "Nah, I don't need that sh*t." Then they walk out of the store with a 300 dollar deck. If I wanted to push the alarm I would have, but people this stupid almost deserve to have their cars vandalized.

Of course I saw the other side too. Shady looking guys would walk in with a radio and ask for the wiring harness that plugs into the deck. When will thieves learn to cut the harness out of the car when they are stealing the stereo! come on!

I don't even think Pittsburgh PA is a high crime area.




Posted By: speedwayaudio1
Date Posted: February 28, 2005 at 12:14 AM

a good crook will get what they want no matter what you have. most people don't even pay attention to alarms when they go off. how many times have anyone of you guy's heard an alarm and not payed a bit of attention? I have and not gave it a second thought. Not that I ment to, I just didn't. And so do lots of others.



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Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: February 28, 2005 at 12:16 PM
To all those driver's in Provinces or states that have private insurance................. get some sort of security/immobilizer system !! I live in a province that still have public insurance so my isnurance doesn't go up if my car gets stolen or vandalized, but that's not the point. The point is it's still a violation to me and I don't like my possessions  to be violated posted_image The cost of an immobilizer or pager system is far cheaper than the insurance premiums paid on a theft or vandalism.

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Velocity Custom Home Theater
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Posted By: forbidden
Date Posted: February 28, 2005 at 1:38 PM
You must have the dubious distinction of being from Surrey.

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Posted By: oonikfraleyoo
Date Posted: February 28, 2005 at 1:42 PM
A pitbull and a 12 gauge works better than any alarm. Haha, JK, But really though, I have one of the most expensive alarms out there and I really don't expect it to do much good. People will WATCH someone steal your car and then go on about their business. If they want it bad enough, its theirs, not much you can do about it, unfortunatly.

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Posted By: MAXST
Date Posted: February 28, 2005 at 11:12 PM
If they want it bad enough, they will get it....sometime.

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Posted By: thsonnen
Date Posted: February 28, 2005 at 11:32 PM
Get an alarm with a pager. Most of the time the car thief
will set off the alarm for a few seconds, before disarming it. This will generally set off your pager, and allow you time to load your .45. Other than that, there are many ways to protect you investment, from perimeter sensors, to multiple kill switches, back up battery, and etc. The cost of your investment will probably determine the price you are willing to put into your security system. I will agree that most customers don't hesistate on spending $2000.00 on an audio system, and fail to dish out any money for a security system. To those, tough luck, or should I say good luck.




Posted By: skoldspuppy
Date Posted: March 01, 2005 at 7:48 AM

Thats why you got to love comperhensive Insurance with non stock equipment coverage, its worth the extra 400 bucks a year without any deductible

A good investment for anyone with over 400 dollars in gear in thier car

Later
--Skold



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Posted By: misterjimbo
Date Posted: March 01, 2005 at 9:18 AM
ok enough of the i will get my gun and shoot you over my car business. most of you do not have a gun and if you do why commit a class a felony over your car?  sorry had to get that off of my chest. also under stressed conditions your heart rate doubles and your accuracy is greatly affected and i am willing to bet you would shoot your precious car 3 times for every one that you hit the guy stealing it. as long as we have something that someone else wants we are going to have a problem with theft. alarms are nice, but we all no that there is no alarm that can stop a flatbed truck.

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Posted By: Ravendarat
Date Posted: March 01, 2005 at 11:11 AM
Here's my take on this whole situaton. First I have to agree with misterjimbo, guns dont solve sh*t. Plain and simple. Now second. Alarms arent made to stop professional car thieves, cause they are probally gonna get your car no matter what you do, if its nice enough dont kid yourself, the flatbed may comeout. Alarms are ment to deter the weekend thieves and kids. Some 14 year old kid looking to steel a stereo or a car is probally not gonna bother steeling your car when there are probally another 2 dozen on your block that dont have alarms. It just doesnt make sense. You still need an alarm, the blinking light isnt enough because if I was a thief I would probally strike a car to make sure that there is actually an alarm in the car and not just a fake light. If I found out it was a fake light I would probally target that car just to teach the owner a lesson for being cheap. Thieves are scum, thats it, thats the secret. Thats why they do what they do, their scum. Also just to revisit the gun point for a second, to anyone who was serious about pulling a gun on a thief, did you ever think about the fact that they might be packing, or even worse they might have a friend around the corner or in the bushes that has a pistol trained on you. Be smart guys, stay safe and remember that at the end of the day its just stuff and stuff can be replaced. Stereos, good or bad, sound the same to dead guys.

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Posted By: oonikfraleyoo
Date Posted: March 01, 2005 at 11:23 AM
Thats what the pitbull is for!!!!!posted_image

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Posted By: Master Asylum
Date Posted: March 02, 2005 at 8:34 AM

My take on the gun is slightly different. Now given, I'm not a huge enthusiast, but well, my point is plain and simple. If you are willing to take from me, you are willing to die by me. And for the most part a majority of thieves aren't gonna qualify for a high treatment. Maybe my bar, or any other blunt beatable object. But my biggest dislike is simply that if they can't take it, they usually damage it just to screw you. (Atleast the lower end thieves.) Personally that's what gets me, if I make it so you can't get it (Fiberglass could be a major problems for most thieves) then why destroy it? I wouldn't touch anyones car in a damaging manor unless they did something extreme, its one of my sacred things. Touching my car is just a very bad trigger for me, and if the alarm is going off and they are still in my car trying to get stuff when I get there, I don't mind making the point. The gun prolly will never come out, atleast not at the scene, on the other hand, the bar or bat probably will.

I am willing to serve time to apply real justice. I may even just take the knees out so they can't get away. But my point will be made, and hopefully the police arrive soon enough for it. I'm also hot tempered and a little nuts, a bad combo. But I believe that the justice system is a huge failure and I hate people getting away with crap. If I ever got my stuff stolen and saw it somewhere else, I'd probably put them down real well. That's why I like the ESN setup, steal it go ahead, it's worthless to you idiot.



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2xKicker 12" L5 Solobaric-2 Ohm




Posted By: joebobcletusjr
Date Posted: March 02, 2005 at 2:41 PM
[QUOTE=danieljaluise]I agree. The FIRST accessory added to any car should be an alarm. QUOTE]
 
When ever I do an install for any friends or family, I will always refuse to install anything until they purchase an alarm, I don't care if they don't buy it from me, and some times I will istall the alarm for free or the price of materials (I still cut my friends a great deal, and of course I won't charge family, that would just be wrong).
 
The point is that an alarm is, hands down, the most important thing you can buy for your car, even if you have nothing more to protect than an ashtray full of pennies.  And with the right insurance company, you can save money just by having one.
 
Most people (dumb people) think that a blinking LED is just a billboard stating that they have something to protect, when in reality a car thief will avoid this car because of the fact that they have a higher chance of being seen with an alarm going off, and there is a chance that the alarm will have an ignition kill, which the smarter criminals will know.  But hey, what criminal is really smart?


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Posted By: specialauto
Date Posted: April 12, 2005 at 6:46 PM
a pager alarm is best, cuz no one really pays attention to alarms goin off anymore...but the moron who is taking it will be scared.. unless hes good..
which means.. IF he wants it bad enuff... he'll take it

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