All Professional Installers please reply.
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Topic: All Professional Installers please reply.
Posted By: TheRapture
Subject: All Professional Installers please reply.
Date Posted: January 29, 2003 at 9:52 AM
Hi everyone, Heres the low down... I'm getting my new business of the ground and was wondering if all of you can help me with the prices to charge? Do you charge by a regular HOURLY Labor rate... no matter what the install? Do you install a certian item (example a remote start and alarm combo) for 1 price... and another (example Amplifier and subwoofer system) for another price? Do you all charge the MSRP on the items you sell? Do you have weavers the people signs before you do an install on there car? All the information everyone can provide will help me a great deal.. THANKS EVERYONE!
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Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: January 29, 2003 at 10:25 AM
Do you charge by a regular HOURLY Labor rate... no matter what the install? - We charge a basic rate for basic installations like RS, alarms, head unit installations, etc ( you know all the basic stuff ). When it comes down to custom work we charge per hour, but we usually never charge the full hours worked. We give the customer a list of hours charged against them and work out a deal because they usually buy the equipment from us.
Do you install a certian item (example a remote start and alarm combo) for 1 price... and another (example Amplifier and subwoofer system) for another price? - Yes, this way you can charge accordingly when a vehicle you know will take longer because of bypasses or you know that the car is harder to take apart for running wires for amps & RCA's. Having a set rate of charge gives the customer a better idea of what is involved as far as costs are concerned, rather trying to give them a rough time frame that it will be finished in.
Do you all charge the MSRP on the items you sell? - Never.... can't sell anything then. Up here it's cut throat because everyone here are Mennonites !!
Do you have weavers the people signs before you do an install on there car? - No, waivers are for the installers or shop owner's that are not confident in their employees and their own company. To me this shows the customers a weak managed installation facility and a lack of trust in the ability of the installers. You can but in the end, if you screw something up..... it's still your fault no matter what a little piece of paper says..... although if the customer signs it, they waive any responsibility of damage against you.
------------- Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: TheRapture
Date Posted: January 29, 2003 at 11:38 AM
Thanks Jeff for the info. if i may be so blunt... what are your actuall prices for the diffrent types of instalation? without the purchase of the item from you. Thanks again!
Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: January 29, 2003 at 12:43 PM
- Remote Starter Installation: ( includes type A & B door lock systems ) : $ 100.00
- If it's a Type c, d or F then I charge according on how many relays are needed + time
- All other accessories are $ 35.00 installation charge per hour + the price of the equipment : this includes: power trunk release, windows, sunroof
- transponder bypasses I charge $ 35.00 base price for any vehicle that needs it. If the vehicle is brought to me and I supply the bypass + remote starter I charge $ 125.00 for installation
- Head Unit installation : Basic ( this is if I know what to expect ) : $ 35.00
- speaker installation: ( car specific ) Basic $ 35.00 per pair and this would be co-axial not components
- amp installation: Basic ( install on back of seat & run wires to HU & battery ) $ 50.00
- alarm installation: $ 100.00 ( add more for accessories )
------------- Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: TheRapture
Date Posted: January 29, 2003 at 12:59 PM
Thanks for you help Jeff! This info give me a good base to start at. Thanks again!
Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: January 29, 2003 at 1:07 PM
BTW: All these prices are Canadian and just make sure that you reflect your prices according to the area that your in. This will weigh heavily on what you SHOULD charge compared what you CAN charge.
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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: slobert
Date Posted: January 29, 2003 at 6:44 PM
head unit 47.99 2speakers 31.99 2channel amp 49.99 4channel amp 59.99 dedicated changer/satellite radio 59.99 modulated 69.99 dash kits (except for some fords and a few other exceptions) 15.99 harnesses (except for the toyota and ford premium amp integrators) 15.99 antenna adapters 10.99 speaker harnesses 4.99 there is also a 4.00 materials charge for anything that comes into the bay
Posted By: TheRapture
Date Posted: January 30, 2003 at 8:03 AM
Thanks for the replys guys! All this info helps me a great deal!
Posted By: stone
Date Posted: January 30, 2003 at 8:29 AM
Slobert - You work at a Best Buy don't you.....
Posted By: slobert
Date Posted: January 30, 2003 at 11:15 AM
how'd ya guess
Posted By: themagicone
Date Posted: January 30, 2003 at 11:41 AM
I charge a flat rate and sometimes a litle more depending on the customer. A basic remote start w/o keyless starts at $125 +$40 for a bypass. A remote start w/keyless starts at $199 +$40 for a bypass. If the customer wants to add things like trunk pop and horn triger depending on the customer i will charge between 10 and 40.... Steal from the rich and give to the needy. Also make sure you have a policy on returning, return of product only - no return of labor. If you dont do that you can get screwed out of a lot money. Lastley, look into libaiity insurance for damage claims. I f*ed up a panel in honda once the dealer wanted $200 just for the part luckly the shop had insurnace to cover it.
Posted By: slobert
Date Posted: January 30, 2003 at 11:59 AM
A kid that I used to work with connected (dont ask me why) the illumination, dimmer... all the orange wires on a honda deck harness together. the lady turned on her lights in the parking lot and smoke filled her car.... anyway $1600.00 for honda to fix not to mention the cost of the rental car.... insurance claim for sure
Posted By: themagicone
Date Posted: January 30, 2003 at 2:08 PM
Well once i was working on a 2001 Dodge dakota and i shifted it into netrual and hit the 4wd selector went to shift it back into park and stuck in reverse and the engine reved and flew back into the garage door. A easy 2grand of damage from that one. They said i had something underneath the brake pedal pushing on the gas, that dosent pan out because i had my foot on the brake to sh*tf out of park and it didnt do nothing then.
Posted By: king244
Date Posted: January 31, 2003 at 6:06 PM
A guy in my shop a few years back didnt fuse the +12v wire on an alarm in an s-10 pickup....well, it shorted and because he put it to the fuseblock and to the HOT side , the truck caught fire while the owner was in McDonalds drive thru---he ordered his meal with a fire extinguisher...ha ha...the truck came back in covered with white halon residue in the whole interior, myself and the boss worked on it all day to reconstruct the dash , ductwork and wiring......laughing the whole time....the installer that caused it was nicknamed "sparky " for about a year........anyway, sometimes stupid mistakes are made, you never know...get the insurance....
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