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Topic: advice needed, any and all

Posted By: beerstud136
Subject: advice needed, any and all
Date Posted: January 29, 2003 at 9:17 PM

alright so i've been thinking lately since i bought my laptop... i know there are mobile mp3 players, but ive already spent enough money on my deck that i dont want to take it out and replace it already, but it does have an aux input control, thats not my question, does anyone know of any type of computer program that would intergrate the controls from a mobile head unit onto a laptop? like you see on fast & the furious in the eclipse, he's got his nos gauges and all the engine specs on a computer beside him, and no im not the "fast & the furious groupie" but is there anyhtign like that for the audio asspect of  a car? anything at all is useful, i'd mostly use it  a computer for music, and more than that j ust the looks of it, but hey what the hell, i ran out of things to waste money on, you car stereo nuts know how it is!

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Posted By: beerstud136
Date Posted: January 31, 2003 at 10:16 PM

has anyone even HEARD of anything close to what im talking about?



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Posted By: Lobstermagnet
Date Posted: January 31, 2003 at 10:34 PM

On The Fast & The Furious, he used the computer because he (supposedly) had what I believe is called "Venom Nitrous," which, from what I understand, is very similar to regular push-and-go nitro, except it's flow is computer regulated. In the movie, the laptop was useless, because he didn't have any of the Venom components, just the computer. It was your standard bottle and set up, with a computer for show.

Now I can only guess at what you're talking about, but from what I understand, you want to use your computer as an MP3 player instead of putting one in. Kinda like using a portable CD player and a car-tape kit? Well, you could just buy a double sided mini stereo cord like those  used for recording using portable MD players. It's a cord with a "headphone" jack on each side. You could plug one end into your laptop's speaker output, and the other into your headphone-sized aux jack on your deck (assuming you have one). If not, then you could buy a cord with one headphone jack, and two (red, white) RCA hook-ups on the other side, like the kind for hooking up your discman to a personal stereo reciever, like the kind in your house.

If you do either of those, you'll most likely end up without the best quality, but the setup you want.

If not, then you're in for a tedious process of figuring out what wires do what, and splicing splicing splicing!





Posted By: beerstud136
Date Posted: February 02, 2003 at 4:53 PM
my head unit has an aux input, i already have the rca cable that has an earphone jack on one end and 2 rca males on the other, would go form the audio out on the computer to the rca input of the aux channel on the head unit, i know that would work, but im just wondering if there is any type of compent for a computer that would allow you to fine tune the sound and settings of your system, someone i was talking to was telling me that kenwood came out with a full system that allows you to do everything from check your ground connects to the status of your fuses, all on a computer, anyone ever heard of this?

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Posted By: Big Purds
Date Posted: February 03, 2003 at 1:13 AM

I think your friend is feeding you a line and you are swallowing it whole...

I havent heard of any such program personally, and when I asked all of my friends in various shops around, all they had to say was HA!

and as afforementioned, all you are doing is adding more components to degrade your sound by doing what you are wanting to do...mobile audio decks will play your music at much higher quality than your computer will ever comprehend in its time...

and BTW, a true stereo "nut" NEVER EVER runs out of things to waste money on...have you bought a pair of Wilson Audio GrandSlams (approx. $150K) and tore them apart to install in your car yet? there will always be upgrades to what you are running...got any Kimber Cable or even Monster Cable M series wiring?

a true audiophile realizes and relishes in the fact that they will NEVER be done at any given point in time...they may reach a point where its time to take a break for a bit, but completion is the gold at the end of the rainbow...





Posted By: giff
Date Posted: February 03, 2003 at 8:21 PM

I asked a similar question here before and got some helpfull replys from a chap who installed a full sized computer in the trunck of his Acura as an MP3 server using (mostly, I think) Alpine products. Do a search in the forums here on "MP3 and laptop".

Mp3 is a "lossy" (to say the least) compression algorithm which most audiophiles (ie; stereo snobs!) look down on because of the degradation of the sound quality inherent in a compression algorithm. BUT- IF- you load your future PC based server with .WMA files instead of .mp3, then you will find that with a decent sound card in the machine you will have excellent sound (albeit with a much greater file size... but hell, 180 GIG IDE hard drives are availible for under $280.00 US!)

Always remember that your EARS are ANALOG- DIGITAL is NOT necessarily better than analog sources.

PS: keep in mind that most of the people into car stereo lack the sophistication to comprehend what truly accurate sound reproduction is, and I suspect that you are one of them in light of you're boasting about 158 DB SPL's or some such non-sense, so in your case MP3 files should be just fine!





Posted By: beerstud136
Date Posted: February 03, 2003 at 11:29 PM
hey man thats 158 dB's of clear music, not just bass. 75% of my system is dedicated to sound quality!

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Posted By: Big Purds
Date Posted: February 03, 2003 at 11:57 PM

lmao...

158 db does not lend to sound quality at all...your standards are obviously very low in the spectrum if that is your belief...tell me what you are running that could possibly make 158 dbs sound nice...





Posted By: beerstud136
Date Posted: February 04, 2003 at 4:28 PM

well maybe not 75%, i like to exadurate abit, but i invested alot into my high end, not just all into making it boom

JVC KD-SH55 Reciever

Ultimate PS6940 6x9's driven at 100w rms, Ultimate PS52 5 1/4" Components driven at 65w rms, each powered by a Kenwood 749S.

2 12" Kicker L7 Solobarics, powered by a Rockford Fosgate 1500bd power series amp

gimmie a break



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Posted By: Big Purds
Date Posted: February 05, 2003 at 5:13 PM

haha...

sorry, I dont mean to pick on you here, but Ultimate and Sound Quality dont really belong in the same category...I have heard them in may installs and have never been impressed...they sound like most of the cheap generic speakers available in lower end stores...

my personal setup sounds good, but not great either, and that is:

Clarion 9575z head unit (straight preamp, no deck power)

Clarion 7500z digital signal processor

Clarion 655Tz 6 disc changer

Audio Control Epicenter

Focal PolyKevlar 136K components in custom door panel enclosures

Xtant X1244 Hex subs

MTX 2300 (2x300W) for front stage

Crossfire BMF1000D for subs

All Monster Wiring and Accessories...

I havent metered it yet with the Hex 12s, but I hit your exact number (158.8) with my Stroker 18 in an undersized box ported to 63 Hz and a MMats d200hc...I figure I should be able to hit 160 without too much trouble next season cuz I am going to do a bigger box and recone the sub to where the amp does its power...its a dual 4, which needs power at 2 ohm, and the amp does its optimum power at 1 ohm...

oh well, we wil see I guess...

btw, the Hex12s are more for the off season listening pleasure...the Stroker sounds absolutely like ass, especially tuned that high...almost unbearable to listen to, so it goes in and out during competition season...





Posted By: beerstud136
Date Posted: February 05, 2003 at 6:29 PM

hey man! lay off buddy. i mean i k now i don't have the greatest system in the world, but it sure beats the piss out of some of those set ups... as far as the ultimates go, i get into this alot over them, keeping in mind i live in canada, and i've never even heard of some of those american companies yet, i personaly think that my ultimates are pretty good, like you said they sound like cheap generic speakers? comee onnnnnnnn...... what? sony? kenwood? jbl?  they can kick the #%^$ outta alot of the crap out there on the market.

like i dont have equalizers and signal processors all that crap, but for what i'm runnin, ya gotta gimmie some credit. it goes people with little setups that run thier amp for thier subs from thier rear ch pre out, then people like me that do what they can, then the hardcore that can't control themselves lol. its all good though.



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Posted By: Big Purds
Date Posted: February 08, 2003 at 1:06 PM

hey man, being Canadian is no excuse...I am Canadian too...btw, Focal is made in France, not the states, heh...

more constructively, you would probably be better off spending your money on nicer equipment, and not focusing on stereo "rice" so to speak...like putting your laptop into your car and using it as some kind of master control unit...decks are designed as control units, and not so much as slave untis...

I dont really want to "pick on" you here, but when you say this - "but hey what the hell, i ran out of things to waste money on, you car stereo nuts know how it is!" - and then tell me you are running Ultimate components and a Kenwood amp, I really start to question things...like I said, you would be better off saving up some more money and buying some different equipment...my personal thoughts on those Ultimates is that they are rather bland and not very musical at all...and Im not a very big fan of the Kenwood amps either...they are kind of OK, but just not to my taste...





Posted By: beerstud136
Date Posted: February 10, 2003 at 11:47 AM
alright well then gimmie some advice, eventualy i'll be gettin rid of my car and hopefully the stereo goes with it, so how do you feel about brands like concept, focal, planet audio and boss?

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Posted By: beerstud136
Date Posted: February 10, 2003 at 11:47 AM
alright well then gimmie some advice, eventualy i'll be gettin rid of my car and hopefully the stereo goes with it, so how do you feel about brands like concept, focal, planet audio, eclipse and boss?

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Posted By: Big Purds
Date Posted: February 10, 2003 at 1:35 PM

Focal makes nice speakers...Concept is a decent name as well, and their big class D puts out good power, especially for the money...I like some of Eclipse's stuff, not so much the speakers or amps, but the Titanium sub line gets pretty loud while maintaining clean sound...I havent had a lot of experience with PA, but I do know that the Big Bang amps were pretty cool when they first came out...lotsa power there...and I would never ever waste a single penny on anything that had the Boss logo on it...under any circumstance...if it had Boss on it and that was all I could afford at the time, I would do without until I could save enough to purchase something better...

keep in mind that these are all personal opinions, and most are based on having firsthand experience in using the products myself...if anyone disagrees with me, thats not an issue for me, because we are all entitled to out own opinions...you have yours and I obviously have mine...dont hesitate to ask any other questions really, like I said before, I am not trying to pick you apart beerstud, but am trying to guide you...I am pretty sure you would notice a huge difference and be much happier just to go with Focals lowest PolyGlass line of speakers...they have great midbass and will far outperform the Ultimate speakers you have in your car now...other speaker lines to look at in the same quality range are MB Quart, a/d/s/, Rainbow, AVI, and Image Dynamics...all very nice sounding speakers, some are just a little different from others, and it depends on what music you listen to which might be better for you...





Posted By: SnomanF150
Date Posted: February 10, 2003 at 8:11 PM
oh boy.. a pissing contest!!!!

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George

David's Car Stereo

Baton Rouge, LA





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