trade secrets?
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Topic: trade secrets?
Posted By: usabuilt
Subject: trade secrets?
Date Posted: September 14, 2007 at 8:30 AM
Why would you guys wanna give away all your hard learned information, don't you realise it will put you otta business one day, or at least money out of your pocket and only helps the guys selling product over the internet?
Or guys "selling" banner space. Like this site.
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Posted By: KarTuneMan
Date Posted: September 14, 2007 at 9:01 AM
Why are you here? Do you need something? Or are you killing time? I myself have been in this business for nearly 20 years. I learn from this site every day. And I am thanfull for it. And I am more than happy to share the tiny bit of knowledge I might have to some poor guy struggling with a problem I might have struggled with only to find the answer from someone here..... Again.... why are you here? -------------
Posted By: usabuilt
Date Posted: September 14, 2007 at 9:23 AM
Well I am just here..why does it matter "why'? This industry (if you can call it that) is shrinking due to various factors..If it was a "trade only" forum, I would agree with you 100%..
And helping someone fix a flat tire is one thing, giving away your 20+ years of hard earned experience to someone who is buying products at cut throat prices to avoid having you make a profit is another..
I am all for helping someone who had a product installed and has a problem, but to help someone who purchased something somewhere else is not a smart move.
Posted By: kassdog
Date Posted: September 14, 2007 at 4:17 PM
I predict you will not be in this industry long because you sound like an ass
Posted By: tubbs04
Date Posted: September 16, 2007 at 4:14 PM
You know, I've been doing car stereo installation on the side for about 7 years, and b/c of this website and the wonderful people that are willings to share their information, I've probably trippled my knowledge in the past 6 mo or so. I'm much more confident when someone asks if I can do something... and I know if I do run into another problem, I can come back here and there will be someone that can help me. I for one love this site. ------------- ...don't crush the weasel...
Posted By: CapSS92
Date Posted: September 24, 2007 at 5:53 AM
I agree. Sharing information from the collective helps everyone out and I've always believed what goes around comes around. I do the same thing with the classic car sites I hang out at too.
Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: September 24, 2007 at 9:51 PM
Just because we give you the instructions and you have the ingredients to bake a cake..... doesn't mean that your a baker. Developing the skills and learning the ins and outs of the industry takes years if not decades.
I've been in the industry since I was 16 years old and I'm still learning about how to fiberglass in new ways and develop my other skills through the forums. Telling my secrets to someone will not make them an instant guru but it will help them in their current situation and if anything it will open their eyes to the fact that installation and custom work is not as easy as it seems.
You get what you pay for and years of experience will get you paid, where as hours of experience gets a cheap job done.
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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: techman93
Date Posted: September 25, 2007 at 11:05 PM
A thought of mine to add...
just because you have all the information doesn't mean you have the skill to use it and be an instant professional. Tricks and tips can get you so far, but actual hands on experience from years of setting up systems or security is where most skill comes from.
Posted By: supradude
Date Posted: October 01, 2007 at 11:34 AM
Information learned from this forum helps everybody, from beginners to professionals. I've yet to see a person that knows everything about everything. People need help from time to time. There are lots of knowledgeable people that will go out of their way to help you if you'll let them.
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'85 Toy
Posted By: elicoleman
Date Posted: October 03, 2007 at 12:10 AM
USABUILT states has been in the industry for 20+ years which probaly means he is a "baby boomer" where knowlege is power. Welcome to the 21st centry dude. You better get on board or the people of this site are going to take all of you business.
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2003 GMC Yukon, Kenwood 815DVD w/ Nav. Memphis speakers. Kenwood 1200W Amp, Alpine 400W amp. Rear view camera, headrest monitors. Parrot CK3100
Posted By: usabuilt
Date Posted: October 04, 2007 at 4:24 PM
I can walk away from this business at any time, it owes me nothing..I guess 99.99% of the population has no interest in installing anything in their car themself..I am just an old cranky fart sometimes..sorry if I offended anyone.
Posted By: djdowdell
Date Posted: November 18, 2007 at 1:50 AM
usabuilt wrote:
I can walk away from this business at any time, it owes me nothing..I guess 99.99% of the population has no interest in installing anything in their car themself..I am just an old cranky fart sometimes..sorry if I offended anyone.
I dont think u offended anyone its just your comment caught everyone off guard. I actually think that sharing info publicly helps the industry. U will never get rid of people who wanna do it themselves. I think that if u discourage them you drive them away from the industry all together. Heck, someone may see how to do something here and realize they dont have the skill set/tools/time to complete the task and need to seek out a pro. So it may actually gain you a few customers. Also alot of guys dont just sell install labor, they also sell product some of which is forbidden to be sold online and if u buy it there you get little to no warranty. But people got to install product and they gotta buy it somewhere, hence your local audio shop which is a lot quicker than UPS if they got what you need in stock. Think about it....if a customer buys product from you to install a head unit or speakers themselves and you were helpful and courteous they may come back to you for something as small as installing an amp because they dont have the time or something as large as custom work all because you helped! To quote Ben Oh, editor of Car Audio and Electronics: "We do what we can to help DIYers fight off the temptation to call in a professional. But when in doubt, we say get yourself to shop, or an install school." C.A.&E. Vol 20 No. 11 Nov. 2007. ------------- Pure Noize
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