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99 Altima, Avital 4103, no Start condition

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Topic: 99 Altima, Avital 4103, no Start condition

Posted By: twin051302
Subject: 99 Altima, Avital 4103, no Start condition
Date Posted: September 09, 2017 at 11:11 AM

Installed a few of these Avital units and this one is giving me a run for my $. Car will crank but wont start. Starts immediately with key...

Hers what is wired and where:

Main 9 pin:
Black - ground
White - Red/Bluw @ steering column

Door Lock 3 pin:
Blue - Purple @ smart control
Green - Gray @ smart control

Remote start 6 pin:
Red 1 - white and red @ Ign
Pink/white - not attached
Red 2 - White and red @ ign
Orange - not attached at this time as need to run acc relay. Just havent got to that point of install.
Purple - Bk/Yellow @ Ign
Pink - Bk/Red @ ign

Satellite harness - Not used

Remote Start harness:
Bk/white - grounded
Violet/white - wh/bk @ 6 pin Distributor
Brown - not attached
gray - hood pin switch




Replies:

Posted By: mgoetz74
Date Posted: September 09, 2017 at 1:21 PM
did you hook up the second starter? purple on the relay harness to a relay to the black/blue at the ignition harness




Posted By: twin051302
Date Posted: September 09, 2017 at 4:05 PM
On my wiring diagram from avital, they list the purple as main output to starter circuit which in my case splices into yellow black at ignition.
The output to 2nd Ignition/Accesory is pink/white which I dont have connected to anything currently.




Posted By: twin051302
Date Posted: September 09, 2017 at 4:36 PM
Mgoets74 thanks for sending me in the rite direction. I powered up the pink and white to blue and black at ign and she starts. Tomorrow I will try an figure out why the accessory wire needs a relay and how to wire that up. Probably overthinking it but currently doesnt make much sense.






Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: September 10, 2017 at 3:24 AM
Second starter wire?
Black/blue at ignition loom.

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Posted By: twin051302
Date Posted: September 10, 2017 at 3:47 PM
howie ll wrote:

Second starter wire?
Black/blue at ignition loom.


Yes, that is what it was. I also added the needed relay this am for the accessory lead. Job is complete thanks to folks like yourself and Mgoetz.

Much appreciated!!




Posted By: twin051302
Date Posted: September 10, 2017 at 3:59 PM
For anyone doing a 99 Altima in the future with an Avital system, here is what the final wiring looked like:

Main harness, 9 pin connector:
1. light green black - not used
2. Green/white - not used
3. yellow ignition output - Pin 86 on needed relay
4. white/blue - not used
5. orange - not used
6. brown - not used
7. red/white - not used
8. black - ground
9. white - red/blue @ steering column

Door lock, 3 pin connector
1. blue - purple @ smart control
2. empty
3. green - gray @ smart control

Remote start, 6 pin connector
1. red - white/red @ Ign
2. pink/white - bk/blue @ Ign
3. red - white/red @ Ign
4. orange - dash side of needed relay tied in with relay pin 30 as well as dash side of bk/pink wire @ ign harness.
5. purple - bk yellow @ ign
6. pink - bk/red @ ign

Satellite harness, 4 pin
1. blue - not used
2. orange - not used
3. purple - not used
4. pink - not used

Remote start harness, 5 pin
1. bk/white - neutral safety switch or ground (not recommended for safety reasons)
2. violet/white - wh/bk @ 6 pin connector on distributor
3. brown - red/gn @ brake pedal switch
4. Gray - hood pin switch
5. blue/white - not used




Main 9 pin:
Black - ground
White - Red/Bluw @ steering column
Door Lock 3 pin:
Blue - Purple @ smart control
Green - Gray @ smart control
Remote start 6 pin:
Red 1 - white and red @ Ign
Pink/white - not attached
Red 2 - White and red @ ign
Orange - not attached at this time as need to run acc relay. Just havent got to that point of install.
Purple - Bk/Yellow @ Ign
Pink - Bk/Red @ ign
Satellite harness - Not used
Remote Start harness:
Bk/white - grounded
Violet/white - wh/bk @ 6 pin Distributor
Brown - not attached
gray - hood pin switch




Posted By: twin051302
Date Posted: September 10, 2017 at 4:05 PM
Needed Accessory Relay wiring:

Pin 86 - Yellow wire #3 of main harness
Pin 87 - Fused 12V Constant
Pin 87A - bk/pink @ Ign
Pin 85 - Fused 12V COnstant
Pin 30 - bk pink @ ign (dash Side)


Bk/pink @ Ign must be cut in half. 87A goes to Ign/Key side. 30 goes to Bk Pink on dash side.

Orange #4 wire from 6 pin remote start connector will tie into bk/pink wire along with pin 30.





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