fixing dusty paint texture
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Forum Name: Fiberglass, Fabrication, and Interiors
Forum Discription: Fiberglass Kick Panels, Subwoofer Enclosures, Plexiglas, Fabrics, Materials, Finishes, etc.
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Printed Date: April 28, 2024 at 10:01 PM
Topic: fixing dusty paint texture
Posted By: grant2207
Subject: fixing dusty paint texture
Date Posted: August 01, 2008 at 12:08 PM
i am painting a fiberglass subwoofer enclosure. first layer (for stripping) is metalic green, second layer is gloss clearcoat for the stripes, third layer is flat black (over all masking of hte stripes), and the fourth layer will be a flat clearcoat.
my problem lies between coats 3 and 4... i applied 4 coats of flat black to the surface, and a half hour later applied a coat of clear coat. the clear coat left a dusty white look over the black.... a closer look showed that the black had a rougher texture, my guess being that dust got under one of the coats...
i was wondering if another couple heavier coats of black would fix this or if i need to sand it down... if anyone has any other fix suggestions that would be great....
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Posted By: twistedp
Date Posted: August 01, 2008 at 9:02 PM
does the look bother you or the texture? if the look bothers you, you will need to sand and respray both layers. what kind of paint are you using?
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Posted By: thunda_hawg
Date Posted: August 02, 2008 at 3:34 PM
sounds like your clear is not set up for the temp range that your in (too hot) your gun is gummed up and not atomizeing properly. try not to tack and whack the clear and use a medium temp catalyst
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89' 240sx
Rockford t8004
boston z6 comp.
eclipse 3432
polk MM 8"
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Posted By: thunda_hawg
Date Posted: August 02, 2008 at 3:42 PM
this is based on using urethane two stage paints> (I use auto air color with HoK inter-coat clears for effects and candies , then transtar euro for the final clearcoat usually) ------------- 89' 240sx
Rockford t8004
boston z6 comp.
eclipse 3432
polk MM 8"
Taylor owes Joe a Sandwich
Posted By: grant2207
Date Posted: August 02, 2008 at 5:37 PM
i think it was over all the heat. the dusty texture may have caused the collecting but the heat caused the color. i sanded it down with 600 grit dry to get it smooth and then clear coated it out of the sun and on a day with a nice breeze. it turned out much better, with no more white sandy dust stuff on it.
Posted By: grant2207
Date Posted: August 02, 2008 at 8:04 PM
i found the best way to do it...the clear coat is just stupid over all....u just need to load really heavy coats on....like glaze it..... i was afraid originaly of wrinkling but it doesnt at all...it just goes on thick. it smoothed out all sandy spots too....th eonly problem is that i have ran out of paint again....and that doodie is 5 dollars a can! two cans so far.....
Posted By: jayson33
Date Posted: August 22, 2008 at 1:51 AM
Canned spray paints are for grafaitti artist Its cheaper to buy good paint like Deupont you will get alot better depth in color and far better mirror like finish. As an end result P.S. House of Kolor paints.....can you say crayloa water colors ------------- My wife thinks bagging a truck means you kick it in the truck nuts
Posted By: thunda_hawg
Date Posted: August 22, 2008 at 8:29 AM
crayola? not sure what you mean. ------------- 89' 240sx
Rockford t8004
boston z6 comp.
eclipse 3432
polk MM 8"
Taylor owes Joe a Sandwich
Posted By: jayson33
Date Posted: August 22, 2008 at 9:08 AM
thunda_hawg wrote:
crayola? not sure what you mean.
It's a joke...lol its very over priced auto paint you would get same results usin' crayola water paints ------------- My wife thinks bagging a truck means you kick it in the truck nuts
Posted By: thunda_hawg
Date Posted: August 22, 2008 at 11:09 AM
oh i see . definately when you talk colors and clears . I use the intercoat which was pretty cheap like maybe 20/qt is pretty much where i leave it with HoK. I like using auto air and sherwin for base and transtar for clears. HoK intercoats dont have UV protection so you can do effects like chrome and glow in the dark without sacrificing the light reflectionand absorbtion properties. probably why its so cheap. last I heard Hok wasnt all that expensive anymore. Dupont is also a good choice if our just shooting a single color/single stage. their "hot hues" are kinda cool too. ------------- 89' 240sx
Rockford t8004
boston z6 comp.
eclipse 3432
polk MM 8"
Taylor owes Joe a Sandwich
Posted By: jayson33
Date Posted: August 22, 2008 at 7:53 PM
It depends what type of Dupont paint they have many types acrylic lacquer,acrylic enamel,polyurethane,acrylic urethane enamel they also have basecoat/clearcoat systems but they do not make any candied colors. Kirker makes some great exotic paint colors in pearls,flake in differnt size,and candies price about 60-110$/gallon ------------- My wife thinks bagging a truck means you kick it in the truck nuts
Posted By: thunda_hawg
Date Posted: August 23, 2008 at 3:11 PM
I usually use just there single stge poly for frames and engine bays for the most part . hot hues is dupont's "exotic" paint that includes flakes and candies that mix with there intercoat clears. ------------- 89' 240sx
Rockford t8004
boston z6 comp.
eclipse 3432
polk MM 8"
Taylor owes Joe a Sandwich
Posted By: jayson33
Date Posted: August 23, 2008 at 11:24 PM
Have not used it I will have to check it out . You dont powder coat your frames I have not found a paint that can take the abuse (rocks,roadsalt) Unless its a trailer queen then paint would no problem
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My wife thinks bagging a truck means you kick it in the truck nuts
Posted By: thunda_hawg
Date Posted: August 24, 2008 at 9:24 AM
usually single stage urethane is pretty good against chips and especially salt/solvents. ihavent had aproblem with it so far. I prefer powder coating , but urethane is hardy enough for the task most of the time. most my cars have skid plates anywayz
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89' 240sx
Rockford t8004
boston z6 comp.
eclipse 3432
polk MM 8"
Taylor owes Joe a Sandwich
Posted By: thunda_hawg
Date Posted: August 24, 2008 at 9:29 AM
but of course preparation of the surface/substrate is always key
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89' 240sx
Rockford t8004
boston z6 comp.
eclipse 3432
polk MM 8"
Taylor owes Joe a Sandwich
Posted By: thunda_hawg
Date Posted: August 24, 2008 at 9:37 AM
another option would be auto air by itself with transparent sealer from auto air. that doesnt peel off like urethane so its easy to manage scrape. however powdercoating is superior for most applications . but it can scrape off if hit hard enough.
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89' 240sx
Rockford t8004
boston z6 comp.
eclipse 3432
polk MM 8"
Taylor owes Joe a Sandwich
Posted By: jayson33
Date Posted: August 24, 2008 at 10:40 PM
thunda_hawg wrote:
but of course preparation of the surface/substrate is always key
Prep. work is 100% It does not matter how good you or your equipment is your painted surface will only be as good the prep. surface ------------- My wife thinks bagging a truck means you kick it in the truck nuts
Posted By: grant2207
Date Posted: August 25, 2008 at 10:22 AM
jayson33 wrote:
Canned spray paints are for grafaitti artist Its cheaper to buy good paint like Deupont you will get alot better depth in color and far better mirror like finish. As an end result P.S. House of Kolor paints.....can you say crayloa water colors
Yeah, i would have loved to use a proffesional airbrush kit...ive got the compressors and i think my dad even has a gravity feed sprayer....but i dont have the facilities..im doing this in my garage and there is alot of valuable stuff that i cant risk getting overspray on. and overspray outside in my backyard with a pro airbrush would be huge...and my nieghbors might no like that....
Posted By: jayson33
Date Posted: August 25, 2008 at 9:33 PM
grant2207 wrote:
jayson33 wrote:
Canned spray paints are for grafaitti artist Its cheaper to buy good paint like Deupont you will get alot better depth in color and far better mirror like finish. As an end result P.S. House of Kolor paints.....can you say crayloa water colors
Yeah, i would have loved to use a proffesional airbrush kit...ive got the compressors and i think my dad even has a gravity feed sprayer....but i dont have the facilities..im doing this in my garage and there is alot of valuable stuff that i cant risk getting overspray on. and overspray outside in my backyard with a pro airbrush would be huge...and my nieghbors might no like that....
You can get HVLP paint gun very cheap will work fine for trim parts ect. dont paint a car with it. it only runs about 15-25 psi very little over spray . A gravity feed HVLP try it some time you will stop usein' the can ------------- My wife thinks bagging a truck means you kick it in the truck nuts
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