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Topic: how would i imitate this?

Posted By: 93_civic
Subject: how would i imitate this?
Date Posted: March 11, 2009 at 6:26 PM

sorry if this is in the wrong place but i didnt see anywhere else to put it. anyways, ever since i got my civic i've wanted to fill in the trim on the outside to give it a clean, smooth look. i found this picture of what im trying to do, theres also a stock picture if you dont know what im talking about. but i was wondering if someone could tell me how this was done, was it just fiberglassed?

thanks in advance!!! :)

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Posted By: wiringfool
Date Posted: March 11, 2009 at 9:54 PM
Well from what I see it's a fairly tricked out ride I don't have all the answers, but some sheet stock ,some body tools,welder and some major time, would be nice to see the finished product with lots of pics along the way.Good luck and have fun doing it and many koodos git er done looks like fun! low ridin hondamobile 

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Posted By: 93_civic
Date Posted: March 11, 2009 at 10:46 PM
im not trying to go nearly as far as that car looks, but its the closest picture i could find of what im trying to do. im trying to get rid of the black trim on the doors of the stock photo, to look like the one in the second picture.




Posted By: matt_993
Date Posted: March 12, 2009 at 4:09 PM
it takes some time but you can just remove the black trim pieces and fill with Bondo. it takes alot of time tho... sanding down the paint, then filling, then sanding the bondo, then priming, and painting. be prepared for alot of finish work. any book store should have an automotive section that will take you step by step through basic body work.

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Posted By: ca$ino
Date Posted: March 19, 2009 at 3:00 PM
i agree

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Posted By: airhed692005
Date Posted: March 21, 2009 at 11:30 PM
Well one way to make it faster for the sanding of the paint is to get this stripper called AIRCRAFT Stripper us it all the time to take paint off to do custom work on cars. It takes the paint,primer all the way down to the bare metal. That will help you out a little on the sanding part.

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Posted By: dwofford
Date Posted: March 22, 2009 at 9:17 PM
i wouldn't use bondo  it will be too think and too heavy you should cut strips of sheet metal that fits in the indetion and weld it in and grind smooth it is fairly difficult and very time consuming to do it right. Be carful not to heat the metal up to much, the metal is very thin and will warp easily and then will look wavy when finished.    spread a thin layer of bondo over it to finish the look.  the concept is the same as shving handels if you have ever done this or seen it done if not you can probably find lots of how to's on shaving handles.  I definatly would not fill it full of bondo cause it will fall off within a year from vibrations.




Posted By: airhed692005
Date Posted: March 23, 2009 at 12:11 AM
I agree with dwofford with the bondo. But on the other hand fiberglass the holes and using some light weight body filler and then painting will last the life of the car "IF DONE RIGHT". Lot of body shops do this for small dents and things. Looks good after done and it should hold up to vibrations.

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Ronald Bailey Owner/ Installer of VIBRATION CUSTUM SOUNDS. CUSTOM BOX DESIGNER AND BUILDER
TID-896 7" screen,Amp-BX1206d
4/0power/ground cables
4-12 mofos 12ft3 box tuned 40hz DB:163.1




Posted By: dwofford
Date Posted: March 23, 2009 at 5:46 PM
i used to have a civic and that indention is not small at all, its about a 1/2" deep and yes body shops do this for small dents if you do choose to go this route i would defenatly get it down to bare metal and spray some very course primer for good adhesion.and i would leave the holes so the bodo has something else to hold on too.  But i don't sugest this at all.




Posted By: dwofford
Date Posted: March 23, 2009 at 5:50 PM




Posted By: rxsilvia
Date Posted: May 06, 2009 at 2:42 AM
If you're talking about shaving the door handles and stuff off then im pretty sure you need to motorise the doors or something rather not too sure..posted_image




Posted By: dwofford
Date Posted: May 10, 2009 at 9:02 PM
i didnt put the link on there to shave the handles butthe proccess is the same to shave the trim




Posted By: lil evo
Date Posted: May 17, 2009 at 8:30 PM

wow......was somebody serious when they built that?





Posted By: eric123
Date Posted: June 05, 2009 at 2:22 AM
This isn't to hard of a project. I did the same thing on my accord. The way I would recommend would be to use sheet metal and weld strips. I don't know about using fiberglass and how well it will stand up to the door being slammed open and closed. A couple of things I learned when doing my doors was that you need to tack weld very slowly. Because the door panels are curved applying to much heat from your welder all at once will cause the door panel to warp, and pop in. It's a difficult fix posted_image. Tack 6 inches apart and let cool. Then tack the center of these tacks and let cool. Then tack the center or these. Grind down your tacks nice and smooth, and thing layer or body fill, sand and paint. Depending on the car you may run into an issue like I did where your door won't be able to open without hitting the fender, and your back door without rubbing on the body. To fix this you need to notch the steel on the fender and the body when filling the trim in on these locations.




Posted By: eric123
Date Posted: June 05, 2009 at 2:31 AM
Edit*

The back door will rub on the front door, not the body.




Posted By: 93_civic
Date Posted: June 05, 2009 at 3:01 PM
hey thanks alot eric123 that was very helpful and imformative! posted_image




Posted By: johnnyhenry
Date Posted: September 02, 2009 at 9:47 PM
where i work we do body kits like this all the time. all it is is a body kit possibly a couple different pieces from different kits with fender flares and everything is fiberglassed together where you dont see one begin and the other end. not recommended cause at one point or another ur gunna curb check either the rear bumper or the front bumper and break it and when there glassed together makes way more damage




Posted By: blackcivichatch
Date Posted: September 25, 2009 at 12:06 PM
Get It down to bare metal. Rough if up with some low grit paper. Drill some small holes for the fiberglass to stick to. When laid properly, fiberglass Will flex. Tell your people not to slam the door and you'll be jus fine

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Posted By: d_rock_81
Date Posted: September 25, 2009 at 12:38 PM
do not fiberglass it. weld in patch panels slowly. tack them in then tack at 1" intervals all around then tack next to the tacks all around and keep moving like that. basically your going to weld the whole thing with tack welds moving around the panel so as not to warp it with heat. same when you grind the welds down, don't hold the grinder over the same spot. heat will build up and the panel will warp. just take your time.

Fiberglass will not hold up. if you "drill holes for the fiberglass to stick to" moisture will get to the back of it causing it to fail. "Fiberglas is flexible" paint is not without an additive that is used when painting plastic parts, you will need body filler and with fiberglass as a backing unit it will crack.



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