Printer Friendly Forum Posts - Glassing Pics, Opinions Needed

Hey everyone, alright so me and my buddy mike have been working on my stang project for some time. It consists of the back seats, center console and trunk. We have been doing custom boxes for people but have now dipped into the real deal of fiberglassing. Here are some pics currently of the trunk molded and started to be Bondo'd and some pics of the back seat mold and ready to be clothed...

Ok so these are some pics. Also any suggestions on how to make it smoother. Obviously we need to wait till the bondo dries then sand then at least another coat, but any other easier option. As well we are thinking about just fiberglass resin'ing the back seat cloth and then bondo'ing over that. What are the thoughts and suggestions on that. Thanks

wow, looks like someone took a dump in ur trunk, but thats what bondo looks like w/o sanding lol. Looks alright, I was gona say where's the box reinforcments but I see the actual subs will be housed by an MDF box so its all good. To get it smoother your gona have to sand, sand, sand and then sand some more filling in chips and pits as you go. If you get some high build primer it will fill out those little dimples from the FG. As for the back seat.... I cant see anything in the pics but I think glassing it with a layer or 2 will do since its not being subjected to massive stress, then bondo and finish.

Looks good though, comming along nice

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buy an angle grinder <--- mask off the interior of your car, make sure to wear a respirator, and clear you schedule.

All I can say is wow.

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i would jump overboard on that one, but if you sand enough, it will probably look good, a good dremel tool or a grinder would be a good idea for starting the sanding though

How many layers of fiberglass before you threw all the long strand on it?

I dunno if you have much experience with sanding, but for a lot of that, like mentioned above, get yourself an angle grider, or a high speed rotary sander, and tear that crap down with some 40 grit. Then you have a whole crap load of bondo sand, bondo, sand, bondo, sand.. etc.....

For all the round holes, and some edges, a dremel, or even a detail sander, will become your best friend.

Yes we know that we have to sand it. We ave a 3D Sander to use for that, but like i said the bondo was just started os slowly moving along. What can i do about the back seat though with the back seat and just resining the cloth or actually laying fiberglass on it. Thanks

how thick did you layer it at once?..... i usually just skim coat till it's above the finish i want then sand to that level.... It looks like you emptied a cement truck of bondo into your trunk........ :)

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no well first off that's a night shot, second off it is to cover the actual glass once sanded will look molded better but also there weren't flush pieces of fiberglass one against the other so had to fill that.

Looking at image ce6c187e.jpg I am wondering is this car going to be converted to a two-seater.

Are you able to remove the mold to work on it outside the car?

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First off yes the car is being into a two seater, ,There will be two nitrous bottles molded behind teh rear seat. And iam molding it against all the paneling so it will actually get done in there.

my opinion is quit and start over

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what!?!?! you want some??

Did you sand the glass before you applied bondo? posted_image It looks like you have alot work ahead of you. good luck can't wait to see the final product.

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"Looking at image ce6c187e.jpg I am wondering is this car going to be converted to a two-seater."

That's the hot seat.

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I seriously dont see it. I would start over like kicker said because i bet if u started over and didnt put on as much stuff and all u would actually save time and def save frustration

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dream it, build it, fiberglass it

that's the messiest bondo job i've ever seen. Def start over and do it right the second time. It will save you ALOT of work and frustration.

how thick can you lay that bondo?... i use a couple different brands for different puposes.... the thickest i can go wityh any of them is 1/4". It just looks like you mixed the whole can and poured it in.

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i think you should have started out with something smaller and then work your way to the point u have glassing mastered. I would rip that sh*t out and start over there is a year worth of sanding on that box it's not worth it start over read some fourms and get a better idea of how to do it......................

Thanks guys but i already have done some small deals, but in anycase i'll take some progress pictures and then you guys can comment on what you think, but what i did want to know is do you use fiberglass mat, cause i see alot being smooth as the cloth and then bondo'd. Thanks

check this site it will help u out https://web.njit.edu/~cas1383/glassing2/

WOW....
Looks like you're using bondo to build the enclosure and not to smooth it out....

nice concept i guess, but let me tell you you went way too overboard with the bondo. if you glassed everything right, you shoulda just had to fill some little pits that the fleece have, not take a cement bucket and tip it upside down. all i gotta say is i hope that you can figure it out. glassing isnt hard at all, just a little time consuming. that trunk, is just scary. good luck, and good luck to whoever gets an enclosure built by you and your friend.

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wow!!!! it looks like its from a bayou.

check out jeff's (velocitymotorsport) DIY

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for alott better of a looking and easier to do job i would have suggested to make a template outside of the ehicle and the fiberglass that and slid it into the trunk and seal it.

yes that is alott more work and more money on supplies but it would be alott better then doing it directly in the trunk and having to sand soo much inside the vehicle where i bet u wont get all of it. so for future progects id suggest doing it that way .

mark

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Thanks alot guys well here is another somewhat recent pictures. I know there were alot of insults about it but here is how it is looking now....

https://img17.photobucket.com/albums/v51/wht94stang/eb107b66.jpg

https://img17.photobucket.com/albums/v51/wht94stang/65cb02b2.jpg

https://img17.photobucket.com/albums/v51/wht94stang/e12db93f.jpg

https://img17.photobucket.com/albums/v51/wht94stang/bbfa9621.jpg

Now let me know what u think.....Thanks

I'm begging you, cut your losses and start over. Read up on how to do things correctly.

Nah since u built it into the trunk its really hard to start over now

just do the best you can with what you have for now, its getting there but u have created alott more work for yourself. next time just make a mold and then place it in the trunk or wherever!! but it is starting to look better !! im assuming you are gonna wanna paint it or vynal it right??

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Yea it's goin to be primered and painted high gloss black. It is definitely getting there if you ask me, it looks bette rnow but slow but steady process. Anycase the only real problem for the trunk was actually us using the matte. Which obviously isn't the best deal then just resin and hardner wiht cloth. But now with that down things are goin alot better, that's why it looks messy in the turnk.

yea well just keep doin what you are doing and try to make it as smooth as u can with body filler and alotta sanding!!! once you add primer you will notice all the minor errors but its just a quick coat of body fill into those cracks..

i have just redesigned my front bumper on my 1993 honda delsol and am gonna design my trunk to fit my air ride system 2 5 gal tanks 2 chrome compressors 8 valves and a second battery and i have to make it so i can still put my roof in the trunk so there is gonna be alotta designing for me hahaha

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Well good luck with that let me know the design. Sounds lik ea fun project, i just glassed my doors and waitin for other nitrous bottle. Good luck

yea thanks alott haha it will be funn that for sure
hey u want a nice air ride kit or something for your car i sell all aftermarket parts most of which are not listed on my site yet but check out www.streetstorm.com

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anymore updated pics yet?

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Kinda interesting. Looks like you put a lot of effort into it. posted_image

In the end what matters is how it looks and sounds, no one ever asked DaVinci what brush strokes he used to paint The Mona Lisa. In all fairness, however, there are easier means to accomplish the same ends, but to each their own. posted_image

I, personally, would use West system epoxy and microballoons. Useing the epoxy/microballoon combo. will allow you to controll the consistancy of the product, ie. more balloons for a thicker mix/larger gaps. I have never used " bondo " but I believe that the properties of the above are similar. For the final sanding I would use a glazing compound.

Stormshadow

Hm...I sure hope this isn't a customers car. They are going to be pissed. I don't know if someone has stated the purpose of bondo on this post yet, it not-the purpose of Bondo is fo fill in the pits, and valleys of the fiberglass. It kind of look like you went out and bought 200 dollars worth of bondo and just start dumping it into the trunk. I don't know if that is fixable or not. If it is fixable it still will probably look pretty bad...sorry

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wht94stang, is this your personal ride? I know this is your 1st attempt which I have never built a fiberglass box before, but I started one yesterday. But I am not sure you are going about doing the system the right way. Did you plan before your started your box? Just curious.

Will you ever be able to remove the box? I know at some point and time you will have to change one of your tail lights. Also, did you consider the additional weight that will be added by all of that bondo. Just a little something to ponder on... Not trying to be funny just wanted to know.

I have never in my life seen anything like this but good thing your running giggle gas cause you'll need it just to push around all the excess weight....a word of advice before you attempt another project research what your doing and do it right the first time.

p.s. I'm going to nominate you for the national darwen awards

Whitestang post some new pics im eager to see what uve done with it, its been awhile.

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dream it, build it, fiberglass it

Is that trunk work removable ?

There are many ways to do what you want to do that will be way quicker then what your doing.

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How would that be then, I would appreciate it, the trunk is still the way it is but smooth now, ust installed the purge into the fenders, and cut out the hood, and going to attempt molding on the body kit, if anyone has any suggestions about that as well. Thansk

Yo Hzemall,

That site... that all of your installs?

casedeez wrote:

Yo Hzemall,
That site... that all of your installs?

Mostly, there are a couple that my installers did on their own other then they they are my creations or me and my installers creations.

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Looks good. Just be patient. After filling with what ever you choose I can recommend a light weight bodyfiller after the last glassing. It will fill in all the tiny pits. Then you can gel.

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do you realize the car is gonna need major suspension work??!!

if you dont want to spend another 300 bucks on sand paper, go get yourself some fleese and resin and go over what youve done already. if done right you might be able to finish it this year. and as far as the body kit. maybe ya might want to finish one project on the car before you go any farther?

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It looks like you just need a little more info on building fiberglass enclosures. The next step in my opinion is to remove everything by any means that you've done. After that rethink your current project.

I was once in your shoes. I used bondo way too often and I actually thought the 3d sander was good it's a piece of crap. Now, all my projects begin in the back of the enclosure. Mask everthing in you're car that is going to be covered with masking tape. I suggest you make your enclosure removable. after you mask everything, have precut pieces of fiberglass mat ready. mix your fiberglass resin and spread a healthy coat directly on the masking tape. Then, wearing gloves apply the mat pieces with your left hand while "stabbing" them with a brush full of resin. You want a really strong backing for any enclosure. Don't be afraid to overlap the edges. after it dries, mark the line you want around the edge and cut it off using dremel, angle grinder, or my favorite drywall saw. This is how you seriously start a strong fiberglass enclosure. I've spent a lot of money messing up so you can trust my opinion and instruction.

I can't type the story of fiberglass, but if you do take my advice and restart using my method. Reply back here and I can help you finish your project as will everyone else on here.

The best tip I can give is to draw your idea and post it up here, that way based on peoples reaction you can tell the difficulty of building and wether it will be functional or not.

Also, about your molding the body kit.

Don't do it unless you're 100% sure you will not drive this on a daily basis and is clear of any mechanical defects. If you wish to do performance mods finish all before molding the kit.

I've molded 2 kits since I've started and the only reason I did was because the front and rear bumpers did not line up. Personally I mold all side skirts because it's a small job and it looks much better than those nasty looking lines.

I think the people here are being nice just to be nice. I'll be blunt, it looks like total $hit. I'm sure 90% of the people here agree with it, but just aren't blunt enough to come out and say it.

Take that bondo out, and let a pro do it. Your doing more harm then good.

finally someone agrees with me. i thought it was a joke the first time i saw it but he kept posting messages like he was proud of it. its amazing how dumb people really are

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mikedawg wrote:

finally someone agrees with me. i thought it was a joke the first time i saw it but he kept posting messages like he was proud of it. its amazing how dumb people really are

I agree. I mean, out of all the posts, 99% of the people are beating around the bush by saying it doesnt look good instead of saying "dude, it looks like crap", but he thinks it looks good. I don't really think he's "dumb", but I do think he's lacking some common sense.

When I made my fiberglass box, I asked for help and ideas BEFORE I started. He's asking for help after he pours gallons of bondo in his trunk. Now after seeing his bondo work, he wants to attempt to make body kits? lol

He posted here wanting peoples opinions, and I think it's only right we should be blunt and say it how it is.

yup. we all did our first box, but honestly did yours look like that. i know mine sure didnt. i almost got sick to my damn stomach seeing that picture. its funny but sad. the thing that scares me is he works at best buy. look at his profile. customers cars are susceptable to his "cusomizations".

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EEEEEE GAHD!!! in the future, i see him cutting holes in it to change light bulbs, get to the top bolts for his rear suspension, , and other important stuff there. Looks a lil to late to start over.... Almost looks like a cement "car",,,something you would see on Monster Garage haha

On my first fiberglass attempt, i spend 5 hours reading and looking at all of the pictures on the Alpine Demo Cars shown on the site. after that, i had a crap load of knowledge going in. I build a 10" sub enclosure into the back trunk corner of my moms 99 vw jetta, i used NO bondo at all, , just took lots of time in the glassing process, , and about $20 in paint brushes later i was done. Totally removeable, , take out the sub, , then 4 screws in the enclosure, , and you can change the light bulbs.

Guy , definately check out www.alpine-usa.com and look up there demo cars, ,see how they built them, , you will get a clear image. but please don't buy any alpine, , sony should do the job for you.

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I don't know about yall but I think this is all a big joke. It has to be...hopefully.. hahahaha

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AlpineGuy, I was confused about your sony joke at first, but I got it now. Hilarious!!!

hahahaahahahahaha. yeah i get the joke too. but sony might be too good for him too. anyways i dont see any type of sub fitting in those eye shaped holes.diameter or depth. and how many damn speakers does he plan to put in there? every time i see a pic i count 4 more holes. in the future i see a car fire. that thing is a damn deathtrap.

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I just hope bondo boys knows more about Nitrous than he does fiberglass. Anyone else notice the spiderweb of wires under the outhouse seats in the back? If anybody pulls up next to a white mustang with the back end dragin' watch out cause he may blow your A$$ up.

Hey guys, try to keep the language within reason here ( had to delete one post here already with questionable comments ). I know this member's project is at a loss for words, but try to keep the words that you do use respectful and also keep in mind the forum rules when responding.

Thanks.

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oh so thats were i puked last weekend in the bar parking lot posted_image

sieriously that has to be a joke.i mean come on dude its bad enough you own a ford product dont do anything else to your car. save the money you spend on bondo up and pay to have an installer build you a custom inclosure and furthermore why are you putting all that weight back there if you want to race most people remove weightt from the chassis to race.so i would say make a descision iether all system no performance or smaller scale system more performance.i just built my first fiberglass sub encloser a few weeks ago i have an 87accord i built a wheel well enclosure with the subs hardely taking up any trunk space. they face the seat but angle up towerds two ports in the rear dash it kinda looks like a big pair of cartoon tittys but it sounds better then any mdf box ive ever biult. and i learned how to do the glasswork here and had a little tip or two from an old boat repair guy.dude i am so proud of my box now that ive seen this thread hehe. man i dont normally flame but i thnk you need to ventilate the work area when you glass next time cause you had to be high to do that to your trunk.i hope you already payed that thing off if not you might wanna stop paying them and let em repo it i say start over on the whole car.otherwise you have a lot of removal work to do i say get a jackhammer after it.well mustang guy you got us all goin so lets get some more pics up here i wanna see how much youve taken out.

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love the flames.apair of aw1251t subs 75 watt rms flame amp eq/linedriver clarion h.u.the rest is temporary untill i can afford the rest of the system.

You guys are brutal, but funny. Obviously everyone thinks they should start over, even me, and I'm just about to start my first project. They've probably already put about $400 worth of bondo and glass in the trunk, so they don't want to waste all that money. If they want to decrease their gas mileage by half and ruin their suspension, let them. They'll learn from their mistakes. Maybe they can get their car accepted by MTV on "Pimp My Ride". The guys at West Coast Customz will just get a big power saw and cut the trunk off so they can weld on a new one.

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yeah the pimp my ride thing is kinda stupid. i doubt those are even real cars that people own. and what the heck were they thinking with that hood scoop on the crx.

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Don't get me started on West Coast Customs, the only good thing aboutt them is their paint guy and the interior guy. Who needs an accessory guy. BUBBLES???? what about the giovanna, personally i'm sick of chrome. Themes suck when you're using things like Yoga and Photography as your basis for design. The CRX was an 87 that's the year before anything good could be done to it. Obviously MTV doesn't know sh*t about designing car because those are easily some of the crapiest "PIMPED" rides I've ever seen.

True true but also take note that they have a rapper... who knows nothing of how a car is actually customized... hosting the show, go figure. All Xzibit (cant even't spell the guys name) knows about car customization is if the record company spends X amount of dollars he can ride around in an escalade with 24" spinners for a day.

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dude they put lava lamps in the rear dash of a bug wtf that was the only episode ive seen thank god. i watch overhaulin foose is like a mad scientist. posted_image

dude the smileies on this forum suck i normally hang out at 3geez,com we got rice smilies and chainsaw wielding smilies and all kinds of sh*t.any ways if pimp my ride got ahold of that stang even they could improve it. sorry stang i dont want to be a dick but posting those pics up here was like stepping in front of a greyhound bus and as near as i can tell you have not posted here in a long time so it must have hit you.

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love the flames.apair of aw1251t subs 75 watt rms flame amp eq/linedriver clarion h.u.the rest is temporary untill i can afford the rest of the system.

lol, funny. i thought the same thing about stang. ill have to check out that 3geez thing. theres a couple of a..holes on here that act like they know everything and dont wanna hear anybody elses opinions.

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OK i agree on that all the cars suck on WWC show and that XZibit doesnt know sheet about customizing and that using themes is the stupidest thing in the world BUT im SURE those guys could do and have done better customizing jobs than anyone here has done or can do. Im sure off the show they turn out some of the hottest cars in california. But they do have a show and need people not like us that know about customizing to watch the show and think OMG a fish tank when we look at it and think WTF. But ya WHTmustang, just stop the project man.

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lol hahahaha. whtstang may need a tissue. poor guy. anyway i did see some stuff from wcc that were pretty damn good. it helps to have a revolving door of famous people with fat wallets needing stereos and paint jobs.

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it was on an episode of "Rides" pretty nice stuff

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Yeah West Coast can do things. They can reupholster a car very nicely, but in a sh*ty color. They can put 17 in chrome no dish giovannas on a 60 something mustang, tacky. The point is they have no taste. How many people does it take to DESIGN a car. All the cars they put out are muts. the opinion of 10 different guys in one car. Also, all there famous people get seude interiors and monitors. yeah! how original. Don't forget the giovannas

Umm i feel sry for the poor mustang.... a car shouldnt go threw that kind of stuff

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OH MY (insert deity of choice)!!! That is the best theft deterrent I have ever seen! I mean who would steal this car and spend the next week taking that crap out of the back? If it was me I would have started on something a little smaller until I have the skill to tackele something like a trunk? wht94stang you get an "A" for enthusiasm.

lol lol, yeah he seems pretty proud of it.

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i still want to see more pictures...

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i bet he left the12volt lol. i dont think were ognna get ne more pics.

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dream it, build it, fiberglass it

thank god. i kinda want to see more pics but my stomach turned when i saw the first pics. so i think its for the better

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I think he was trying to do a grand canyon theme in his car, pretty cool. LMAO

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The Clear Bra Guy
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my suggestion is learn to do it the right way.

Please, more pictures!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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davedyer79

Looks like my toilet after eating chilly

Actually, those pic's may be the most useful ones that I have ever seen, no I'm not joking. I printed them out and have them hanging on my wall, a constant reminder of what can happen to my projects if I don't do my homework. posted_image

Stormshadow

i can not believe what this guy has done to his car.

is it just me or does it look like bondo laid over straight fg mat?....as in SANS RESIN?

its not just you man. what do you think about the paper towel roll ports? lol

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Did U clean all the dog food out of your trunk yet?

guys, be nice, we need more pics hahaha

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more pics

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How much do you guys reckon whtstang's mess up cost.

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Light and fast

idontknow, a 94 stang in reasonable condition is probly worth around the $3000 mark.

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yeah..im guessing its a crapload of damage. I really want to see more pics..maybe he got it all straightened out posted_image

I def want a conclusion..this thread eats at me

yup,me too. Hey pimp, send me an e-mail @ jjonah@cogeco.ca

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Wow, there is a thread that is longer then the gentex mirror thread in the misc forum. Who would have thought?

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I've been sick lately, sorry I won't be on much.

i'm gonna mess up a car real bad and see if i can beat this record...... i want to get flamed in all directions.

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I seem to recall a mini truck?

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Certified Security Specialist
Always check info with a digital multimeter.
I promise to be good.
Tell Darwin I sent you.

I've been sick lately, sorry I won't be on much.

I'm so anxious to see some more pics as well as you other "folk"

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~The Rookie~
Rookie of the year that is...
Don't let the smoke out of your equiptment..it doesn't go back in.

hey. the s-10 is prime now, finished bodywork, put 18's all around, draggin frame

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Well, bondo is out for the next project. I say 2 part foam, neon, and particle board.

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Certified Security Specialist
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don't quit your day job wtf? thats why they make rehabs

I was just talking to wht94stang and he said he will post more pics when he is doen with his car, and that he has been working on the bodykit and supercharger right now!

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custom tell him to post pics next time you talk to him!! lol posted_image

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He just gave me some: https://kitzandmore.com/gallery/richstang.htm He said the interior hasn't been the most important thing until all the materials came in...

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RICE!! lol... I dont think I like the crazy wing on the back... lol... I like the more CLEAN look. oh well, to each his own.

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wow, this topic is still up? Cant believe you guys didn't like the bondo box. And now your making fun of his Katan style wing. Thats to give him lift so he can move with 800lbs of bondo in the trunk.

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