Bodykit molding
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Forum Name: Fiberglass, Fabrication, and Interiors
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Printed Date: May 11, 2024 at 11:18 AM
Topic: Bodykit molding
Posted By: xtreamcc
Subject: Bodykit molding
Date Posted: May 30, 2004 at 11:03 AM
Ok, me and a friend was to makr a body kit for his car. They dont make one for his year car anymore so were going to attempt to custom make it. I know alot about fiberglassing, I've just only attempted a bodykit once before and it was on an old Saturn SL1 and didn't come out that great so I just want some opionions about how to go about making the initial mold for the kit. Any suggestions or tips would be helpful.
Oh, and I was looking on selectproducts.com and saw this wonder foam stuff, is that for molding? Anyway, any info would be great. Peace
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Posted By: audiomechanic
Date Posted: May 30, 2004 at 4:39 PM
that is what the foam is for. but if i remember correctly, it comes in small blocks.
you can go and get floral foam to do the same thing.
if you want to spend the money, you can get foam sheets and carrve them in the shape you want. or you can get 2 part foam and make itno sheets then carve it out.
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Posted By: mikedawg
Date Posted: June 04, 2004 at 11:05 AM
im molding a body kit for my neon. i find that filling a gap with great stuff works good. youll have to get creative if you have voids in the kit where it doesnt match up at all. youll do a great job if you got patience.
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Posted By: suicide
Date Posted: June 04, 2004 at 11:14 AM
ok i'v been trhough this... to create ur body kit out of a mold.. find any foam that wont shrink when heat is applies. [Resin + Hardner = HEAT!!] to physicaly mold the kit to ur care i.e [fender to bumper] [ rear bumper to rear quarter] simple steps... METAL IS UR BEST FRIEND... Fiber glasss loves metal.. and vise versa if u want ur rear bumper molded on.. simply take a peice of metal thin strip .. screw/rivit it to the top of ur bumpper.. then grind the rivets/screws down.. weld the strip that is now attached to ur bumper to ur rear end of ur car.. grind then fiberglass matt/// then bondo.. if u want to attach two fiberglass items to gether.. strongest method.. is to rivit a peice of metal that conects both fiberglass peices together.. then support the metal with fiberglass on the inside (not exterior) then fiberglass on the exterior after that.. sand down and body fill... For side skirts to quarter should just be a small amount of fiberglass matt.. -enjoy..
Posted By: suicide
Date Posted: June 04, 2004 at 11:15 AM
BTW!!!! PUTTIES / BONDO is NOT ur best friend.. ANYHING thing molded with MORE THAN a quarter 1/4" [even a 1/4" is to much] of bondo will crack if it is molded.. unless u don't drive the car :-)
Posted By: xtreamcc
Date Posted: June 04, 2004 at 5:18 PM
Ok, so where can I get a foam thats is both not too expensive and that can be easily carved?
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"Shiny chrome when used in conjunction with bikini models is particularly effective in inducing brain deficit disorder"
02 Jeep Grand Cherokee
Monster System on its way.
Posted By: mikedawg
Date Posted: June 04, 2004 at 8:20 PM
great stuff is less than 5 bucks at lowes or home depot. just spray and sand.
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Posted By: xtreamcc
Date Posted: June 05, 2004 at 12:26 PM
sweetness! Thanks for the help guys.
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"Shiny chrome when used in conjunction with bikini models is particularly effective in inducing brain deficit disorder"
02 Jeep Grand Cherokee
Monster System on its way.
Posted By: mikedawg
Date Posted: June 05, 2004 at 6:22 PM
post pics when you get started ------------- always looking for new info and willing to give it
Posted By: xtreamcc
Date Posted: June 05, 2004 at 10:35 PM
will do, I'm gona talk to my boy on monday, see when he wants to get started etc, its an old car with a rebuilt engine and were going to be modifying and customizing it from scratch. Thankz for all the info guys, peace
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"Shiny chrome when used in conjunction with bikini models is particularly effective in inducing brain deficit disorder"
02 Jeep Grand Cherokee
Monster System on its way.
Posted By: drunkenbreaker
Date Posted: June 12, 2004 at 2:35 AM
don't start yet, You're lacking the correct information. I sounds like you're talking about building a kit from scratch. Most of the post are about molding a finished kit to your car. There are many ways to do this, starting from scratch is the hardest and worst way to do it. If you could do it in your garage easily they wouldn't cost $700 plus dollars for one already made because everyone would be selling them. scratch that idea. Second is to "add-on" this is a method used by the legend chip foose and his crew. they take the stock bumpers and mold clay on to it and then create a reverse mold from that. This is really hard because you need to be a proficient sculpter to do this correctly. I really don't suggest this, because after the reverse mold you then have to apply mold release then fiberglass the cure then pull then finish. It will cost you more than taking it somewhere. Third and the best way, is to take a similar cars bodykit and customize it to fit. Right now we are fitting a 92-95 civic body kit to a 99 kia sportage. Huge difference, but the rear and sides were almost a perfect fit. The front could have fit better but 3 out of 4 isn't bad. Post the make of car and I'm sure we could help to figure out what car best fits.
This is definately the cheapest route.
Posted By: xtreamcc
Date Posted: June 13, 2004 at 1:31 AM
Humm, good idea drunken.... lol love the name... anyway, its an older I think 89 celica. We think the old Honda Del Sols have a simular bumper that were thinking of modifying to make like an add-on kit since del sol's sit pretty low, were looking to have between 2 and 4 inches of clearance in the front and about 6 in the back for an exaust system. Anyway, if ya'll know anything simular to a 89 celica let me know. Thanks again drunken
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"Shiny chrome when used in conjunction with bikini models is particularly effective in inducing brain deficit disorder"
02 Jeep Grand Cherokee
Monster System on its way.
Posted By: drunkenbreaker
Date Posted: June 13, 2004 at 1:59 AM
I found this pic of an 89 celica.
That white line I drew is the end of the bumper. It has a very large front fender. If this is, in fact, the right car then I suggest starting with a 88-91 honda civic body kit. Fortunately you can find those kits cheap on ebay or on sensemotorsports. You want a kit like that because there is no definition on the top of the bumper where it meets the grill and headlights. It is the same on the old civics. I would fit the bumper and then cut the fender to fit the bumper. I wouldn't try to modify the bumper to fit the fender. 
see how flat the top is. This is the Black Widow kit for an 88 civic. I think that would be the best fit.
Posted By: pureRF
Date Posted: June 13, 2004 at 11:32 AM
Wait why couldnt he do the molding with clay, that sounds easy. Get a non-drying clay and take the bumper off and just start molding. When your down lay down thin sheets of tin foil all around it (which will easily stick to the clay) then make a mold of that and you have your body kit ready to be glassed more and whatnot. Wouldnt that work?
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Posted By: xtreamcc
Date Posted: June 13, 2004 at 1:40 PM
I see what drunken is saying. Cuz one, I'm sure a molding clay isn't exactly cheap (could be wrong dont have a clue what clay would cost) and I'm not exactly the best clay molder in the world. I think it would probably be easier to mold an existing kit to his body and just customize the fit. It would be an interesting project to take on if I could find a cheap enough clay that if I screw up I can redo it.
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"Shiny chrome when used in conjunction with bikini models is particularly effective in inducing brain deficit disorder"
02 Jeep Grand Cherokee
Monster System on its way.
Posted By: mikedawg
Date Posted: June 13, 2004 at 1:55 PM
damn, giving away Team Werks secrets. shhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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Posted By: drunkenbreaker
Date Posted: June 13, 2004 at 11:52 PM
the problem isn't the price of clay, it's the price of all the reverse mold supplies. After that you still have the price of the actual bumper materials. I just purchased a gelcoat/poly resin gun for $120 that's already a 5th of the price of a bodykit and that's not even close to everything you need. a strand chopper is another $300. shopmaninc.com has all the products for building and releasing molds if you're still interested.
Posted By: pureRF
Date Posted: June 14, 2004 at 3:38 PM
"always looking for new info and willing to give it"
lol
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dream it, build it, fiberglass it
Posted By: mikedawg
Date Posted: June 15, 2004 at 12:07 AM
lol i can admit im wrong when i am. i learn from it. and i pass it on. some on here are the exact opposite. im not perfect. i wish i was. i wouldnt have to read stupid forums to get info that i need cause im too cheap to buy the books.
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Posted By: Coomer
Date Posted: June 17, 2004 at 5:39 PM
I'm actually custom making a kit for my '88 Celica hatchback right now. All I've really done so far is mold the front lip together and fill the holes in it with fiberglass, made some curved molds and then fiberglassed them to the rear of the car, and placed some factory side skirts from a junkyard a couple inches under the car and then fiberglassed that shape to the car. I think the kit is looking pretty good personally, and I can take a couple pics if you'd like to see what I've done so far. :)
Also, there is a kit made for the fourth generation Celicas. It's the Aeroform kit, and some people have it, but I personally don't like it much.
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Posted By: mikedawg
Date Posted: June 17, 2004 at 10:33 PM
yeah sure man. go ahead and post the pics.
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Posted By: Coomer
Date Posted: June 18, 2004 at 10:20 AM
mikedawg wrote:
yeah sure man. go ahead and post the pics.
Alright, I'll take some pics either tonight or tomorrow. :) -------------
Posted By: mikedawg
Date Posted: June 18, 2004 at 2:53 PM
cool, but make sure theyre in the daytime though
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Posted By: Coomer
Date Posted: June 18, 2004 at 3:27 PM
mikedawg wrote:
cool, but make sure theyre in the daytime though
Will do, or I'll take them in my lighted garage.  -------------
Posted By: demonspades
Date Posted: June 28, 2004 at 1:18 AM
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