Fiberglassing DVD Set?
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Topic: Fiberglassing DVD Set?
Posted By: HottAccord
Subject: Fiberglassing DVD Set?
Date Posted: August 19, 2004 at 1:48 PM
Not sure if this has been posted, but does anyone recomment buying that DVD set thats advertised on this site from https://www.glassworkzdvd.com/ I went to their site and I saw some interesting things. I also see that he sells these DVD's on Ebay, but there's actually 3 sellers selling the exact same DVD's. I believe the original guy is from Arizona, and the other seller is from NY & I just noticed one from Florida called 12vcustoms... Take a look: NY guy:
https://cgi.ebay.com/dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=5714450006 Original guy - Arizona:
https://cgi.ebay.com/dll?ViewItem&category=50565&item=5715082945 12volt - Florida:
https://cgi.ebay.com/dll?ViewItem&category=38646&item=7917050049
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Posted By: xavierny25
Date Posted: August 19, 2004 at 7:49 PM
well i bought the cd straight from these guys and these cd are no joke they are very detailed and really help and the guys there are very help full i am apart of there furom and they realy care to what people are doing and help as much as they could.but of course there is a bad side other then there cds i would not purches any of there tools or matierals they are way over priced and it takes time for delivery.other then that they are all good
Posted By: auex
Date Posted: August 19, 2004 at 8:50 PM
It could just be some guy trying to get more exposure. But the fact that there is no other way to contact the seller on the website other then email seems kinda shady.
I wouldn't mind knowing the person's name and what state he is in.
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Posted By: HottAccord
Date Posted: August 20, 2004 at 9:17 AM
xavierny25 wrote:
well i bought the cd straight from these guys and these cd are no joke they are very detailed and really help and the guys there are very help full i am apart of there furom and they realy care to what people are doing and help as much as they could.but of course there is a bad side other then there cds i would not purches any of there tools or matierals they are way over priced and it takes time for delivery.other then that they are all good
Thats cool, Im looking into buying them and learning some things from it. Yea I agree, their tools are pricey...
Posted By: bigmikeww
Date Posted: August 23, 2004 at 5:38 PM
any other places to get a good dvd set?
Posted By: CarAudioHelp
Date Posted: August 24, 2004 at 10:27 AM
To my knowledge there are four places to get Fiberglass DVDs. The one mentioned already, Select Products, the one advertised in Car Sound (Jackpot Video) and my own set. You used to be able to get one from N.A.M.E. (National Academy of Mobile Electronics) but I believe they're out of business and have been for several years. Their videos were from the 93/94 era. I'll refrain from making any sort of judgment on the merits of each as I might be considered biased  -------------
Posted By: mxxmikexx
Date Posted: August 24, 2004 at 9:16 PM
yeah the tools and supplies from glassworkz are totally overpriced. i just stumbled across their website today and every item offered on there i found ALOT cheaper after a quick search on google.
Posted By: cruzj35
Date Posted: August 26, 2004 at 2:09 PM
Hi. I'm from canada and was looking into buying the Glassman's How To DVD set but only one of the three sellers above will ship to canada, and it's not the original seller (I believe it's the New York guy who ships worldwide). Does anybody recommend ordering from this seller?
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Posted By: HottAccord
Date Posted: August 26, 2004 at 7:30 PM
Ok guys, I got my DVD's yesterday and already watched them twice. I paid special attention to the sub enclosure how to. Ive got a little surprising news about this enclosure Im gonna link at the bottom.
Do you know, to make this enclosure, they didnt even use fiberglass to stiffen the enclosure??
They made the base, mounted the rings, and stretched polyester trunk liner material over the enclosure.
Then, they added bondo to the outside of the box, let it dry and sanded it down with a grinder using 80, then 200, then 400 grit sand paper. After that, they flipped the box over, and cut out a section of the box to get inside. This is where they mized I believe 2 liters of resin with an expander. This made the resin really thick and gel like, then they added the hardener to the mixture, poured the mix inside and began to spread everything with a paint brush. The guy claims you can get the resin to build up about an inch thick, no fiberglass mat is needed. I found that very odd, but the box was solid! I wonder how it sounded though, they kind of leave you hanging because they never cut the subrings out and tested the box. https://www.clatecustoms.com/store/ex1.bmp Is anyone familiar with these methods they used??
Posted By: cruzj35
Date Posted: August 26, 2004 at 9:05 PM
How was the quality on your DVD'S.. did you find it quite helpful, and would you recommend it?
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Posted By: gibo
Date Posted: August 26, 2004 at 11:04 PM
Hey guys, this is my first post on this board. I'm new to this board, but not new to enclosure building I looked up the DVD's you guy's where discussing they look pretty good to me, I started box building late in 1991 and have been building off and on since, I was in the army up until 1999, so you can figure that it was kind of a hobby for me, I had some of the first N.A.M.E videos they put out from 1992 and there software. A note about the software the most basic program that you can get will be one that works in DOS only, and the newer programs have graphics and spread sheets and work with windows or what ever your system is, but the bottom line is that no matter what the new program claims they both give you the same numbers, the math stays the the same no matter what! So most new programs just have alot more visuals and don't do anything more than the simple programs, so don't think $150.00 box program is better than the $50.00 box program, it took me about $400.00+ to figure that out. Most of any dvd/video I've seen only gives you basic principles, and alot of the details are left out and not explained, so if your a beginner you may be lost or at a stand still at some points in the dvd/videos, what HottAccord says about the dvd's, is what most dvd/videos do you as far as instructions you know certain thing have to be done to complete the enclosure like the speaker cutout has to be cut at some point, they just may not specify when to do it sometimes because that's a given thing you have to do. As far as the quality of the dvd/videos, that's a loaded question what's the standard that you would judge them at, the guys making the dvd/video probably ain't trying to be hollywood cameramen! I know you guys know that David "Fishman" Rivera has dvd/video's and he says in them, if you can't do what he shows you in his dvd/videos, after watching them you don't need to be messing with cars. If you know someone that works at a high end shop and has there MECP Certificate they should be able to get the Fishman dvd/Video's for you. There's so much more information now, then there was when I started, and it's all for sale for anyone to buy, you had to go to a installers institute like the ones in Florida to learn the secrets and techniques the pros used before they had the dvd/videos, and classes where alot more than these dvd/videos cost, most classes back then were $1800.00+ for the basic stuff, plus you had to get your ass down to Florida? So I don't see how anyone can think that the dvd/video's you guys are talking about is a high price, dvd/video's don't give you the hands on trianing like a class does, but as long as you eyes and brain still work you should be able to figure out most of the dvd/video's concept, think creative! I would recommend the DVD's and I haven't even seen any of them yet, the guys that are at the shops had to pay some way to learn the techniques, be it going to classes at a institute $$$$$$, buying the dvd $$, or they developed there own techniques from trial and error $$$$$$$$$$$$$ and they teach classes, ask them how they did something and they will tell you, information is not free, go to training because, you have pay to play. Here's some links for some Videos if you guys hadn't noticed that CARAUDIOHELP is a member of this site and posted some info in this post, I guess he's just being humble by not saying he sells what being discussed and if you click on his sig you'll see. AUEX, only being able to contact the person buy email is the way that person chooses to do there business it's not shady, think about what there selling a dvd/video tape, what can they tell you about the dvd/videos on the phone that's not already been advertised? You can buy Xbox and Playstation games without testing them first, those games will not make you your money back you paid for them, but I bet you can make some money from what you learn from the dvd from GLASSWORKZDVD. I can tell you that the person's name behind the GLASSWORKZDVD is Dustin.
Posted By: auex
Date Posted: August 26, 2004 at 11:22 PM
Well, it must just be my thinking about buying anything over the internet, the more info the better. Also knowing who is putting these out would also definately help, Dave Rivera case in point. Not that I doubt the person's abilities (he would definately have to know what he is doing in order to make the dvd in the first place) but again with the internet, anonymity isn't always the best thing. It also sucks that he obviously put some work into these dvds and someone is bootlegging them on ebay.
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Posted By: CarAudioHelp
Date Posted: August 27, 2004 at 11:10 AM
Let me jump back in with a few items.
Gibo makes some very good points. Learning can be expensive. You're going to pay with your time or with your money. It's the old saying, "You can have it good, fast or cheap. Pick two". The cheapest way is to surf around the Net and learn slowly from forums and websites. The second way is through video training which costs a little money but actually shows you how to do it. The third method is to pay thousands to attend formal training. I personally dropped $1,500 plus expenses to attend Fishcamp. That was for five days. Not cheap, but fast and good. And Fishman is hilarious and a hell of a guy too. I'm not aware of any videos he has out though. I have the Metra/Fishman catalog too. I would certainly buy any and all he makes but I really don't think he has the time to do that. Plus when you're pulling in $1,500 from 30 students for one week you might be inclined not to sell the same information in a $50 video.
The reasons that most sellers choose not to list a phone number is two fold. First, we're often busy installing or creating other videos. It would be very difficult to do these things and also provide telephone support for customers. The second reason is related to the first. If you have a phone number customers expect you to answer it. They don't want to call and talk to your voicemail. By using email a seller is able to provide the best support when there is time to give it. I always do my best to answer customer's questions completely (providing links, illustrations, etc.) and quickly. That's something you just can't always do by telephone. Jackpot does provide an ordering number but it's an answering service so they won't be able to answer any questions.
As for the confusion on the sellers. The creator of that DVD set is Greg Gentry. He also goes by the nickname Glassman. He has a handful of folks around the country that are authorized to sell his DVDs. There are four that I'm aware of. One in Texas, one in Florida, one in Arizona, and one in New York. The site referenced previously belongs to the guy in Arizona. These guys aren't bootlegging the DVDs. There was a person(s) that was bootlegging his DVDs and mine but they've been shut down.
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Posted By: HottAccord
Date Posted: August 29, 2004 at 11:42 PM
You guys all make very good points. Overall, Im satisfied with the work and time put into these DVD's and I would recommend them. The quality is pretty good, and the explanations are easy to understand. I do believe it will take practice to master these techniques, but this DVD set definitley teaches you the little secrets to shorten the time involved in some of the projects and what materials are best used in different situations.
Posted By: lathan
Date Posted: September 30, 2004 at 8:27 PM
hi guys, Just wanted to say that I have all these dvd's as well and highly recomend all of them. I have been trying to attend mobile dynamics for 3 years now, but with having a two year old and no family to help out with the expenses I had to turn to these dvd's myself and I have learned alot. I have the dvd's from glassman, select products, and car audio help. good luck and peace! l ------------- Lathan Hites
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Posted By: HottAccord
Date Posted: October 01, 2004 at 8:45 AM
lathan wrote:
hi guys, Just wanted to say that I have all these dvd's as well and highly recomend all of them. I have been trying to attend mobile dynamics for 3 years now, but with having a two year old and no family to help out with the expenses I had to turn to these dvd's myself and I have learned alot. I have the dvd's from glassman, select products, and car audio help. good luck and peace! l
Well, with all of those DVD's on hand, what have you created so far? Pics? ------------- Im a fiberglass whore!!
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