my first fg enclosure
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Topic: my first fg enclosure
Posted By: rknj01
Subject: my first fg enclosure
Date Posted: September 14, 2004 at 4:28 PM
just wanted some feed back on my work
fg box pics
Replies:
Posted By: CarAudioHelp
Date Posted: September 14, 2004 at 5:12 PM
I'd say it's looking pretty good. Next comes the wild world of sanding and filling. Pretty soon the specialty shops will be trying to woo you away from Best Buy.
One thing I'd mention is to use more staples or use a "plug" in concave areas. This will make your cloth lay flatter and will help minimize finishing work.
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Posted By: xtreamcc
Date Posted: September 14, 2004 at 7:02 PM
WOW, thats gona be a bitch to sand. CAH is right about using the plugs, it saves time and head ache when it comes time to sand. Anyway, forgot to complement you, that is still a sweet looking box. What are u putting into it as far as amps and subs go?
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Posted By: rknj01
Date Posted: September 14, 2004 at 7:45 PM
3 rockford 10" he's and rockford 501s.
Posted By: 93accordSE
Date Posted: September 14, 2004 at 7:50 PM
Looking good, could you guys explain these "plugs" as you call them, and what they do? I'm still learning even though I've used FG many times.
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Posted By: IMDiesel
Date Posted: September 15, 2004 at 12:20 AM
Looks great so far. Do not forget to test fit it int the vehicle before you get to far. you dont want to have a finished box you cant fit in a trunk.. unless its an suv then no worries. By the way is it your personal set up or for a best buy customer? ------------- EZ4U2NV
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Posted By: xtreamcc
Date Posted: September 15, 2004 at 12:32 AM
Plugs are just that, a plug. You basically cut a second piece of MDF exactly the same size as the ones on the box. For instance, ur making a subwoofer ring, make a solid piece the same size as the outside of the ring. Once the ring is mounted lay the fleece over this, then using predrilled holes screw down the top piece(or pieces if u have multiple holes or racks but make sure to strech the fleece between each of them). Then screech the crap out of the fleece. What this will do is give you a flatter surface around the rings/racks that makes sanding and finishing alot easier than trying to gut and fill those staple crimples.
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Posted By: rknj01
Date Posted: September 15, 2004 at 12:34 PM
IMDiesel wrote:
Looks great so far. Do not forget to test fit it int the vehicle before you get to far. you dont want to have a finished box you cant fit in a trunk.. unless its an suv then no worries. By the way is it your personal set up or for a best buy customer?
its for my personal vehicle, i just use bb's garage cuz i live in a town house. i have test fitted it already. thanks
Posted By: rknj01
Date Posted: September 15, 2004 at 12:37 PM
if i made a setup like this for a customer, how much do you think i could charge? (not including subs, amps, etc...)
Posted By: r0yal
Date Posted: September 15, 2004 at 5:55 PM
w0w..VERY nice work! I like!! :)
Posted By: 93accordSE
Date Posted: September 15, 2004 at 7:07 PM
maybe $25 an hour, your not certified are you?
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Posted By: bndallas
Date Posted: September 18, 2004 at 12:14 AM
I would charge $300 easy, because probably about half of that would go to materials alone then you still need a little for your work. It would depend on what you were doing.
Posted By: ctravis
Date Posted: September 19, 2004 at 4:23 PM
Hu??? Thats a large enclose. I would charge $300 for a standard MDF tripple 12 enclosure. Thats a fiberglass enclosure. 1 day for building it. 2 days for sanding. Maybe $1000 -$1500. Its not so much the materials that cost, its the time that gets expensive.
Posted By: boxmaker85
Date Posted: September 19, 2004 at 11:32 PM
ctravis is right. if time's not an issue you could charge less. from my POV that would mean more possible customers would be attracted to you (assuming you do a decent job). i know that if there were two guys that did the same quality of work but one for lesser price i would go for him. but then again... all that sanding's a b*%$@!!!
Posted By: boxmaker85
Date Posted: September 21, 2004 at 8:47 PM
Oh and a nice box really nice lookin'. Are you goin to seperate each chamber?
Posted By: rknj01
Date Posted: September 21, 2004 at 11:29 PM
i was thinking about it but im not going to... the subs are being wired in mono and the airspace is pretty close to what i need. i think it will be ok
Posted By: xtreamcc
Date Posted: September 22, 2004 at 10:51 AM
I do this stuff on the side so I dont know what industry costs are, but I would probably charge around $200 for that if its increw (my car group is the only peeps that get a discount unless I'm tryin to get something off whoever I'm doing it for) otherwise if its just some joe smoe off the street he's gona put out like 4 or 5 hundo for it. Cuz a box like that would probably cost about $80 in materals and take about 15-20 man hours of labor (most of that sanding, primering and sanding, and bondoing, and sanding, and yeah u know. So the principal cost of FG is labor cuz its very tedious work.
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Posted By: CarAudioHelp
Date Posted: September 22, 2004 at 2:55 PM
"if i made a setup like this for a customer, how much do you think i could charge? (not including subs, amps, etc...)"
Charge no less than you're willing to take and no more than they're willing to spend.
A lot of cost comes in the finish (vinyl, paint, etc.). Paint costs the most because it's expensive and difficult to work with. Vinyl is next for basically the same reasons. In the enclosure's current state you won't get much for it. After you've got it finished you can start getting estimates of the retail value. Otherwise there's no way to accurately say.
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Posted By: tbone1122
Date Posted: September 30, 2004 at 7:42 PM
That looks great. Are you sure you are new to doing fg. ------------- Needs more BASS alot more BASS
Posted By: rknj01
Date Posted: October 01, 2004 at 12:36 AM
yeah im new, ive made boxes from mdf before and i glassed a trim ring into my kit, but thats it
Posted By: 12slack
Date Posted: October 01, 2004 at 10:10 AM
That is nice! Wish I had the gusto to attempt fiberglassing, maybe in the future sometime. Looks good.
Posted By: slab42
Date Posted: October 01, 2004 at 10:54 AM
Does your GM or DM know you are doing this at the store? I got in trouble for glassing a box in the bay at my BBY store. My DM happened to walk in, and rip me a new one... Just giving you a heads up... Don't get caught!
Posted By: rknj01
Date Posted: October 01, 2004 at 1:31 PM
its not like i do it on the clock, plus i could bullsh1t my way out of anything.
Posted By: slab42
Date Posted: October 04, 2004 at 8:18 PM
I was there on my day off, my DM went off about how if I got hurt, or damaged the car... yadayadayada... Trust me, do it outside the bay, or at home
Posted By: Ravendarat
Date Posted: October 04, 2004 at 8:31 PM
I have done something like that before and we charged 1200 for it. Customer was satisfied with the price and so was I. BTW the materials that went into the box were around 160 but I think we built it up like 5 or 6 times, it was a while ago so I dont remember and the customer has since moved to Ottawa so I dont even know if he still has it. But That box is looking good, I didnt see if you said what you are using to finish it, also what kinda vehicle is this going into.
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Posted By: rknj01
Date Posted: October 06, 2004 at 4:12 PM
i never said what i was finishing it with, but i got a guy whos gonna paint it for me with factory paint. i just gotta primer it and wetsand it. he's doing the box and my bumper for 150 including paint
Posted By: rknj01
Date Posted: October 06, 2004 at 4:13 PM
slab42 wrote:
I was there on my day off, my DM went off about how if I got hurt, or damaged the car... yadayadayada...
Trust me, do it outside the bay, or at home
if i get hurt its my problem and imnot working on a car. our bay is pretty big. i got a 14'x14' area which isnt used at all
Posted By: jortiz
Date Posted: October 06, 2004 at 4:28 PM
Good job man. That box is going to look clean when its
all done.
Posted By: mystro1
Date Posted: October 13, 2004 at 7:41 PM
The box looks awsome, but 1 question hoiw did you figure out your air space in it
Posted By: rknj01
Date Posted: October 18, 2004 at 1:42 AM
for the airspace i figured it out like it was a square and the made up for what i lost.( if it was shorter, i made it deeper.) plus i can always use plyfill if its too small or put something inside if its too big. the sub specs gave me a range in airspace. im pretty sure i fell somewhere in the middle.
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