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Forum Name: Fiberglass, Fabrication, and Interiors
Forum Discription: Fiberglass Kick Panels, Subwoofer Enclosures, Plexiglas, Fabrics, Materials, Finishes, etc.
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Topic: Another enclosure, pics inside

Posted By: HottAccord
Subject: Another enclosure, pics inside
Date Posted: October 09, 2004 at 8:04 PM

Here we go again, here's my 4th enclosure.  In pic 5 you will notice I cut out a section in the rear to apply my mixture of resin/cabosil expander to stiffen up the box from the inside.  The is for my hoopty/beater rear drivers' side corner.   Questions/comments are welcomed!     8D

Pic 1 - Mold inside car
Pic 2 - Mold shape w/cut edges
Pic 3 - Mold with mdf ring
Pic 4 - Mold wrapped in fleece
Pic 5 - Box with rear cut out
Pic 6 - Box sealed with sub before bondo
Pic 7 - Box with bondo/rage gold applied
Pic 8 - Box painted silver
Pic 9 - Completed sub box loaded with subwoofer



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Posted By: jortiz
Date Posted: October 10, 2004 at 12:50 AM
Thats a pretty sweet box for a hoopty. What is this mixture of resin/cabosil expander?




Posted By: 93accordSE
Date Posted: October 10, 2004 at 1:00 AM
Looks like theres some divets in it, or is it just a reflection?

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Posted By: HottAccord
Date Posted: October 11, 2004 at 10:43 AM

jortiz wrote:

Thats a pretty sweet box for a hoopty. What is this mixture of resin/cabosil expander?

If you go do a search on some previous posts, search for "cabosil" or even "aerosil".  Its a powder that you mix with resin & hardener.  This makes the resin into a gel like substance that you can use to reinforce enclosures with.  In order words, you can use this to stiffen up an enclosure from the inside rather than adding layers of fiberglass.  You want to at least get about 1/4 inch thick of the mixture to stiffen up the enclosure walls.



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Posted By: HottAccord
Date Posted: October 11, 2004 at 10:46 AM

93accordSE wrote:

Looks like theres some divets in it, or is it just a reflection?

I think there was 1 or 2 little spots that weren't perfect, they could have been sanded more.  But I didnt want to spend too much time on this one being it was for my hoopty.



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Posted By: jrjlo
Date Posted: October 11, 2004 at 8:06 PM
nice




Posted By: kickerstang
Date Posted: October 12, 2004 at 11:43 AM

looks like sh*t, try sanding it next time, that helps with the divets



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Posted By: CarAudioHelp
Date Posted: October 12, 2004 at 1:40 PM
Not too shabby. More body filler or a final layer of high build primer will take care of the pock marks. In the future you probably don't have to cut out the back of your enclosure to stiffen it. You can usually reach in through the woofer opening and do it that way or just pour the mixture in and then rotate the enclosure until you get the coverage you want. It beats having to cut and then repair the cut out.

Aerosil/Cabosil are fumed silica thixotropic powders. Fumed silica is a white powder that is very lightweight and is used as a resin thickening agent. It's sometimes referred to as "resin thick" for this reason. Aerosil and Cabosil are trade names and fumed silica is the generic name. Cabosil is manufactured by Cabot and Aerosil is manufactured by Degussa. And that concludes our lesson on fumed silica.


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Posted By: heavilymedicate
Date Posted: October 12, 2004 at 2:28 PM
Looks ok, keep working at it and you'll only get better  :  )




Posted By: HottAccord
Date Posted: October 13, 2004 at 5:35 PM
Right now Im workin on some speaker door pods for my 6 1/2's.  This time, no short cuts, and 100% effort on sanding etc.  So far it's comin out pretty good, Im doin one at a time though.

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Posted By: 95xjsport
Date Posted: December 03, 2004 at 10:40 AM
I built a box for the back of my jeep, it will hold two twelves but, I can't get that damn resin to harden, hafl of it is hard but the rest isn't, I followed the directions to the t and it is still sticky and soft in some places...




Posted By: heavilymedicate
Date Posted: December 03, 2004 at 11:24 AM
START YOUR OWN THREAD.  You'll get better results.  posted_image

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Posted By: Glowinlow22
Date Posted: December 03, 2004 at 4:18 PM

Your project is gonna have to be started over, at least on the side thats tacky, if glass doesnt set within a few hours its useless, the chemical reaction has a certain time to cure then its done for good, check your hardner for tempeture ranges as a few degrees can make a huge difference, if you started one side around noon and finished the next side up around 8 at night the variable is enough to make those directions useless, to cure some of this get a couple cheap spot lamps or any high output light for outdoor work and such, place the lamps so that the light is spread even and the lamps are about 2 feet above the work, check the glass frequently, DO NOT USE FAST HARDNER WITH THIS METHOD IN THE SUMMER it will melt/eat thru anything and cause total damage and have to be ground out and reglassed but in winter it will work very nicely, there is also a product that is made by ca i beleive that will instantly harden most fiberglass resins works great for speaker cloth or fleece layers will probably work great on chopped mats first layer as well.

J~





Posted By: 95xjsport
Date Posted: December 04, 2004 at 10:24 PM
Is it possible that I dodn't add enough hardner?? I was told that I can mix up some more with even more hardner and put it ove where it is tacky and should hopefully harden the rest of it?? would this work??




Posted By: 95xjsport
Date Posted: December 04, 2004 at 10:26 PM
this product taht will harden the resin, where would I get some of that??




Posted By: Teamrf
Date Posted: December 05, 2004 at 3:14 AM
Not bad.

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Posted By: HottAccord
Date Posted: December 07, 2004 at 12:31 PM
LMAO, I came in here wondering who dug up my old topic and I see it turned into something else!!  Yea man get ur own topic!! hahah  only kidding...anyone can offer any type of help anywhere in here... posted_image

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Posted By: Stlb5
Date Posted: December 10, 2004 at 8:45 AM
guess I'm glad it got dug up.  So you didn't use any glass on the front face of that enclosure?  Just resin with a thickening agent?  This can't be as strong as using glass.




Posted By: timewarpaudio
Date Posted: January 26, 2005 at 11:13 AM

95xjsport wrote:

I built a box for the back of my jeep, it will hold two twelves but, I can't get that damn resin to harden, hafl of it is hard but the rest isn't, I followed the directions to the t and it is still sticky and soft in some places...

Did you mix the resin and catylist enough, sounds to me that it didnt get mixed enough.  Also, when resin starts to go bad its acts like that, Ive had it happen to me more than once.  Are you sure you used enough hardener?





Posted By: beyondamfm
Date Posted: January 26, 2005 at 11:56 AM
Two threads in one, I smell newbieposted_image

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Posted By: 4doormadness
Date Posted: January 27, 2005 at 2:07 PM
nice job for your first time..Keep at it as you will only get better. 




Posted By: vlamz24
Date Posted: January 29, 2005 at 9:01 PM
How many layer for glass and how did you attach the fleece to the mold?




Posted By: vlamz24
Date Posted: January 29, 2005 at 9:02 PM
How many layers of glass did you use and how did you attach the fleece to the mold?




Posted By: HottAccord
Date Posted: January 31, 2005 at 12:57 PM
Wow who dug this old post from the grave!?!?  This post is a few months old already...

Anyway, I think I said somewhere around 4-5 layers of glass.  Do a search if you're still confused about anything, this site is FILLED with some knowledgable people and there are many topics on the beginning steps on how to get started!

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