Mean Green
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Forum Name: Fiberglass, Fabrication, and Interiors
Forum Discription: Fiberglass Kick Panels, Subwoofer Enclosures, Plexiglas, Fabrics, Materials, Finishes, etc.
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Printed Date: July 06, 2025 at 11:18 AM
Topic: Mean Green
Posted By: One_Dieu
Subject: Mean Green
Date Posted: March 09, 2005 at 12:50 PM
I really don't know the real name for this stuff so I call Mean Green. I was reading an article by Jeff Sit and he put resin and rage gold together. Has any one done this? How did it work out and why is it done? Also how do you mix it. Meaning how much Rage gold and resin?
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Posted By: realitycheck
Date Posted: March 09, 2005 at 1:21 PM
Its mixed to make it easier to sand. Its also called polycrete or something like that. Im not sure how its mixed though.
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Posted By: placid warrior
Date Posted: March 09, 2005 at 4:59 PM
i was about to ask this question too...do u have to add the creme hardener to the rage gold/bondo as well as the liquid hardener to the fiberglass and then mix the 2 together or do u just mix up the resin and hardener and throw in a good size blob of rage gold/bondo?
Posted By: civicdetailer
Date Posted: March 09, 2005 at 5:24 PM
i have tried this in the past, and i only mixed in the mekp hardener for the resin.
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Posted By: placid warrior
Date Posted: March 10, 2005 at 8:29 PM
allright, thanks. It cured normally then?
Posted By: oonikfraleyoo
Date Posted: March 10, 2005 at 8:37 PM
Mix the rage and resin first. Then mix in a bit more mekp than you normaly would for that amount of resin. I personlly don't like the stuff. It doesn't sand any easier and it can make your box warp. It is supposed to be used as an alternative to doing the hard work and actually laying enough fiberglass. I suggest you don't take the "easy way" and do it the right way. ------------- Nik
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Posted By: placid warrior
Date Posted: March 10, 2005 at 11:34 PM
It can make your box warp? is it from the extra heat from adding the extra mekp? what about just using a thin layer of it to help smooth out the box a bit before u use the rage? Ive got a box that I'm making and nothing flat is made with fiberglass so after 3 layers of glass i could barely flex it at all, then i added a layer of kitty hair on the outside and a bit on the inside too (using up the can) ..i can jump on it...i was wondering if i did a layer of the (polycrete?) if it would warp this at all plus it will strengthen it a little more while smoothing out the box some...or should i bypass the mix and just use rage as the added strength isnt really necessary?
Posted By: oonikfraleyoo
Date Posted: March 10, 2005 at 11:41 PM
I'm not sure about your box needing added strength. I also don't use kitty hair (for structural support) as it is also just cutting a corner and does not equal the results you get when do it the right way. I would not use polycrete. If it seems strong enough just a coat of rage will do it. If it does not seem strong enough, lay more glass. Cut corners will end up coming back to haunt you. ------------- Nik
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Posted By: oonikfraleyoo
Date Posted: March 10, 2005 at 11:52 PM
It might be ok to use on something that doesn't need much structure. You could use it on a monitor mount or something. Just don't use it for sructure or on large areas. ------------- Nik
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Posted By: placid warrior
Date Posted: March 11, 2005 at 1:02 AM
allright, thanks for the help and the heads up..I dont think it really needs it but i dont want to be borderline on the box..just to be safe i'll lay 1 layer of cloth down as there are no tight bends for it and the cloth wont require as much finishing work as mat (from what i've read) I was also wondering if adding more or less hardener for both fiberglass and fillers will result in weaker or stronger materials...i used less hardener in the kitty hair and instead of it hardening in 15 min, like the can says its taken about 48 hours to fully cure...does something like that result in a stronger, less brittle material or does it not really matter how long it takes something to cure? thanks again for your help Nik, its very much needed and appreciated
Posted By: oonikfraleyoo
Date Posted: March 11, 2005 at 11:44 AM
Too little hardener it will never cure. Too much hardener it will cure too quick and be brittle. If you put enough to make it harden in 2 days, well..I'm not sure. I'd say try to make it closer to whatever the product recomends. If it says 15 minutes then a you should still be good if it takes an hour. With it taking 2 days it seems like it would not be very strong as there is a fraction of the need hardener spread evenly throughout all of the filler. I'm not sure though. If I get a chance this weekend I may figure out some sort of experiment to test that. Regardless though, not to beat a dead horse, I lean away from using kitty hair for structural support in things like enclosures. ------------- Nik
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Posted By: placid warrior
Date Posted: March 11, 2005 at 12:22 PM
Alright, thanks...a test would be awesome...very helpful. I'll keep in mind not to use kitty hair for the other 2 boxes i have to make. thanks again.
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