Man this is alot of work, First Fiberglass Project
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Topic: Man this is alot of work, First Fiberglass Project
Posted By: total_overkill
Subject: Man this is alot of work, First Fiberglass Project
Date Posted: December 23, 2005 at 8:36 PM
well I started my first project. I made alot of mistakes but I am sure sanding and a bit of fibreglass bondo will even it all out for the secound layers. I included a custom box I am starting which made this alot of fibreglass to deal with. I am getting better though. https://www.grandsontario.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=52&t=10343&st=0#entry110272 ------------- 40 grit has saved my life sometimes =[
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Posted By: ragoal12
Date Posted: December 23, 2005 at 9:24 PM
yes FG is alot of work... but when done right it looks great in the end and gives you a one of kind system... no offense but your system seems alil over kill.. have you tested this setup?? or is this just what you think is cool???
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Posted By: total_overkill
Date Posted: December 23, 2005 at 9:58 PM
been wired and rewired taken out and put back in like 5 times in the past 4 months. ------------- 40 grit has saved my life sometimes =[
Posted By: darreng
Date Posted: December 23, 2005 at 9:59 PM
ragoal12 wrote:
no offense but your system seems alil over kill
no kidding, are going for show or do you just have way too much money?
Posted By: total_overkill
Date Posted: December 24, 2005 at 12:06 AM
Show. Not enough money =[ thats why its alot of work LOL =]
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Posted By: jlord16
Date Posted: December 24, 2005 at 1:35 AM
shuld look kool though ------------- Clarion DB36MP
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Posted By: darthness
Date Posted: December 24, 2005 at 2:24 AM
i have a question for you... why did you use FG for a flat peice? its not onyl a waste of time and effort but not as strong as a MDF.
Posted By: total_overkill
Date Posted: December 24, 2005 at 9:57 AM
Mdf under the fibreglass
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Posted By: mi_what
Date Posted: December 25, 2005 at 10:09 AM
Just me but I notice that youare mixing alot of different brands...any particuliar reason? you have two RF amps 3 Pioneer amps, two alpine subs and two pioneer subs, two kaption 6x9s and two alpine 6x9s. I know that monetary changes effect it and all, but is there any other reason? I would have to second that it is a bit overkill, but looks like it will be fun. What type of wires/distribution blocks are you running? also one last question, are you bridging your batteries? I noticed that you have a separate one in the back but is that all you have powering your system? Is one of those amps dedicated to your front stage?
Posted By: total_overkill
Date Posted: December 25, 2005 at 10:34 AM
got a good deal on the amps and equiptment. Batteries run off a 200 amp stinger relay. 140 amp alternator. 150 amp fuse. 3 1.0 farad capacitors. maybe adding a 25 farad also. 1 gage wire. 2 pioneer amps dedicated to 6x9s 1 pioneer amp dedicated to 350 watt subs and tweeters up front 2 RF 1000's to free air subs 10 and 12 inch it will look a heck of alot better than this also 
the other amp isnt shown. this was the old backseat Yuck. this box will get rid of it all and look good. =] 6X9's are going to be embedded in the box I making.  and this was a temp setup before the freeair design. A ratsnest yes but it was temp. 
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Posted By: darthness
Date Posted: December 25, 2005 at 1:38 PM
140 amp alternator and "2800w" ( but thats probably peak, so maybe around 1200 RMS)? are you crazy? You need to go back and go with 1 brand of amps and subs..... loose the caps and actually upgrade your charging sytem rather than add a bunch of useless caps. Get a higher-amp alternator with a redtop under the hood and a yellow top in the trunk. and are you calling that a show system? are you on crack or what? that huge mess of wiring makes me want to throw up :(
Posted By: Ravendarat
Date Posted: December 25, 2005 at 3:17 PM
He said that was a temp job, but even so that kinda shhh is just plain dangerous. I smell smoke:) Keep pluggin away man, you'll get it. I would mabye suggest you trim down the gear a little bit, it would probally be more benificial than trying to shoe horn everything in there
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Posted By: total_overkill
Date Posted: December 25, 2005 at 4:14 PM
wish I could buy top of the line all matching equiptment, But I have to work with what I actually have. This has been alot of work over various parts of the car. the system is not the actuall show but the entire car will be. the amp racks in the box will be multi holed and will fit almost anymake so it is upgradeable when the time arises. Air intake & exaust is being done on the box for the amps . even doing a possible fab to the window in the back to draw air to the amps on good days simply by pushing backseat window button. Never claimed to be a pro either, Just a guy that has done massive amounts of work and think I have a 2nd job working on my car. Learn along the way. thats why I come to these. But I have wired it and rewired it alot of times. I do however keep an extinquisher in the car, ------------- 40 grit has saved my life sometimes =[
Posted By: darthness
Date Posted: December 25, 2005 at 8:37 PM
thats what im thinking. although instead of installed, i would us ethe phrase "losely toss in" take all that crap out, and seperate all your wires, and install everything neatly. twist ties are your friend!
Posted By: total_overkill
Date Posted: December 26, 2005 at 6:06 AM
all these pics are TEMP setup pics . Only wired this way to test and actually be able to listen to my music when I drive until the final placement. Also wired this way because If you really look close all amps caps grounding plate and quad fuse block are on 1 piece of wood. Simply disconnect the main Power at the fuse block and main Neg at the plate, some rca's and you can now pull this off as 1 piece right out. and work in the trunk now ect without getting your equiptment dirty. when done put power and Neg, rca's back to original and it's back in. the way it is set now is temp But is disconnected easy and 1 piece take out. So that is why it looks like that right now. I am doing massive work back here, and only me doing it so it's going slow. I can't not listen to music. Same can also be said for the pic with the amps on the old box if you look fuse block and grounding plate were added all in one package so it could be taken out in 1 step removing exact same wires above My original post explains I am tidying it all up for the final install when the box is done. these setups were TEMP installs. I knew I was taking it all out yet again for the umpteenth time. I hate it when all the .fibreglass bondo silcone sanding grit gets in all my stereo equiptment so I knew I didnt want to spend an extra half hour cutting off all the extra zip ties I put on that took an hour also. Thus saving an hour and a half of time just in zipties let alone the wireclean up ect. 
with this much mess going on basically daily this is actually an excellent setup ------------- 40 grit has saved my life sometimes =[
Posted By: total_overkill
Date Posted: December 26, 2005 at 8:01 AM
wish I could edit but thanks to moderator for linking em up. I would also like to say that there are 4 amps and 3 caps wired up in that. Look a bit closer at my temp free air placement of the amps and take in to consideration the amount of amps and caps there and then say to me thats a mess. I swear I am totally happy with it I can take it out and put it all back in in 10 15 mins tops
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Posted By: total_overkill
Date Posted: December 26, 2005 at 8:33 AM
I had also said it will look a heck of alot better than this also ------------- 40 grit has saved my life sometimes =[
Posted By: fr33w0rld
Date Posted: December 27, 2005 at 10:14 PM
holy basuses thats a blender system....did u raid your bros garage and toss everything he has into your car...if the system is not setup properly...the 10's and 12's will cancel out hein?...just buy 2 15's port it...buy a huge amp or 2 of them run 5 bat's and a 200 amp alt...
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Posted By: total_overkill
Date Posted: December 28, 2005 at 9:39 PM
theres ports in the top corners already but was thinking of adding another 1 in the middle up top
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Posted By: audiobhan101
Date Posted: December 29, 2005 at 5:03 PM
Looks awsome man. dont let anybody say it looks bad or this wont work. as you said its a learning experiance. and once you have this kind of stuff in your car it is all upgradeable and interchangable.
i cant spell but i think you get the point lol.
keep up the good work. please post finished pics
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Posted By: 97blackrodeo
Date Posted: December 29, 2005 at 6:22 PM
total_overkill wrote:
theres ports in the top corners already but was thinking of adding another 1 in the middle up top
next time dont chew your sub holes out. use a saw or router. just kidding...but in all seriousness, you really cant just add ports wherever you desire. have you planned out chamber sizes, frequencies etc? Id hate to see you do all that work and have your equipment crap out on ya. just a few tips thats all. post up picks as you get them.
Posted By: DukeDuke
Date Posted: December 30, 2005 at 1:17 AM
I hate to bring this up, but this is looking to be the next mustang... ouch... but good luck man, I am in the process of doing my box, however everything I am running is very good grade, various brands, MTX 12, Memphis Amp, AudioControl EQX and Epic-160, 3 sets of SoundStream Comps, as well as a few other things... I agree with Audiobahn... it is a learning expenience, but everything you are running and how you are running sounds to me like you are going to fry yourself. As well, 2 10's and 2 12's will cancel each other out, you might want to change it before its to late, do 4 of something IMO. But good luck man, keep us up to date, but buy like I did, one piece at a time, I now have everything in my garage and just got to get the drive to finish it. But I will say... interesting setup, kind of looks like a pawn shop on wheels. Have a good New Years and keep us up to date.
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Duke Duke
Posted By: mi_what
Date Posted: December 30, 2005 at 8:45 AM
DukeDuke wrote:
kind of looks like a pawn shop on wheels.
 That's funny. I think the main point here is that everyone is worried about you starting a fire...just be sure to crimp all wires with terminal rings and tape the bottom portion of the ring so that no wire is exposed, also you need to have some cleanliness in there. Use wire loom or at least tape them together:
all power wires together
all negative wires together
signal cables
remotes
not only will that prevent sparks it will also make it look that much better. If you can spare the room, put your caps side by side, that will reduce the length that the current has to flow between them thus giving more power and preventing fires. As long as you angle your subs right you shouldn't have too bad of a cancellation, BUT, in my opinion as well, you should have tried to stick with same sizes. Have fun and don't hurt yourself, keep posting pics.
Posted By: total_overkill
Date Posted: December 30, 2005 at 6:45 PM
Actuall all ends are crimped soldered and liquid electrical tape added. Box will make all leads supper short.
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Posted By: g-twizzl
Date Posted: December 30, 2005 at 8:56 PM
As it has been said before, this is a learning experience. The results can be catastrophic, or colossal. I'm new to the FG side of box building, and understand that when designing any kind of enclosure, accessibility/removability is a big big part of the whole scheme. Is the FG baffle removable?, Is the rear deck 6x9s removable?
Posted By: total_overkill
Date Posted: December 30, 2005 at 9:22 PM
yes to both. 2 piece design allows removibility easily. Plus access doors ar going to be added. Also doing a secound box up. New post. I have taken as many safeguards as possible. But what I have been trying to say is I hooked this up so many times and unhooked it that I can do it in my sleep. I work constantly back there so getting it out and in is my main priority right now. Not how it looks. this is not even near completion and I still want to listen to it. All this box is is a cover not a sub box. For all the crap that I am taking out of the trunk. I lose the backseat yes, But I gain a one of a kind setup and all my stuff is safer in the car then in the trunk.
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Posted By: total_overkill
Date Posted: December 30, 2005 at 9:25 PM
Now this is nowhere near completion. But I was looking at the way I am reflecting the bass on my existing box and just wast sure. The box itself can be raised or lowered 6 inches but I am still not sure this is such a good idea. Either way I got a new cover design I have made ( even more work) and am going to test both out anyway. https://www.grandsontario.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=52&t=10343&st=15#entry110489 ------------- 40 grit has saved my life sometimes =[
Posted By: Uniqueaudio
Date Posted: December 30, 2005 at 11:31 PM
Yeah man, it's a lot of work! ------------- uniquekennels@hotmail.com
Posted By: HottAccord
Date Posted: December 31, 2005 at 12:36 AM
Definitely a lot of work, but when it's done right, it can;t be compared to anything else! Also, just thought I'd mention, when I saw this pic, FIRE HAZARD popped into my head haha. Glad it was only a temp thing though! ------------- Im a fiberglass whore!!
Posted By: total_overkill
Date Posted: December 31, 2005 at 2:44 AM
Yes the gas can empty. When full air pressure released weekly and only 1\4 full tops. =p Reminds me of one of them can you spot the problem with this picture thing. You are very observant though I will give you that. But I was aware of this fact. =] I do always keep an extinquisher in the car. Man you guys would go haywire if I told you the interior lights have 45 LEDS that come on, theres stobe lights in the headlights,LCD fuse block and battery terminals, LED and Neon under body kits, LEDS in headlights, LED Engine lighting, NEon bar in front grill, Neon bar in trunk, More LEDS in trunk, Custom Blue Racing gages, Massive amounts of Rope\string light, 4 small bass reactor neon bars, Led scanners on the doors and hood, Light up flame mirror, Light up flame peddles, LED licese plate pegs, ANDplate lighting. Im sure I am forgetting something but ya get the point. You know how you name your car. I named mine Overkill. Kinda how I chose my name. Custom done by elbow grease, THC, and a midlife crisis.
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Posted By: DukeDuke
Date Posted: December 31, 2005 at 4:09 AM
Bro.... lol, I hope you are adding a couple batteries and one hell of a huge alt. pulling that much juice, good luck. It sounds like you should have talked to LowGlow, Streetglow, or Lite Glow to help you out on some of the parts. Good luck man, lol. Better you than me to tackle a project like that. Mine is a bitch, and it is not even half of what you half. lol. Well just take your time and draw everything out, and add another maybe something in the 500 amp range lol. JK. But good luck, keep the pics coming... as well is it hard to see out your front window with that massive ass blower on your hood? ------------- Duke Duke
Posted By: darthness
Date Posted: December 31, 2005 at 10:05 AM
can we get more pics of your riced out car?
are you mexican btw? (no offense...)
Posted By: mi_what
Date Posted: December 31, 2005 at 2:39 PM
I hear ya DukeDuke, I only got little draw in my car but still went with a high output red top. Here's what I have in mine starting from the front:
4" crystal clear projector fog lights with 7 color change angel eyes
halogen bulbs in the headlights
underbody neons
1 MTX 4004 4 channel amp
2 7.2" sunvisor monitors
JVC KD-S30 headunit
planet audio P400DVD dvd player
reverse glow guages
2 7.2" headrest monitors
2 5.6" monitors molded into the rear door panels
2 8" monitors in the rear hatch
6" white neon bar lighting up the frenched license plate
*system I'm building:
Top Secret
1 MTX 600W class D monoblock amp
2 12" MTX 8500 subs
1 12" linear actuator
Top Secret
2 12" red neons in the box
But I am going to be bridging another red top just for that build so I have no clue how you have enough juice to power all of that!
Posted By: j68rh
Date Posted: December 31, 2005 at 3:36 PM
Dude that is a mess I would be imbarressed to show that.
Posted By: total_overkill
Date Posted: December 31, 2005 at 3:52 PM
Man I dont know how many times I have to say this in this post. It is what I have right now No option of getting new stuff till later. Yes its a mess ITS TEMP. I am doing as much as I possibly can to upgrade my charging system. I am trying to get help as it is. https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=69633&PN=1 ------------- 40 grit has saved my life sometimes =[
Posted By: phatx96xaccord
Date Posted: December 31, 2005 at 5:20 PM
you could always sell what u got, and use the money for somethin else.you could use less speakers for the same quality output.
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Posted By: total_overkill
Date Posted: January 01, 2006 at 5:24 AM
darthness wrote:
can we get more pics of your riced out car?
are you mexican btw? (no offense...)
https://www.grandsontario.com/gallery/albun16 Older pics but a couple there. No I am not mexican. But I do have a musical horn that plays la cooca rocha. LOL =] ------------- 40 grit has saved my life sometimes =[
Posted By: macman10
Date Posted: January 01, 2006 at 10:26 PM
Jeeze! Thats one fly ride!
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Posted By: forbidden
Date Posted: January 04, 2006 at 10:35 PM
You are scaring me.
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Top Secret, I can tell you but then my wife will kill me.
Posted By: 05honda
Date Posted: January 05, 2006 at 11:28 AM
DukeDuke.....It would be hard to find another mustang.....that was hardcore F****D...Im glad its temperary....But it looks like you got a good frame made for the box.....not bad work....
Posted By: playr747
Date Posted: January 06, 2006 at 12:29 PM
No please ... not a another Mustang.....
You have to start somewhere..
Posted By: 97blackrodeo
Date Posted: January 06, 2006 at 5:22 PM
Dude im sorry, Im gonna have to take my pm back. I dont see this ending any other way than in catastrophe. Not to mention Im not sure where you gathered your research from, but its flat out wrong when it comes to design, fabricating and production. I learned the same way you are-by doing it, but I learned completely different methods. Sorry I cant help you out, buy I dont want my name near this project. Not slamming your project or nothing, so dont take it the wrong way. Keep the progress pics coming.
Posted By: total_overkill
Date Posted: January 06, 2006 at 8:42 PM
Wow I cant believe I am getting so much slack for putting in so much work. To a point that ppl won't even help me. =[ Every one of us started out as a first timer one time or another and learned along the way. That is why I come to these forums to learn. Also I am sure as I have seen quite a few times in theses articles posted here that ppl always say its not that great but soon change thier tune when the sanding priming and paint is done. All I know Is I have put in lots of work on this and pretty well lost my back seat. I have made a one piece design as illustrated that spans from the floor across the entire back seat and up to the sub openings. that in itself was alot of work considering there are 3 layers on it. ( again not sanded primed and painted, I am sure almost all will agree that makes a huge difference.) floors done now in this pic 3 layers (highlighted arears are fibreglad\ssed in both pics.) 
not to mention I am making 2 differnt boxes that will attach to this piece. Also I have done my sub enclosures only 1 layer of fibreglass so far. 
Over MDF, bondo, silicone, and 3 layers of ruberizer in the trunk so far. I titled this Man this is alot of work for a reason. I have put lots in. I didn't say it's perfect and am not claiming to be a pro. But I know for sure that is starting to come around. All projects look so so in thier begining stages. All I know is Im not a quitter. 10's can always be cut to 12's when the time arises also. ------------- 40 grit has saved my life sometimes =[
Posted By: mi_what
Date Posted: January 07, 2006 at 10:51 AM
Nobody here was putting down your glasswork or building designs. Everybody was wondering about your choice in products and EVERYONE was wondering what the hell you were thinking with those wires. Don't give up, don't let it turn into the mustang, and don't blow your car up. That's my advice to you. I (personally speaking) would have saved up for either all the same size speakers or at least two really good speakers with a matching amp and just added on to that whenever you get more dinero. but, that's only my opinion.
Posted By: jfunk06
Date Posted: January 07, 2006 at 3:58 PM
Dude, you need to stop going into PepBoys with a credit card. You got ever Neon & LCD acc. they have! And btw, the hood scoop is hideous man. I dont want to put you down, but, have you seen your car? As far as your set-up, its going to sound like garbage. I dont know why everyone suggests buying new stuff, it wont sound good regardless. The free-air design, not a good idea. With 2 diffrent brands, horrible idea. With two diffrent sizes, you must be drunk! ------------- Govenor of Jimcinati
93' GMC Safari XT
Posted By: jfunk06
Date Posted: January 07, 2006 at 4:04 PM
I also have another question, or, more of an observation. That the box for your 6x9s is put together better and stronger than the ones for your woofers. IM confused, should it be the other way around? You come down to Baltimore, and ill do the whole set-up for you just because i feel bad.
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93' GMC Safari XT
Posted By: jfunk06
Date Posted: January 07, 2006 at 4:07 PM
And one more thing, you dont need to have 4 amps in there for temporary. If i was doing something temporary, i would hook the front two speakers to the head-unit. Done, you want a sub, build a little box for your 10, attatch an amp to it, and run 8guage wire upfront. No need to have all that other stuff man. Even if it is easy to get out, its not needed, especially when you have so little in there. ------------- Govenor of Jimcinati
93' GMC Safari XT
Posted By: mi_what
Date Posted: January 09, 2006 at 7:17 PM
Wow! someone is a postwhore. Dude, lay off of him; everyone needs to make some mistakes to learn. As far as I'm concerned he can dump whatever he wants into the car as long as:
1. he likes it.
2. he doesn't blow up city hall with it...wouldn't want hime to take out "jimcinati" 
You know, you can just as easily click the "edit" button.
Posted By: jfunk06
Date Posted: January 09, 2006 at 9:55 PM
Lol, im sorry. I just get alittle mad about kids that go to pep-boys and say their ride is comepletly custom. You know? But i do compliment the effort. Just have to think, is this set-up really worth it? It always helps to plan some things out BTW, make a few drawings. Post it on here, so we can tell you if its good, or if its gonna be trash so you dont trun the local boat supply into a millionaire because of the resin purchases~! ------------- Govenor of Jimcinati
93' GMC Safari XT
Posted By: TCalYen
Date Posted: January 09, 2006 at 10:28 PM
darthness wrote:
thats what im thinking. although instead of installed, i would us ethe phrase "losely toss in" take all that crap out, and seperate all your wires, and install everything neatly. twist ties are your friend!
YO FELLAS... HE SAID IT WAS A TEMP JOB...! Let him do what he wants to do without flamin' him. He just working with what he has obviously. Let him be. Post "progress" pics! ------------- TCalYen
Posted By: StlS_Ron
Date Posted: January 10, 2006 at 4:31 AM
Ive been on this forum for bit now. I take what most of these guys say as gospel. Im in the process of finishing my first glass box now. Everyone here or atlease everyone here that has worked with FG knows how much work youve put into it. ALOT!. but some are conserned that their is a "easier" or "better" way of doing it. dont let the flaming affect your car. but take into consideration some of the vets on here that advise certain things. ive never used free air subs. hell ive never ported. but these guys will help you with your questions the best they can. keep goiing with it, finish it up, 1/2 finished projects suck. post pics. I want to see progress pics. ------------- Ya my radio sucks.
Oh by the way I cant spell!!!
Posted By: youngone
Date Posted: January 11, 2006 at 2:43 PM
ya man gust keep going and you will get it right in the end. don't be put down by other people. gust be careful and keep going. were there is a will there's a way.  ------------- Want to know some good equipment- JL,Adire Audio,Mcintosh,Brax,Helix,Eclipse,JBL,RE,Dimoand Audio,Zapco, pritty much anything DYhon,Forbidden recommend
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Posted By: _juice_
Date Posted: January 12, 2006 at 7:21 AM
ummmm...im kinda skeered to post pics of my stuff now...i mean damn...i have had some projects turn out twice as bad as his is looking...i have gotten better with the enclosures but havent gotten around to glassing any of them yet...thats the plan for the one im building now though.
LOL...you all talk about the
"Fire Hazzard Pic"..i thought people were always playing about mine being a fire hazzard when i was in high school untill that one chilly morning on the way to school...my friend was like "Damn man, whats that smell" we turn around and look and there it was...my back seat was BLAZING...the whole car was burnt to a crisp before the fire truck got there and wouldnt ya know we were right infront of the school...you know how embarassing that was?..lol
anyways..atleast the dude has determination on doing his car the way he wants it..as long as he's happy, im happy for him. and id like to keep seeing pics of the progress too.
BTW....The big hood scoop in the pic, the one that looks like it belongs on a top fuel funny car...do you still have it? if you do...do you want to sell it? i need it for my rail buggy
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Posted By: total_overkill
Date Posted: January 12, 2006 at 7:32 AM
Yeah I still have it. needs a little FB repair. Well thanks for the encouragement guys. No matter what I am finishing it. Cant have no back seat and no box. I have gotten the top of the new box almost FB'd. While I was waiting for the resin to dry I decided to go on with another project I've been thinking about. I have been wanting to make taillight covers and decided to since I had nothing else to do while waiting on the resin. Going to cut out a nice design Not sure if I want ovals or circles ect. I am going to cut out little arrows on the turn signals though. 
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Posted By: _juice_
Date Posted: January 12, 2006 at 4:28 PM
you wanna sell the scoop?
pm me with a price if you do
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Posted By: jfunk06
Date Posted: January 12, 2006 at 5:31 PM
I like the arrow idea A LOT! ------------- Govenor of Jimcinati
93' GMC Safari XT
Posted By: total_overkill
Date Posted: January 12, 2006 at 7:27 PM
Actually I think I came up with a great idea for the brake light design too. Instead of circles or lines I am going to go with Iron crosses across the span of the brake lights starting medium size and progressively getting bigger. 
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Posted By: kirktcashalini
Date Posted: January 12, 2006 at 8:30 PM
lol needed to comment on the first comment talking about it being overkill? nooooo, look at his name haha.... yeah thats pretty sweet. I am glad you got good deals on all that, because thats alot of stuff. cant wait to see final pics, and i hope you get a nice crossover with nice adjustabilty for all that setup. should be sweet.
also how much you spend on all that wiring?! if you got any left over send it over when your done haha ------------- 99 Blazer LT. Yellow Top. Big 3. Infinity Kappa Speakers All Around. Jensen CD/DVD flip out. 2 Infinity Kappa Perfect 12DVQs powered by a Alpine PDX600.1 (in one custom box, building a FG box)
Posted By: StlS_Ron
Date Posted: January 12, 2006 at 9:37 PM
im not into the tail light covers, but, what about just putting grand am in them or something like that. lets see some more of the progress pics.
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Ya my radio sucks.
Oh by the way I cant spell!!!
Posted By: jp68dart
Date Posted: January 13, 2006 at 12:03 AM
just because you have a bunch of stuff from different companys does not mean you can"t have a bangin system.getting everthing from one manufacturer is no gaurentee of compatibility in your system because your vehicle may differ or your tonal pref. may be different than mine.THE REAL THING THAT MATTERS IS THAT YOU LIKE IT ,YOU ARE SAFE SO YOU CAN KEEP ENJOYING CAR AUDIO!!!!!!
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Posted By: 97blackrodeo
Date Posted: January 13, 2006 at 5:58 PM
After reading this post again and looking at the pictures, I wish you would have asked for some suggestions and help before you started. There is so much wasted time and material here, but hey thats how you learn. Not the best methods but if it gets you where you want to go, godspeed. Keep the progress pics coming.
Posted By: jfunk06
Date Posted: January 13, 2006 at 8:54 PM
I dont know about the cross man. I dont know about up in God's country, but down in the states that whole look is WAY played out. Thats just IMO. If you like it do it. But keep the arrows, if nothing else, for me!
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Govenor of Jimcinati
93' GMC Safari XT
Posted By: placid warrior
Date Posted: January 13, 2006 at 10:23 PM
jfunk06 wrote:
I dont know about the cross man. I dont know about up in God's country, but down in the states that whole look is WAY played out. Thats just IMO. If you like it do it. But keep the arrows, if nothing else, for me!
Well being that its not a religious cross, does it make a difference..that cross is either a nazi medal type cross or west coast choppers type cross. I've seen the cross thing done before and it looks pretty cool...also seen skulls and whatnot, so its up to u.
Posted By: total_overkill
Date Posted: January 14, 2006 at 12:40 AM
I am doing the crosses because every one has circles and I have not been able to find anything like this anywhere so I made it, I can also easily do even more tail light overlays in differnt patterns. I am really starting to like FB.. 1 of a kind is always SWEET. Also got the sides done on the box now. just 1 layer . All I know is I have spent way too much time doing this to the point my wife thinks I'm crazy. I envision the final product though and it is 1 of a kind and OverKill =]. I know every seam, every wire, every asset of it all. I didin't pay to have it done. I did it. ------------- 40 grit has saved my life sometimes =[
Posted By: total_overkill
Date Posted: January 14, 2006 at 12:39 PM
Updated photos of new box. Just going to link em from now on so I don't have to type it all out twice. https://www.grandsontario.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=52&t=10343&st=15#entry111118 ------------- 40 grit has saved my life sometimes =[
Posted By: deagle50ae
Date Posted: January 16, 2006 at 1:05 PM
hey. good to see you're making great progress. it's deffinitely turnign into something. can't wait for some final products. naysayers be gone
Posted By: p&gcustoms
Date Posted: January 18, 2006 at 10:27 AM
darthness wrote:
can we get more pics of your riced out car?
are you mexican btw? (no offense...)
that was wrong im a mexican and my trucks looks nothing like that not all mexicans have to have some chuntaro looking ride with flames and lights us mexican down south in houston keep them looking droped and clean not some ugly as wiring thats shhh is sick and not the good kind thats not show quality half that stuff shouldn't be ther
Posted By: total_overkill
Date Posted: January 18, 2006 at 9:25 PM
I can agree with certain points. But I also have to say that I am not a paid professional doing this for a living, although the time invested that I have done might as well be another job. As I have repeatedly said Yes I will upgrade it later when I can afford to, I feel grateful for what I have. as for wiring again I am not the total profesional but here I can say I do understand it a fair bit. I ripped every wire switch out the other day to make room for the 1 guage coming through. I ran every wire and know what it does not had some one do it for me. I am doing the best I can with what I got. I myself am not racial, I even have quite a few Mexican friends. Yes even in Canada. So please do not even think that in any way. I believe also he was making a joke about all the crap in my car and just profiling his theory. Still not a racial. Can't we all jsut get along. =[. All I know is that I see people get mad, bash, flame ect almost as much as I see them trying to help. Isn't this what this place is for????????? to get some help. even in everyday life if some 1 keeps putting you down you eventually get a complex and give up or tell em to shut up. I myself do it so I am not condemning either. But I try not to just shoot off right away. I do give the benift of the doubht. ------------- 40 grit has saved my life sometimes =[
Posted By: StlS_Ron
Date Posted: January 19, 2006 at 5:14 PM
dont sweat it bro. just remember unfinished projects suck. I will say this. this is the best board as far as flaming goes. a very professional atmosphere here. thes guys will help you, thats why alot of them browse here. keep the pics coming im glued to this topic.
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Ya my radio sucks.
Oh by the way I cant spell!!!
Posted By: total_overkill
Date Posted: January 19, 2006 at 7:27 PM
I try not to quit. Put a bit more work in. https://www.grandsontario.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=52&t=10343&st=15#entry111441 ------------- 40 grit has saved my life sometimes =[
Posted By: jfunk06
Date Posted: January 19, 2006 at 8:05 PM
I hate to hand it to you, it is looking a lot better than before. The way you started is questionable, but if it ends up alright, then no harm done. Can you go over the setup again? What is going in the box(seat box)? ------------- Govenor of Jimcinati
93' GMC Safari XT
Posted By: jfunk06
Date Posted: January 19, 2006 at 8:08 PM
placid warrior wrote:
jfunk06 wrote:
I dont know about the cross man. I dont know about up in God's country, but down in the states that whole look is WAY played out. Thats just IMO. If you like it do it. But keep the arrows, if nothing else, for me!
Well being that its not a religious cross, does it make a difference..that cross is either a nazi medal type cross or west coast choppers type cross. I've seen the cross thing done before and it looks pretty cool...also seen skulls and whatnot, so its up to u.
Thats not what i meant brother. What i am saying is, around here, everybody has iron crosses, along with fake bullet holes, and O.C.C. stickers. Just saying, IMO, too many people are using them to be cool anymore, feel me? ------------- Govenor of Jimcinati
93' GMC Safari XT
Posted By: total_overkill
Date Posted: January 19, 2006 at 8:55 PM
I was thinking that also about the crosses thanks to your post actually and came up with a few new designs for the tail lights.. The box isnt a sub box, Its going to hold a secound battery, amps, capicitors, computer, power inverter, custom fusebox I made for ALL the lighting and add on stuff . Made grounding plate right in the fusebox., 
The radio unit itself, A 10 pack mp3 stacker. Main power distribution blocks and grounding plates, a toolbox with extra fuse ect for quick repairs. 4 6X9's were going to go in, but the magnets would mess with the computer. Gotta shield the computers box anyways. I am making it so it can be upgraded along the way. the entire underneath section is FB'd right to the floor and will have racks ect made to hold everything. What it does is get it all out of the trunk. (easier to steal there.) ------------- 40 grit has saved my life sometimes =[
Posted By: jfunk06
Date Posted: January 19, 2006 at 9:05 PM
They sell Blade type fuse boxes(you know, the kind cars come with normally, i forget the leter, ATC maybe?) Anyway, they make those, for cheap, like, 4bux for 4-6slots. Could be a lot easier to use than the glass kind. AND, you can carry all the same, instead of glass for the lights, and blades for the car. Just a suggestion. Also, are you using relays for the lights? I dont know how many you will have in a continuous circuit, but if it is too many, usuing a relay will take strain off of your switch, and let you run ultra thin wires for your switches, instead of needing a heavier gauge for more power! ------------- Govenor of Jimcinati
93' GMC Safari XT
Posted By: jfunk06
Date Posted: January 19, 2006 at 9:07 PM
total_overkill wrote:
I was thinking that also about the crosses thanks to your post actually and came up with a few new designs for the tail lights..
I'm glad you picked up on that, because how popular they are, youlle do all of this custom work, and find a pair exactly the same for 20bux on the internet, or start seeing them on everyone else's car. Now THAT, would piss me off! ------------- Govenor of Jimcinati
93' GMC Safari XT
Posted By: total_overkill
Date Posted: January 20, 2006 at 10:02 PM
jfunk06 wrote:
They sell Blade type fuse boxes(you know, the kind cars come with normally, i forget the leter, ATC maybe?)
Yeah Ive seen them. https://cgi.ebay.com/dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewItem&item=5855176256 But I was bored one night and made that. It works great actually. I can even tie one into ignition type events if I want ect. and add any type fuse (amp wise) I need for lighting anyways. The main fact is that it is fused though right. ------------- 40 grit has saved my life sometimes =[
Posted By: mi_what
Date Posted: January 21, 2006 at 9:49 AM
Hey bro glad to see it's coming along smoothly. I just came across another thing you might want to take into account (not flaming in anyway).
I shattered a 5.6" monitor once by having it too close to the subwoofer. I'm not sure what size computer monitor you're using (I think you mentioned 15" though) but it might be too fragile because it's not really meant for that much rattling. Just something to think about. I would hate for you to get it all finished and three to four months later you bust your monitor.
Posted By: jfunk06
Date Posted: January 21, 2006 at 12:27 PM
I was refering to a cheaper model, like, maybe 4-5dollars tops. For your lights themselves, not with a digital blah blah blah display. And please tell me the fuse box is a tupperwear with a smiley face lid! :)
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Govenor of Jimcinati
93' GMC Safari XT
Posted By: darthness
Date Posted: January 21, 2006 at 12:29 PM
all those electornics into one box? fire hazard, here we come!
Posted By: jfunk06
Date Posted: January 21, 2006 at 12:33 PM
It won't catch fire man, looks like hes got everything covered.
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Govenor of Jimcinati
93' GMC Safari XT
Posted By: Nxt g
Date Posted: January 24, 2006 at 12:22 PM
that wiring job is soo dangerous ever think about cleaning up your wires runnin em properly instead a perfectly nice car because pretty much thats what you have done and the "Fire hazard picture" Seriously man you need to learn how to hide your wiring because thats jus nasty i saw your car pics passenger side floor ewww try gettin longer wires and hide them under the side mouldings and hide pull out the carpeting in the trunk and run ur worings under there then put the carpet back in just a helpful notice besides all that the job is nice
Posted By: mi_what
Date Posted: January 24, 2006 at 1:40 PM
Holy shhh people, READ the post before you put your two pennies in. We have already given the man enough talking to about wires. That is unless "g" you think you can wire a car better than the professional installers on here. He has a fire extinguisher, and if he blows his car then he blows it.
Other than that; welcome to "the12volt.com". 
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