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Integra Fiberglass Enclosure Version 2.0

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Topic: Integra Fiberglass Enclosure Version 2.0

Posted By: justtegit
Subject: Integra Fiberglass Enclosure Version 2.0
Date Posted: March 03, 2006 at 5:19 PM

Well guys, call me freakin crazy for destoying a ton of hard work and expensive fiberglass....but I have begun rebuilding an inproved design of my custom fiberglass sub enclosure.

Some of you may remeber my thread:

DIY custom fiberglass trunk setup

If not, you can see how I built it the first time around. I knew a pretty good deal then about fiberglassing, but unfortunately I was working with limited tools (i am at college and use a relatives garage to work), and I was afraid of tight tolerances. This led me to build off of a speaker ring that was COMPLETELY INADEQUATE, and as such led to a number of problems that I am now fixing.

The first ring as you can see in my old thread is only 1/2" MDF to begin with, and the width of the ring was less than 3/4", and it was very choppy since I cut it with a jig saw (i didnt have my router at school).

This led to flexing in the ring when i stretched the fleece, and as such the sub never sat flat, causing an air leak around the rim. It also didnt allow for a perfectly shaped and air tight fiberglass tunnel into the lower box portion. The ring was also only a single ring, makingi t a surface munt sub. I have always though flush mounted subs wre cleaner, but since i was afraid of clearance for the hatch glass I didnt do it. I now know that with modification the the plastic trim in the hatch I can easily fit a bigger flush mount ring. So....

I created this big-ass MDF ring while home for Xmas this year (I miss my woodshop and tools more than anything else while being at school, lol)

I will measure the actual outer diamter but it is somewhere near 18 inches!!! I dont know anyone else with an 18 inch sub ring in their integra cargo cover, lol.

Hereis what it looked like, as well as the initial construction pics up until fleecing. I will glass it next weekend ans update with new pics as I go.

Oh, and as far as other upgrades - I will be using a much better contact cement to bond the vinyl so that I dont have bubbling issues with direct sunlight like before. As well, I will be eliminating that ugly squarish transition form the viyl to the carpet, and will be replacing it with a vinyl wrapped cover. I will also be making endcaps for the amp out of sections of PVC pipe wrapped in black vinyl. The tope will of course remain black vinyl and the bottom will get new carpet. I am also going to supposrt it from underneath a little better, and before it just rested on wood block on the false floor.

Enjoy!

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New work:

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I put the CD on their to establish scale of how big the 18 inch ring really is...

UPDATE: 2-19-06
Well this weekend I fiberglassed that mutha bitch. I soaked the fleece in resin, then added a few layers of real fiberglas mat for strength. The glass does have to be very strong since it is purely cosmetic and no actual sound pressure will be exerted on it (except for the small tunnel section). I cut out the middle of the ring and exposed the tunnel. I then stapled and fiberglassed new fleece inot the tunnel area to direct all sound pressure into the MDF portion of the box. This will create a totally sealed enclosure, as the air is contained entirely in the MDF box portion and the small area i am referring to as the 'tunnel'. Next week I will be sanding like crazy and adding alot of BONDO to smooth things out in preparation for the vinyl. Enjoy the nex pics!

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UPDATE: Well I didnt get as much done as I wanted to this weekend sicne i needed to backtrack a little and redesign the tunnel since the subwoofer metal frame was hitting the fleece once i glassed it the first time.....had to get out the Dremel and cut up last sundays' hard work :( Anyway all of the Bondo is now done and I just have a bit more sanding to do next weekend and then I will cover it in vinyl and carpet and doo all of the finishing touches...I cant wait to get this beast back in my car sounding better than ever!

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Posted By: jlord16
Date Posted: March 04, 2006 at 6:25 AM
it looks quite good now

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Posted By: justtegit
Date Posted: March 06, 2006 at 12:06 AM

FINISHED PICS ADDED 3-6-06

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Posted By: SoundAudio
Date Posted: March 06, 2006 at 9:59 AM
I like that.  It turned out really nice.

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Posted By: HottAccord
Date Posted: March 07, 2006 at 9:18 PM
Wow, looks really good! I cant count how many times I wanted to rip apart projects and re-do them, so I give you a lot of credit for that! Nice job! posted_image

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Posted By: justtegit
Date Posted: March 08, 2006 at 2:37 PM
thanks guys...yea it was a tough decision to rip it all apart, but i figured what the hell - at least it gave me a project ot work on for a few weekends...a nice repreve from the rigors of being a civil engineering student all week long, lol




Posted By: younguru
Date Posted: March 23, 2006 at 7:12 PM
Looks really clean and good nice

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Posted By: g-twizzl
Date Posted: March 23, 2006 at 11:15 PM
yo man, you're enclosure looks real real nice. that 18 must pound in that little integra. props with the flush mount too! it's a little more work, but that's the only way to go in my book. nice freakin work mane and keepon glassin!




Posted By: Pr0to
Date Posted: March 23, 2006 at 11:26 PM
does that thing fit in the stock trunk shelf hinges and clear the hatch closeure?




Posted By: bikeboard15
Date Posted: April 02, 2006 at 11:26 AM
Great looking project. And nice job on the "tunnel". I was half expecting that to be left exposed, which would've made for some really weird waves in that box. Also, the Acura logo on the back really finishes it off. Super clean, especially for a big 18. Props man!




Posted By: blufab
Date Posted: April 03, 2006 at 12:12 AM
That is an awesome build. How many total layers of glass did you use, it had to be a lot. Also do you have any trunk rattlling problems or are you using sound deadening material?




Posted By: justtegit
Date Posted: April 06, 2006 at 12:07 AM

thanks guys for the comments...

first to clear it up: its a 15 inch sub (Ascendant Audio Atlas 15")  not an 18"...when I said 18" ring i meant the outer diameter of the ring was 18", which is what was tough to fit in the cargo cover since there is a very limited dimension between the back seat and the hatch glass...an 18" sub would definitely not fit in an integra in the method I used...

As far as layer of glass blufab - to the contrary, i used very few.  As explained in the first post I believe - the glass portion (top part) has no sound pressure on it.  If you look carefully all of the sound pressure is exerted only on the tunnel and the 3/4" MDF box below.  The tunnel is the only glass with sound pressure on it, and since the tunel is only a few inches high, it only required a thick layer of resin on the fleece and then 2-3 layers of glass around it...hard as a rock even with only 3 layer tho.  I think i only used like 2-3 layers on the whole top as well...

As for how it is mounted - like i said the dimensions are very tight, and I have had to modify the plastic hatch liner pieces to accept the new large speaker ring as the hatch closes.  It sits in the regular hinges for the cargo cover, but all that weight cannot be supported by those plastic panels (i tried, and it sqeeks like a mother F'er, and sags the panels)...so I created a false floor of MDF for the hatch, and made an adjustable support for the box from underneath using 3/8" threaded steel rods bolted to the false floor.  Four rods bolted in vertically are adjustable to just reach the bottom of the box (about 2 inches above the floor) and transfer the weight to the car chassis.

Thanks for the comments again guys :)





Posted By: justtegit
Date Posted: April 06, 2006 at 12:14 AM

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There is a daytime picture of it all shined up with some Meguires NXT :)





Posted By: dragon51
Date Posted: April 06, 2006 at 5:53 AM
That looks really nice




Posted By: sprawl85
Date Posted: April 06, 2006 at 6:22 PM
awesome job man, i like your choice of toppings on the box and everything. How is the sound quality? I know ascendant has good products.

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Posted By: justtegit
Date Posted: April 10, 2006 at 10:47 AM
sprawl85 - it sounds bitchin...with this new box I can really tell the difference in how clean it sounds...i would get some resonance from certain frquencies before i rebuilt it, but now the entire range from 125Hz and below sounds clean and tight as hell....hits pretty hard too for just 360 RMS being fed to it....Ascendant makes very efficient subs with their XBL^2 technology




Posted By: hakosuka
Date Posted: April 13, 2006 at 8:23 AM
it looks so clean... very nice, i like the way you finished it




Posted By: teg93
Date Posted: June 17, 2006 at 12:04 AM
yo man thas pretty sick, i'm wonderin if anyone here know or has seen or some like that of a complete custom fiberglassed box for the entire truck of a 2 gen integra, i'm working at visions and planning a large custom car




Posted By: spookiestylez
Date Posted: June 17, 2006 at 12:15 AM

not bad, kudos!!



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Posted By: mouglie
Date Posted: June 17, 2006 at 5:34 AM
that looks so sweet!

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Posted By: Cougar.Modder
Date Posted: June 17, 2006 at 8:59 PM
SWEET BOX,

It looks to my like black vinyl on the covering, am I right? If so, was it hard to cover? I would love to cover mine with a matching grey as my leather once my box is done but might be hard with the curves.

Love your work!!!

Great Job!!!

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