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Topic: custom fiberglass steering wheel

Posted By: blackonblackgsx
Subject: custom fiberglass steering wheel
Date Posted: June 20, 2006 at 1:33 AM

Want to know how do i create a fiberglass steering wheel. i saw one in a magazine a while back, by fishman i believe and always wondered if its a hard task to tackle? Any info will be greatly apprecciated.  thank you in advance




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Posted By: djfearny2
Date Posted: June 20, 2006 at 6:45 AM
not to lie it would probably be very hard to do that the first time. Your not talking about a flat pannel your talking about a structurally stong rounded surface. however it can be done but it will take some misstakes along the way for someone that may or maynot have used carbon fiber before.

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Jon
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mecp certification is not always needed. I have it and it has not helped me out at all. my experience out shines it.




Posted By: carguy411
Date Posted: June 20, 2006 at 9:07 AM
was it fiberglass or plexiglass?
i remember seeing him do a plexiglass one in a van i believe




Posted By: djfearny2
Date Posted: June 20, 2006 at 9:30 AM
sorry i read the wrong thing. like posted after me i belive it was a plexiglass steering wheel. made with a clear casting resin. which is basically fiberglass as well. the hardest thing is to make the mold.

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Jon
Installer/Help Technician
---coral springs florida---
mecp certification is not always needed. I have it and it has not helped me out at all. my experience out shines it.




Posted By: Melted Fabric
Date Posted: June 20, 2006 at 5:11 PM

Do you have a sketch of what you want it to look like?

Will if just be round and circular like a standard steering wheel.  I can give some insight as to how to start it, but I need a design or shape to go off of.

I draw some designs when i get home and post them to see if I can help materialize it.



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Posted By: blackonblackgsx
Date Posted: June 21, 2006 at 3:04 AM
hey guys sorry hadnt had a chance to get back at your replies, well i dont know how to put up a sketch up so the best way i can describe what im trying to go for is a steering wheel thats cut in both ends (upper and lower), i believe some or all formula one race cars have steering wheels like what im talking about, also i would like to add two accessory buttons on each side, sorry cant be more informative. Thank you guys for all your help!




Posted By: Melted Fabric
Date Posted: June 22, 2006 at 10:39 AM

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I know that is a bit elaborate, but that overall shape.  Is that what you are going for?



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I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work.

When you do not know what you are doing and what you are doing is the best -- that is inspiration.




Posted By: sawhit4
Date Posted: June 22, 2006 at 10:40 PM

if you do wish to cast it out of clear resin, i believe i can lend a hand.  Alumilite makes very good products.  First off, it will be very hard to get a crystal clear part.  Small bubbles will form in the resin, and will show up in the finished part.  You need to pressure cast it to force out the bubbles.  A pressure vessel big enough for a steering wheel will be very costly.  You could cast it in just about any color you want using dyes.  That would make it look much better.  Also with clear casting resin, you would need to make the part perfect, or pretty close to it, because any cut you make will have to be polished back to clear.  But if you are still interested heres how to do it. 

First step is to make the part EXACTLY how you want it, out of wood or plastic.  Any non pourous material will work.  If you use wood be sure to seal it with something like clear coat.

Second thing is to make a mold.  You will most likly need to make a two part mold.  The guys at alumilite can explain it much better than me, so check out their website.  www.alumilite.com

They cover the rest of the process at that website.  They also sell RTV rubber and casting resin that will work for your project.  You will also need a very precise digital scale to mix the resin, like a jewlers scale.  hope i've been of some help.





Posted By: blackonblackgsx
Date Posted: June 28, 2006 at 12:47 AM
Thank you guys for all your help, seems that it would be a very expensive project to persue so I might as well just buy a sparco steering wheel or something similar, again, thank you guys!!!!!! 




Posted By: Melted Fabric
Date Posted: June 28, 2006 at 1:07 AM
Sparco is great, but if you get the funds in the future, I would attempt the project anyway, nothing costs as much as you may intially think sometimes.

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I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work.

When you do not know what you are doing and what you are doing is the best -- that is inspiration.




Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: June 28, 2006 at 8:16 AM
The main thing I would be concerned about is if your using this as a daily driver steering wheel or not. The concern here is how your going to attach the steering wheel to the metal splined steering column ? Remember that the steering wheel has to be able to be strong enough to turn the wheels at a stand still and also crumple ( not shatter ) in an accident.

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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA




Posted By: Melted Fabric
Date Posted: June 28, 2006 at 12:44 PM
Never knew about the crumple part.

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I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work.

When you do not know what you are doing and what you are doing is the best -- that is inspiration.




Posted By: 5150azn
Date Posted: June 28, 2006 at 6:25 PM
I've been thinking about his one most of the day. I can't get past the picture in my head of being impaled by the steering spindle after the steering wheel breaks away during an accident.

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Posted By: hoopty388
Date Posted: August 11, 2006 at 6:21 PM
heres an Idea, all the steering wheels I know of have a metal core. If you got one from a junk yard and put it in a nice hot fire it would remove everything but the metal core and then you could lay fiberglass over it, having style and security.

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Posted By: Flakman
Date Posted: August 12, 2006 at 2:07 AM
There was actually a DIY article in Car Audio and Electronics a month or so back that did the steering wheel. Used the original hub to maintain the airbag and made a steering wheel around it. I think they used some sort of acrylic. Looked cool. Would not have to worry about being impaled or not having an airbag. I'll have to check which issue.

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The Flakman
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John | Manteca, CA




Posted By: Melted Fabric
Date Posted: August 13, 2006 at 5:58 PM
Yea, I would like to read that article. Good looking out.

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I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work.

When you do not know what you are doing and what you are doing is the best -- that is inspiration.




Posted By: layzboy
Date Posted: August 14, 2006 at 3:22 AM
the article you referred to is in the March 2006 issue of Car Audio and Electronics. It's vol. 19 no.3. I'm not gonna lie, for someone with no fiberglassing experience this project would be a tough one, but it definately doesn't look impossible. Dave "fishman" Rivera shows a how-to in 8 steps on page 78 of the magazine. He uses casting resin (basically liquid acrylic) which is the clear part of the resin that settles at the top of the tubs it's made in. Fiberglassing is generally done with tooling resin which is the brownish color. I haven't used much casting resin, but when I have dabbled it was a little pricier than tooling resin just because of the way it's made. If you do choose to follow the how-to in the magazine, it should work exactly the same with plain fiberglass resin since it's the same thing just a brownish color. You would just have to wrap the wheel in whatever fabric you choose.

Hope that was at least somewhat helpful for my first post on this forum.




Posted By: hzemall
Date Posted: August 14, 2006 at 10:13 AM
The easiest way to make a new steering wheel is to simply make it out of Plexiglass. It would be harder then pouring one out of a resin and would not "blow up" like one made from casting resin.

Simply make a MDF "mock up" of what you want and router it with the plexi to get a perfect piece, then round the corners and polish the hell out of it.

I wouldn't do it on a daily driver though, there are hundreds of quality aftermarket wheels out there that should suit anyones needs.

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Tim Baillie
Installer/Designer/Fabricator
Certified Autosound & Security




Posted By: torquehead
Date Posted: August 14, 2006 at 6:41 PM

Hey, hey, hey....wait a minute, this is a fabrication forum.  Make the dang thang....uhhh, dang it!!!  7 out of the 17 stearing wheels I have fabricated similar to your description was made from 5/8 rebar.  Get some decent lengths of rebar (your going to have to determine how much you need according to your design).  Cut only one at first, weld it to a factory steering wheel plate from a salvaged unit if you want.  Using a torch, heat/bend to the desired shape to act as a foundation.  Weld the bent rebar (I usually use 3 bars of rebar together to form a large enough bulk for the foundation), weld it to the wheel plate, even if you have to buy one of the Grant adaptors.  From this point on, turn on the front, back, left, and right sides of your brain and use your imagination.  You can pack the bar/wheel with foam/expanding foam, glob bondo filler all over it.....anything you want to bulk up a shape (I packed one steering wheel with bondo after the foam build, then put on some rubber gloves and squeezed the steering wheel to have finger imprints on the fore-side of the handles).  By the way, if you want to imbed some buttons or switches into your wheel, dont forget to wire the steering wheel first before you pack on the body filler/ect.  You could get even more raw with your metal skills and wrap it in steel sheeting, tig weld it, rivet it or whatever you desire.  These are some general ideas to set you back on the CORRECT track, which is FABRICATION.  But, if you want a clear plastic one...to each his own.  Ill leave you all with a web-site to provide you with some visual candy that may pop a spark into your sights....some of you veterans may remember this car....

https://iweb.alpine-usa.com/html/adc/adc_install5.html?par=p1c5

....when you first get on this webpage, scroll down to the bottom and pick "13", the last picture of this page is the very beginning of the steering wheel.

If you want to see the forefront of the site, here.......

https://www.stevebrownuniversity.com/links/links.aspx





Posted By: Melted Fabric
Date Posted: August 15, 2006 at 1:37 PM
Damn, I was looking for the link to all of Alpine's demo cars. Thanks for posting it again. I was trying to show anothe member them.

And yea, if you can think of it, fabricate it. If anyone reads these forums, they better have a motive of making something in mind. We are the members of the DIY coalition. To go out and buy something that is pre-made like a head unit is nuts! BUILD IT yourselfposted_image

Well, I do not fully expect everyone to reach inside and bring out the electronics engineer within themselves, but yea. All things that can be done with out EXTREME EXTREME research and development, go after it. Then again, if you want to be all out custom, feel free to take it on.

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I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work.

When you do not know what you are doing and what you are doing is the best -- that is inspiration.




Posted By: torquehead
Date Posted: September 06, 2006 at 7:46 PM

So, what ever happened to this post??????????????????  Did I blow this project out of the water or are you finally busy bustin' your balls fabricating your bad ass steering wheel?  If so, lets see some pics, but if not, what the heck happened? 

Com'on you, Im'a all anxious and stuff!!!!!!!!!!





Posted By: broughtdown
Date Posted: September 07, 2006 at 1:23 PM

i understand that in order to have a steering wheel like this it can not be a daily driver, but you still have to move a show car some.... drive it a little bit, wouldnt a fiberglass wheel.... break? Maybe start off with the factory wheel and cut away unnessary places then build off of that?





Posted By: torquehead
Date Posted: September 07, 2006 at 7:17 PM

No, of coarse not...  Even if it were constructed of fiberglass only, it would be useable for normal driving.  However, if you wreck your car, that steering wheel is toast, especially since the airbag is no longer there.  But none of mine are ever "ONLY" constructed of fiberglass.  Ill take it for granted that you didnt read any of this posting before you asked that question....being I fully explained the use of re-bar for base structure for the designed figure the customer requested.  I do use foam as well as fiberglass to cover and finish the housing parts for electronics when desired.  Our upholstery acquaintence finishes them sometimes with a soft padding then leather or whatever the customer requests.

I have used a factory wheel, burned all of the plastic/rubber off of it to expose the metal structure and built from there.  All of my fabricated stearing wheels are used a minimum of 5,000 miles per year (I only know this being my mom is an insurance agent and insure alot of our streetrod / lead sleds / mini-trucks / kit cars / ect. and they all report more than 5k per year.)

If your a driver like me, your hand pretty much stays on one part of the wheel, and your elbow rests on the top of the door panel, and my other elbow resting on my formed and fabricated center floating console.  My steering wheel is constructed as a single "D" shaped triangle...if you will.  I have a steering quickener like the racecars use.  I only have to move the "D" about 7 inches either way from center to lock - lock.  This enabled me to have a large console thats molded with all the freaky amp racks, DVD/stereo, TFT/LCD screen, LED indicators, gauges, switches, power cap, glowing plexiglass emblems, epicenter crossover networks, pneumatic stick shift....all in a '95 SuperCab Ranger. 





Posted By: broughtdown
Date Posted: September 08, 2006 at 7:23 AM
torquehead--- thanks man i appreciate it! send me some pics. of your work to broughtdownkustomz@yahoo.com if you dont mind? i enjoy looking at peoples work!





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