91 nissan maxima 1st project
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Topic: 91 nissan maxima 1st project
Posted By: pimpilicious
Subject: 91 nissan maxima 1st project
Date Posted: July 01, 2006 at 4:59 PM
hey all first i wanna thank everyone thats tried to help us thats new to fiberglassing . thissite is great very informative so i thought i'd share my project . ill update when i can just keep looking . this enclosure will be for a audiobahn 15 . lets start off with the car  
old sub box hit 141. not to bad 
ok hers the project pics 
taping everything off takes forever . but i wouldnt attempt to rush though this step. doulde check for places you might have missed . 
i mixed alittle bit of resin and just glazed everything and cut all the mat into placed . also i used some spray adhesive super 77 by 3m great product 
so here goes the glassing 
so this is what i did today still waiting for it to cure . will update when i do some more. thanks for looking comments welcome
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Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: July 01, 2006 at 5:40 PM
From the looks of it you need to soak the matting more. I see alot of white in the last few pics. The spots that are not resined will be soft and will be a problem when you add more layers onto the enclosure to thickness. Also, make sure that you do at least 3-4 layers before you remove the mold from the trunk because of warping.
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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: pimpilicious
Date Posted: July 01, 2006 at 7:51 PM
yea i went back over it with some more resin then i ran out maybe it will be enough to be strong . thanks for the comment on waiting before i remove it .i didnt know it would warp . thanks
Posted By: killer sonata
Date Posted: July 01, 2006 at 7:57 PM
Heres a little tip for ya. Instead of trying to coat the whole area at once, do little areas at a time and make sure the mat is thoroughly soaked. its looking good so far though.
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"People with mullets live 40% longer" - Ricky Bobby
Posted By: pimpilicious
Date Posted: July 02, 2006 at 3:21 PM
ok ive come to a conclusion . bondo brand resin sucks! why is it so thick? its like it just dont want to soak through the mat . i know a guy that order resin from some company . its really thin compared to bonda resin . is thin resin easier to soak through mat?it seems like thick resin would be better soaking though fleece or something. help me out guys never done a "big" fiberglass project before.oh yea the resin that guy gets comes in a gallon jug. he said its like 30 bucks sound decent priced? thanks all
Posted By: killer sonata
Date Posted: July 02, 2006 at 8:10 PM
$30 sounds about right. I like the elmers brand resin you can buy at Lowes. I know home depot carried it for a while but i think they switched back to the bondo brand. I never had any trouble with the bondo resin though. What is your method of apply the resin to the mat? I find it easiest to use a cheap bristle painters brush and dap the resin onto the mat.
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"People with mullets live 40% longer" - Ricky Bobby
Posted By: sawhit4
Date Posted: July 02, 2006 at 9:26 PM
Go to www.westmarine.com and use the store locator to see if theres a store near you. They sell gallon sized containers of resin for around $30 and it will work much better than bondon brand. Also buy some cheap disposable paint brushes from walmart (like $0.60 a piece) and trim the bristles down to about an inch. You can use it to sort of push the resin into the mat. You might as well go ahead and stock up on cheap paint brushes or atleast acetone.
Posted By: killer sonata
Date Posted: July 02, 2006 at 9:34 PM
if you have a harbor freight store in your area they are always having sales on their boxes of 2" painters brushes. Usually you can get a box of 36 brushes for $9 or something like that. a quarter for a brush isnt bad.
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"People with mullets live 40% longer" - Ricky Bobby
Posted By: pimpilicious
Date Posted: July 03, 2006 at 12:01 AM
i bought like 10 of the cheapest brushes walmart had they was like 60 or 80 cents each . the brissles are only like an inch long and maybe 3 inches wide. these are the same brushes ive used since the project start . i just soak the brush with resin and just kinda dab it on the mat until it looks soaked .but it seems like it should soak better .maybe im just new to using mat . ive always used cloth on smaller projects i think it works great . i might go get some cloth and try it for a while. is there a big difference between cloth and mat ? strong wise? thanks guys you all been helpful
Posted By: caprice91
Date Posted: July 03, 2006 at 1:50 AM
good doodie
Posted By: Melted Fabric
Date Posted: July 03, 2006 at 11:30 AM
pimpilicious wrote:
This shot looks great showing the layers of raw fiberglass in the place you want it to be, and it conforms to your area well. Like Jeff (Velocity) said up above, you still have some white areas, indicating the resin was not absorbed well in that area. The 3M Super77 product you used was alright, but it is a better idea to let the resin be your adhesive. You want your resin to soak from the top of your layer(s) all the way down to where the masking tape is, and it will change the color from white, to the color of the resin when properly soaked. It will be almost "see through" in a sense. Other than that little tid bit. The project is looking really damn good. ------------- I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work.
When you do not know what you are doing and what you are doing is the best -- that is inspiration.
Posted By: pimpilicious
Date Posted: July 09, 2006 at 4:04 PM
finally got the new resin looks 100 times better that bondo brand. well nothing much done but heres where i am now anyone used that brand resin? 
here the paint brushes that i cut down to about and inch 
i couple ppl suggested that i wasnt using enough resin and soaking it good enough and i agree but now i sanded down some air bubbles and really put the resin to it . this at 4 layers . may do one more 
il make the ring this week sometimes and stretch the fabric .
Posted By: Melted Fabric
Date Posted: July 10, 2006 at 10:07 AM
Good looking shell. Yea I think over half the people on this forum has used that, lol.
Are you only putting the enclosure on one side?
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I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work.
When you do not know what you are doing and what you are doing is the best -- that is inspiration.
Posted By: pimpilicious
Date Posted: July 10, 2006 at 4:55 PM
well as of right now i only have a sony explod 1300 watt amp. it pushes the sub ok . but just dont think it would look good fiberglassed. i bought the amp from a bud of mine for 60 bucks. i thought it was a good deal. maybe if i get a better looking amp i will do one more on the right side.
Posted By: Melted Fabric
Date Posted: July 10, 2006 at 9:50 PM
Yea, symmetry is always a plus.
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I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work.
When you do not know what you are doing and what you are doing is the best -- that is inspiration.
Posted By: pimpilicious
Date Posted: July 11, 2006 at 10:26 PM
heres the amp i was talking about earlier 
Posted By: killer sonata
Date Posted: July 11, 2006 at 11:58 PM
yep, thats walmarts finest right there! lol
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"People with mullets live 40% longer" - Ricky Bobby
Posted By: Melted Fabric
Date Posted: July 12, 2006 at 10:04 AM
lol, I cannot believe they actually "try" to sell car audio, it is just odd to me.
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I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work.
When you do not know what you are doing and what you are doing is the best -- that is inspiration.
Posted By: crazyoldcougar
Date Posted: July 12, 2006 at 8:40 PM
pimp, about your earlier question, yes there is a major difference in strength between cloth and mat...cloth is only strong across it's weave, generally axila strengh is in one direction or biaxailly (2 directions) fiberglass mat consists of long strand fibers bonded at any and all angles, thus giving it strength in all directions...
looks pretty sweet so far for a shell..two tiny tips though that will make life a little easier next time around...
1. tear your mat, it will blend together easier with one and other pieces, and not leave you any bumps at the edges.
2. draw your out line onto the masking tape, when you fiberglass over it, it will transfer onto the shell.
other then that keep up the good work, and yeah select products is a pretty common brand for DIY'ers...evercoat also makes decent resin.
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Fiberglass Guru.
Posted By: pimpilicious
Date Posted: July 12, 2006 at 9:40 PM
killer sonata wrote:
yep, thats walmarts finest right there! lol
actually believe if or not its not a bad amp . i just dont like the looks or what most ppl think about sony stuff . like i said 60 bucks was a good deal. i needed a amp quick and here was one .
Posted By: srsoupy
Date Posted: July 16, 2006 at 11:44 AM
pimp good lookin shell there how many layers of mat did you add? ------------- soupy
Posted By: satfrk32
Date Posted: July 18, 2006 at 12:20 PM
looks sweet, nice job so far.
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cheers!
Posted By: pimpilicious
Date Posted: July 18, 2006 at 5:44 PM
i finally got my rig made . flush mounted and routered edge looks real clean. i dont have pics of the mounting of the speaker ring or the streatching of the fleece.my girlfriend has the(her) camera lol of well all is good and i think this project is gonna turn out pretty nice. i just layed the 2 layer of glass. no air bubbles laying down really well . thanks for the advice on tearing the mat and not cuting it (crazyoldcougar) you the man . works wonders . ill have pics up tomorrow hopefully . good day all
Posted By: tackbradley
Date Posted: July 18, 2006 at 5:59 PM
hey PIMP. i didnt notice any foil. did you have any problems with the resin getting through the masking tape? i see people doing 3-4 layers with foil...just in case. looks good so far my man!!!
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~Jason
(516) Drum Co.
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