alt. to resin 4 smooth glass look

here is somthing i have come across in my box building days. many people have plane wood boxes in there cars or trucks. most with carpet. here is a way to get that glassed over look without the high cost of resins. just take elmers white glue and paint it on with a brush. make it kinda thick around 1/4in. or so. when it drys it will be smooth and if done right no air bubbles or pin holes. also when it drys it will be clear. so eather you can just clear the box with auto clear or you can paint it.

also if you want more than just a square box you can use fome or wood to add some shape to it. just get your fome or wood cut it into the shape you want. glue it to the box and then elmers glue over that part to.

i myself glass everything. this if for the people that are looking for somthing other than glass or bondo that is quick ez and cheep to do.

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derrr i like apples

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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA

lol @ Velocity

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I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work.

When you do not know what you are doing and what you are doing is the best -- that is inspiration.

ive heard of ghetto before but DAMN!!!!!!!! thats one hell of a first post to this site lol.

oh and just so you know its not fome, its foam. Not trying to give you any doodie, just helpin. Doesnt glue eat most foam?

well i think you could accomplish the same thing with a little fleece quart of resin and a few trim rings and it will much better quality heck my lumbar yard will give me scrap peices of wood sometimes and if your that tight find an old tshirt or something like that and a quart of resin is only like 10 or less i wouldn't want to give up quality, so something that cost pennys just end up doing it over cuz something will fail your a scarry person i hope this works out and is like a new trend so you can put this in our face but it is not looking good man sorry.

wow i think ill try that right away.           
on second thought i think ill try that never.

how much elmers would it take to cover a 2 15 box on all sides? hmmmmmmmm

I admit that is a bit extreme in a crazy way.   dark02, do not want you to get discourged. I will give it to you, it is creative, but not practical. You are new to the site and there is plenty to learn even to those of us who has done it for 15+ years there are always new techniques being invented.

Stick around and continue to experiment. Do not let this be the last post because of a little criticism. I look forward to learning some new techniques from you too.

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I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work.

When you do not know what you are doing and what you are doing is the best -- that is inspiration.

spary paint loves up foam, in my experience. and thats a lot of glue, i'm pretty sure 1 or 2 coats of resin would easier and cheaper.

darthness wrote:

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spary paint loves up foam

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...I um, have no clue what that means guy.

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I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work.

When you do not know what you are doing and what you are doing is the best -- that is inspiration.

like most i see. how come it is that if you know how to do it one way then that way is always the right way? just wondering how many of you have tryed this? dont dought it till you try it. and im not talking about huge boxes. im talking about small like 6-9 or 10" single boxes. and no the glue will not melt the foam ( thanks killer ). also here i can get a gallon of glue for less than $5.00. and with the glue when it has dryed all you have to do is scuff prime and paint. no bodyfiller no hours of sanding. this way you can have it done in less than a full day. with glass resin it would take up to 3-4 days to do it right. i guess i was wrong for posting this as i was only trying to help out with the other ideas part to fiberglassing. i thought that maybe a few people here would like the idea and understant that resin and fiberglass is not the only way to do it right. i always thought the right way was the way that works for you. i have used glue on boxes many times and never had any problems with it. anyway i guess thats what i get for trying to help. l8er

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derrr i like apples

how long would it take a 1/4 inch of elmers glue to dry?  Most of the posters here aren't trying to knock you, it just comes off as pretty impractical. 

dark02, another point that I wanted to bring up is how will the glue adhere to vertical planes on enclosures that are located on the sides of trunks ? The glue's consistentcy is too thin to allow it to dry without having running streaks on it. At this point you will need to sand down dried glue & end up having to have to use body filler.

Your technique is something that is not flawed, rather it is isolated to a few projects that can support the technique. Instead of learning to do it " the right way " ( or should I rephrase that and say " an alternative method" ) you went about it another way, but with the alternative method you have an infinite amount of projects that can be accomplished. Honing your skills with the alternative method as many installers here have done, you can create many more intricate ideas into reality and can cut time and costs down alot if done correctly.

In my world, saving a couple of dollars over saving a couple of hours is not an option.My time is worth more that the raw materials that go into a sub enclosure hands down & using a techinique that will cause more time for drying, sanding or otherwise is a method that IMO is flawed for many ( not all ) types of projects regardless of if I've tried it or not.

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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA

Do you have any problems with the glue melting in the sun while in the car?

sawhit4 wrote:

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how long would it take a 1/4 inch of elmers glue to dry?  Most of the posters here aren't trying to knock you, it just comes off as pretty impractical. 

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I concur....

But at any rate, like Velocity said, time is of the essence, especially when  you are being paid. If consistency is big, there are many ways to change the consistency of resin-based products (fillers etc.) to make it easier to spread and/or self leveling. You can use anything from heavy filler (thick) to MEK thinned resin (i wouldnt thin it too much though) to make your finished surface, and chances are it will be a hell of a lot stronger than glue. Resin is used because it is relatively solid, and very rigid. heat wont make it soften. And i'll admit i have never tried the glue method, but i dont see glue as being a solid, stationary material. There are just so many different options that are resin based and tough, that using something soft like elmers glue doesnt seem like it would be the most time-effective approach.

In my last project, i used all sorts of filler/resin mixtures for different applications. One of my magic mixes was pretty much the consistency of high build primer, and it took little sanding to complete. im not knocking your methods, but when i think of something thats going in a moving vehicle, i tend to lean more on the side of rigidity and solid adhesion.

So do whatever works for you, we're not insulting you here, just trying to give you some perspective from our own experiences.

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Yea, and I once chewed a whole pack of gum and used it to stop the rattles in my door panels, but that does not make it a legitimate method for stopping rattles. 

Juicy Fruit works better than Big Red, by the way. 

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DYohn] wrote:

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Yea, and I once chewed a whole pack of gum and used it to stop the rattles in my door panels, but that does not make it a legitimate method for stopping rattles.

Juicy Fruit works better than Big Red, by the way.

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So bad !!!

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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA

I stay with fiberglass, thanks

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DYohn] wrote:

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Yea, and I once chewed a whole pack of gum and used it to stop the rattles in my door panels, but that does not make it a legitimate method for stopping rattles.

Juicy Fruit works better than Big Red, by the way.

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LOL, you are wrong for that, lol

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I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work.

When you do not know what you are doing and what you are doing is the best -- that is inspiration.

hell, i just say go to wally world , get a 8 dollor can of raddle can bed liner and be done with it . if done right its quick easy and looks pretty good in the end.  the only prob is you better like the colors black and white cause thats all i think it comes in. lol

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