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Topic: liquid fiberglass?

Posted By: 03blks
Subject: liquid fiberglass?
Date Posted: September 18, 2006 at 7:21 AM

Ok i am pretty mew to all of this but i was wondering if there is any kind of liquid fiberlass or somethin of that sort. the reason i ask is because i am making a mold of eyelids and want to be able to just pour the fiberglass in and let it harden. it will be a 2 side mold so it will be enclosed. is there anything like this that i can use. i thought this was the shape would be perfect everyime



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Posted By: killer sonata
Date Posted: September 18, 2006 at 9:35 AM
well the resin is liquid. You can buy chopped fiberglass and mix it in and pour in your mold.




Posted By: Melted Fabric
Date Posted: September 18, 2006 at 10:35 AM
There is also fiberglass soup.

4 teaspoons of salt
1 pint of resin
2 whole onions
Diced Fiberglass mat
Your favorite bread to go with it.


Now, I would not necessarily eat that, but I felt like throwing a little humor around this morningposted_image

But, I would follow k-sonata's recipe and you should be good to go.

I recommend you try it out in small portions first.

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Posted By: 03blks
Date Posted: September 18, 2006 at 11:49 AM
ll look into that thank you. what about plastic. i know it can be a liquid and turned into solid. how could i go about doing that?
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Posted By: crazyoldcougar
Date Posted: September 18, 2006 at 3:17 PM
you are most likely looking for a urethane product...

they range is hardness, from: those sticky hand things you used to use to pick up dollar bills etc...as a kid to as hard as a piece of PVC pipe...

that way you can have a flexible mold witha rigid plug to make your parts from...remove the plug and peel away the mold...and presto perfect parts everytime...or what ever...

either way just google urethane

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Posted By: Melted Fabric
Date Posted: September 18, 2006 at 5:14 PM
If it is Urethane you are after, then here are a few resources, got better links at home, but I am at work for the time being.


https://www.artmolds.com/category76.cfm

https://www.lumicast.com/links.html

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I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work.

When you do not know what you are doing and what you are doing is the best -- that is inspiration.




Posted By: bellsracer
Date Posted: September 18, 2006 at 6:56 PM

We don't recommend using urethane for the eyelids. The heat coming off MOST headlight bulbs tend to distort it if exposed for extended periods (2 hours straight like on a long trip) It would be best to stick to resin and chopped mat. High Temperature Acrylic or polymer plastic are what headlights are usually made of. They are good too and do not distort easily. The hard part would be price (HTA) and/or availability (Polymer Plastic)

You can use urethane if you like, but it would be best to be aware of what can happen (not always)

Good Luck!



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Posted By: crazyoldcougar
Date Posted: September 18, 2006 at 9:08 PM
bellsracer wrote:

We don't recommend using urethane for the eyelids. The heat coming off MOST headlight bulbs tend to distort it if exposed for extended periods (2 hours straight like on a long trip) It would be best to stick to resin and chopped mat. High Temperature Acrylic or polymer plastic are what headlights are usually made of. They are good too and do not distort easily. The hard part would be price (HTA) and/or availability (Polymer Plastic)

You can use urethane if you like, but it would be best to be aware of what can happen (not always)

Good Luck!




i thought he is just looking for mold making materials...

i too wouldnt recomend making the actual eyelids out of urethane

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Posted By: torquehead
Date Posted: September 18, 2006 at 9:27 PM

...ditto to *Cougar...  he wanted to make molds to pour resin in, right? 

Make eyelid molds with urethane, peel off, fill with resin...ect.  Either way 03blks, I too would fill your eyelid (?urethane?) mold with resin and chop mat for the actual component that is intended to "BE" the eyelid for the headlight due to the elements.

...by the way Melted Fabric, great recipe!  But, Ive gotta throw in some oregano and garlic...and BAM! LOL





Posted By: Melted Fabric
Date Posted: September 19, 2006 at 9:45 AM
torquehead wrote:

...by the way Melted Fabric, great recipe! But, Ive gotta throw in some oregano and garlic...and BAM! LOL




"And next week folks, stay tuned for the secret recipe for urethane meatloaf!"

hehe, sounds like some kind of sex toy.posted_image

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I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work.

When you do not know what you are doing and what you are doing is the best -- that is inspiration.




Posted By: bellsracer
Date Posted: September 20, 2006 at 3:10 AM

crazyoldcougar wrote:



i thought he is just looking for mold making materials...

i too wouldnt recomend making the actual eyelids out of urethane

That's even worse. Resin heats up quite a bit as well. Being in direct contact (or coated contact) will distort the mold after a couple of uses because the surface flows during curing. It's best to use a high grade plaster (ceramic plaster) for the mold, then apply a VERY thin coat of wood varnish.

Our average mold lasts forever (pending nobody drops it) One of the tweeter pod molds we have has made over 150 pods and it is still pushing them out for custom work. Our shortest mold was a complex impression of a mask the customer wanted throughout his vehicle. We made 15 copies of the mask before someone pulled the piece out incorrectly and broke one of the elements. Because we used a good quality pod to make the pod mold, when we reproduce it, it's practically ready for finishing (if skinning it) or just sand with 600 for primer and paint hold. Total time to reproduce: 2 Hours including time needed for the resin to harden and cool, sand, and paint.



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Never send your ducks to eagle school.
The difference between ordinary and extraordinary is that little extra.
The 3Ls of life: Learn from the Past, Live for the Present, Look to the Future.




Posted By: bellsracer
Date Posted: September 20, 2006 at 3:17 AM
Melted Fabric wrote:

If it is Urethane you are after, then here are a few resources, got better links at home, but I am at work for the time being.

https://www.artmolds.com/category76.cfm

https://www.lumicast.com/links.html
I had Snow take a look at the links. Good idea but they were not designed for this kind of application. The first link's products are for low temperature molding and casting. The second link is for making molds for low and medium temperature urathane and rubber castings. We're curious to the other links. Please post soon. Thanks.

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Never send your ducks to eagle school.
The difference between ordinary and extraordinary is that little extra.
The 3Ls of life: Learn from the Past, Live for the Present, Look to the Future.




Posted By: Melted Fabric
Date Posted: September 20, 2006 at 10:42 AM
Not a problem, I will email myself to remind me to post the better links when I am home.

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I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work.

When you do not know what you are doing and what you are doing is the best -- that is inspiration.





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