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hey whats up im new hear im getting into fiberglass enclosers and i know what i wont to do but have a few questions on where i wont to relocate the CD player. i have a 97 blazer and i wont to fiberglass a 7inch moniter where the stock double din is and i have been looking for a good place to relocate it and was wonting to put it between the visors. the only problem i see is how to mount it there. i dont have a problem building the housing or extending the wires down the A-pilers just need ideas on how to mount it. here is a crappy MSPaint on what im wonting to do.

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O and no im not trying to put the rear veiw under it im putting the CD player in front of the rear veiw. i hope yall understand.

Consider getting a universal add-on case from someplace like Circuit City or Best Buy. It can mount to the roof so all you really need to do is just get the wiring up there. I am pretty sure that the roof has a bit of a contour at the front of the headliner so you will have to do some trimming to get a clean flush fit with the case. Then once you have the case ready, all you need is a small hole to route your wires through the headliner.

The case should be around $22-27.

Ganbatte ne!

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Universal add on case? Can someone provide a link for that?

LINK to one at circuit city, but best buy and most any audio shops should have this part in stock. This kit has a bit of a texture to it but could easliy be cleaned up and ready for a smooth finish with paint. Good luck on your project.

sS

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How would I mount that to my roof? I definitely don't want to drill screws through it. Glue?

jurb]H wrote:

w would I mount that to my roof? I definitely don't want to drill screws through it. Glue?

lol i dont have to ask any questions. thanks everyone for the info. i might buy 1 o those cases.

jurb]H wrote:

w would I mount that to my roof? I definitely don't want to drill screws through it. Glue?

You could glue a 1/2" - 3/4" piece of MDF to the roof of the car. I like to use gorilla glue and then have the wood held in place using a shower curtain rod (the ones that twist to open) with a little bit of pressure on it so as the glue expands, the wood doesn't shift. Then mount the casing to that.

Ganbatte ne!

pull your headliner out and mold a base out of fiberglass like you're building a molded woofer box and trime accordingly. make a din-sized ring and treat it like a small woofer box. then you can mount it be predrilling some 1/8" inch holes and using short screws to mount from the back (or top if you will) side of the headliner. you can cover it in the same material as the liner or whatever you want.

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But won't the weight of the unit (along with vibration from driving) cause the system to bounce and pull the headliner down? I think gluing the unit to something a bit more structural would make the install much more effective and take the weight off of the headliner. The only time I would install with the headliner as support is to also distribute the weight over a large area of the headliner by using a large board to distribute the weight.

I could be mistaken...

not neccessarily. are not overhead monitors installed on headliners? i agree some extra support shoulbe be used, but headliners themselves are actually quite strong.

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Not my shop or any of the other shops I have worked at... We always secured the units to hardpoints. Headliners tend to exagerate(sp?) the road bumps and in the case of heavier units, they buckle the headliners more often than not after a year or so and then the headliner will need to be repaired for the bend in the pressboard.

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i usually use 1/4" plywood or mdf behind the headliner and use a large piece to distribute the weight over a large surface area. i have never had any returns or repairs but with heavier monitor i do mount it to the cross brace if possible or liquid nails 1/2" mdf to the roof.

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"If a man made it, another can modify it...it just takes some thinking."
"If you ask questions, you're a fool for 5 minutes; if you don't, you're a fool for a lifetime."

hmm i like both your opinions and im still deciding on how to go about this. can i see any pics of install yall have on overhead monitors so i can see both of your sides (i do understand what your talking about would like to see it so i can decide what would be more likely better for my situation). Thank you both for your inputs.

I haven't had the headliner out of a Blazer, but every other vehicle I've had it out of at least had a support behind the windshield, going between the a-pillars. Ths is what the visors were mounted to and, probably, an overhead console would be braced to. My Vega actually had an inner roof panel, like a second roof, about 1" from the actual roof.

Personally I wouldn't rely on the headliner to support the weight of a deck, but I've never tried it either so it could work quite well.

Phill

I'm basing my answer on the location of the overhead... I don't think the unit is going to be in a zone that will be difficult to access for the driver. It'll be at the front of the headliner, where he won't be able to distribute the weight over a large area. It'll be close to an edge that is only supported by the visors and the front edge roll of the headliner itself. Not very strong. If the unit was to be installed in an area where the weight could be distributed better (such as the middle like a traditional overhead) then I would recommend my option and present the option that MSS said.

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Never send your ducks to eagle school.
The difference between ordinary and extraordinary is that little extra.
The 3Ls of life: Learn from the Past, Live for the Present, Look to the Future.

with the unit being that close to the front the visors would actually help hold some of the wieght. we are talking about a head unit...not a 30 pound amplifier. the vehicle has to have support at the front for the safety of the passengers and the weight of the windshield and downforce of the wind. none-the-less, the more support the better...i think the universal underdash pod thingy is not going to look very custom, though it would work.

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INSTALLER_MSS wrote:

with the unit being that close to the front the visors would actually help hold some of the wieght. we are talking about a head unit...not a 30 pound amplifier. the vehicle has to have support at the front for the safety of the passengers and the weight of the windshield and downforce of the wind. none-the-less, the more support the better...i think the universal underdash pod thingy is not going to look very custom, though it would work.

hehe... ^-^ Thank you... it isn't a 30 lb amp, but it is still an amplifier. Use the headliner if you want support, but you can never make something too strong.

Ganbatte ne!

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"If a man made it, another can modify it...it just takes some thinking."
"If you ask questions, you're a fool for 5 minutes; if you don't, you're a fool for a lifetime."

ever think about just putting the face up there? way back i did it in my probe. i used a computer harness i found at a local computer place that had enought wires in it and solderd them to the connections on the deck where the face would connect and connected them to the face and all i had to do was glue a littte tab down that let the radio think the face was on. you could pu tthe headunit in the glove box and just mount the face up by the mirror. i put mine onthe visor and re-wraped the visor. ill try to find pics but this was when digital cameras were $800 for a 2 megapixel so i didnt have one but i know i have regular pics somewhere

LOL... it's been a long time since I did a "faceplant" (Both of them) ^-^

I'm so glad that I am not the only one who does that or thought of it >.<

Yoroshiku!