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2004 dodge ram 1500 hid conversion

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Topic: 2004 dodge ram 1500 hid conversion

Posted By: Velocity Motors
Subject: 2004 dodge ram 1500 hid conversion
Date Posted: September 07, 2008 at 9:30 PM

Looking at getting some help on the above vehicle. Here's the problems and hope to hear some solutions if you have successfully installed one before:

Kit: 9007 Bixenon


1. Low voltage trigger from the OEM harness is not enough and causing the HID's to flash once per second.
2. High beams work fine with IGN OFF, but once the ignition is turned over, they start going in and out between HIGH and LOW
3. The lights flicker for 1/2 second when door is opened. This only happens after vehicle has sat for more than a minute.

What I have done and tried:

Installed a relay to be triggered from the OEM low beam harness. Power straight from battery, ground straight to OEM ground off fender, cut low beam wire and wired one side to 85 and the other to 30.

Cut OEM harness ground and wired directly to battery ground..... same problems.

Ran switched IGN power to trigger low beams, works fine but high beam still a problem. ( Would rather have the system work off OEM switch though.)

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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA



Replies:

Posted By: reax222
Date Posted: September 08, 2008 at 3:49 PM
Since it was effecting both the high and low, I would think the problem has something to do with the ground. The stock headlights should have 4-6amps draw each, that should have been enough to turn the HID ballast on and then they should draw power from the battery. It shouldn't take much power to activate the ballast.

You may want to try seeing how much current the ballast draws.




Posted By: enice
Date Posted: October 08, 2008 at 9:45 PM
Just like A post i answered earlier.  Use relays with resistors and the problem will go away.  With resistors the factory system will sense the proper resistance on the wire and keep it on.  We have done so many Dodge, Chryslers and have not had any problems when wired with the resistors.  We have relays with resistors prewired on them and plug them in directly to the factory harness.




Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: October 09, 2008 at 7:37 PM
Went a got some LCM's from a supplier and it worked like a charm except the fact that the DRL only give the HID's partial voltage and bobbles the lights.

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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA




Posted By: enice
Date Posted: October 10, 2008 at 3:04 AM

Be carefull.  DRL may damage a ballast.  If you can you should disable it.  Your customer will return with a problem.  As you may know, DRL work on low voltage and will not give full power to your HID.   But i noticed that in Canada cars have to have it .  Basically your customer is using the HID full power all the time and will reduce the life of the unit.





Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: October 10, 2008 at 5:50 AM
I know.... that's the trade off on the Dodge RAM's in Canada. Unfortunately, no way around the DRL problem other than full power.

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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA




Posted By: enice
Date Posted: October 10, 2008 at 9:51 AM
In Canada, are you able to disable the DRL if desired??? Or is it the law?




Posted By: lordfeyr
Date Posted: October 24, 2008 at 3:37 PM

VM/Enice

Do either of you guys make harnesses?  I have an 04 ram that i am putting acura tl projectors into and need a harness that will operator the high beam shutters while keeping the ballast running on lows.





Posted By: viperram
Date Posted: January 14, 2009 at 9:23 PM

I have a 2004 Dodge Ram, I installed 9007 bulbs (hid system). I am getting the flickering at the bulbs,even with the wiring harness and relay, installed capacitors and nothing seems to work. I understand a resistor will work also to prevent the flickering problem (which one can I use and where should I install it).

Ii anyone have any suggestions, please let me know,

Thanks,

Juan





Posted By: weedahoe
Date Posted: February 13, 2009 at 12:21 PM
Go over to DodgeTalk.com and they always have threads on HIDs in the trucks.




Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: February 14, 2009 at 10:02 PM

I figured it out a while ago. We have to use LCM's on each HID bulb and on each trigger ( high & low ). This will also stop the LAMPOUT error on the dash.



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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA




Posted By: diffduck
Date Posted: May 03, 2009 at 9:33 AM
oh man... hi so what did you do to fix this problem.... i've been ripping my hair out to find a solution. i have a 2007 ram and installed a h13 high low kit and got the lights flashing high to low when i start it up. and ya my DRLs werent working either. i am a mechanic to but this one stumled me big time.

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new hemi owner




Posted By: Tripnbeats
Date Posted: May 28, 2009 at 9:31 PM
Ok heres your solution...... in parallel to the power cables to the ballasts u need to plug in a 25volt or 35volt 4700uf electrolytic capacitor. radio shack has em and if that doesnt correct it...you need 2 wirewound resistors 6ohm 50watt preferably. again plug those in parallel to the cars harness and from there a relay being powered by the same lines the resistor is plugged into. then connect the relay to the battery and to the ballast the way a relay would supply power to ballast. good luck let me know if this helps if not theres a few more ways to make it work.




Posted By: diffduck
Date Posted: May 28, 2009 at 10:06 PM
i ended up subing my own truck out to the car salon in calgary and they spent 3 days on it to get it working... relays didn't work but the LMCs did work. not sure where they got it but i don' care lol. mind you less than a week later one bulb burnt out and the supplier i got it from wants me to pull the bulb out... cut the wires and send him a picture before he will send a warranty replacement. some guys who saw the wireing said if i leave the sockets empty while waiting for the bulb it will burn out the capacitors and or the modules..... did i mention im starting to hate my truck hahaha. so i guess ill have to reinstall my factory bulbs for the time being... hope they work .

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new hemi owner




Posted By: marez13f
Date Posted: February 16, 2010 at 12:01 AM
The Resistor works just worked on one the other day, but it has to be a hive voltage resistor.... the dodge puts out 14 volts the ballets only handles 12 so that could be the issue

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Justin Quirk




Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: February 16, 2010 at 9:01 AM

Just a side note for anyone reading this post. Canadian Dodge RAM trucks have DRL's and this is different than the US versions. If you have a US truck, your solution to the HID problem is different than the Canadian version and normally DOES NOT work with the Canadian trucks.



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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA




Posted By: weedahoe
Date Posted: February 16, 2010 at 10:49 AM
I have 9007 Bi-Xenon HIDs on my 2004 DR and they work fine. Here are some pics of the 6 ohm 50 watt load resistors used to trick the PCM into thinking there are bulbs there and stop the flickering or strobing and also resolve the Lamp Out issue on the dash.

One resistor goes from high beam wire to the common wire. The other resistor goes from the low beam wire the the common wire. The halogen 9007 bulbs are 55w bulbs. You need to use something like these resistors to make the PCM think the bulbs are there and supply the full voltage to the ballast. If the proper resistance is not supply either by the filament in the bulbs or resistors, then the PCM thinks the bulbs are blown and reduces voltage.

You can get these 6 ohm 50 watt load resistors off ebay for about $10 a pair shipped.

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Posted By: megabyte3000
Date Posted: February 20, 2010 at 9:23 AM

That part is all good fine with using the resistors but i have yet to find someone who could do the drl fix, It will be hard because dodge uses pulse modulation as there drl. So in other words the drl is not realy a low voltage being send it's regular voltage being send in spurts very rapid spurts. Call dudy pulse modulation. Very comon for the dodges to do this why i dont know it's horible. So after you have instaled your his with the relay and acouple resistors on a Ram that has drl you will notice that your drl will make a nice buzzing noise cause by the manget at the back of the bulb and at your relay because it is getting and on and off pulse and it's so rapid it sounds like a bee is in your healight. So if anyone hase a fix please feel free to share to the rest of use dumb asses, lol. Thanks for your time





Posted By: liquidaudio_ss
Date Posted: February 20, 2010 at 9:36 AM
FYI working on a proper fix for this hope to have it ready for the public in a few weeks.

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Liquid Audio Styling & Sound Ltd.
Red Deer, AB, Canada
403-352-2224




Posted By: megabyte3000
Date Posted: February 20, 2010 at 3:57 PM
All so a small thing i noticed on the install of the 50w 6ohm resistor dont put them in a harness mount them in a space with air flow they get realy hot my buddy burnt him self just by touching one after running for awile. So if they can burn sking they will sooner or later melt your wires and harness. I located mine by the rad suport so when driving the air flow will cool them.





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