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Forum Discription: Under Car Lighting, Strobe Lights, Fog Lights, Headlights, HIDs, DRL, Tail Lights, Brake Lights, Dashboard Lights, WigWag, etc.
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Topic: Controlling lights with a central device

Posted By: garrettjeepxj
Subject: Controlling lights with a central device
Date Posted: October 27, 2006 at 1:14 AM

I have and am putting a bunch of lights into my jeep. By a bunch i mean 11 kc lamps, undercar led, rock lights, interior and exterior strobe lights and in car neon glowire. I dont really want to have two billion switches to turn all these on and off. So i was wondering if theres some sort of unit, module, or device i could connect all these lights to and beable to control all of them in one place? i want to be able to switch them on seperately but without a bunch of switches. If you know of any thing or have any better ideas let me know because i dont really want to fiberglass a new console with tons of switches. Also if theres a unit with a remote that would be awesome cause its basically a show car and it would be cool to beable to control the lights outside the car. i found a unit with an lcd screen that controlled 6 lights. i didnt know if there was anything else like that?



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Posted By: master5
Date Posted: October 27, 2006 at 5:09 PM

A cheap way out is with relay(s). They are cheap, effective and one switch can control as many as you need.

Use standard automotive 12v SPDT relays.

Each relay can handle up to 40amps depending but I would stay 30 or below. Determine the total current draw of all your lights and divide the total current up if over 30amps for number of relays needed.

If this sounds good to you post back if you need a diagram, I will need some more info as well.

Good Luck



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Posted By: master5
Date Posted: October 27, 2006 at 5:12 PM

Oh I believe you want to control them all seperatly, but with only one switch or module?

Sorry can't help you there but perhaps someone else knows of something...sorry



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Posted By: garrettjeepxj
Date Posted: October 28, 2006 at 5:16 AM

Master5. you have it right. i just hate having like 15 or 16 switches in my consule. i want to be able to control them seperately but with only one module or box. i found this panel on plasmaglow.com called the control freak lcd touch panel. it controls 6 zones with an lcd screen. i didnt know if there was anything else like that out there? if you know of anything like that or have a better idea that would be great.





Posted By: master5
Date Posted: October 28, 2006 at 12:07 PM

Sorry, I don't but I will ask around as this is something I wmay have use for myself in the future.

I do believe there is a way to use a PC to control outputs, which could in turn possibly operate limitless components through a touch screen. In the past I worked with someone on a demo vehicle where we used a voice recognition system to do all kinds of fun stuff, move amp racks, turn sytems on and off so it is possible. It's been a while since building any show or demo vehicles, The last several years I have been training and installing consumer level systems But I bet there is a load of new technology out there that can do this.



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Posted By: Mad Scientists
Date Posted: October 28, 2006 at 7:18 PM

You could look into using a PLC controller with a touch screen.. how much are you looking to spend? What input (switch - touchscreen - etc) do you want to use?

Jim





Posted By: garrettjeepxj
Date Posted: October 29, 2006 at 11:43 PM
i asked this question on another forum and they told me that a pc would be a good way to go. i want to try to keep it under $600ish because i really think this would be a cool feature. If the controller had other uses i would be willing to spend more on it. Sorry Mad Scientists what do you mean by what input?




Posted By: ill-logix
Date Posted: October 30, 2006 at 4:33 PM

garrettjeepxj wrote:

i asked this question on another forum and they told me that a pc would be a good way to go. i want to try to keep it under $600ish because i really think this would be a cool feature. If the controller had other uses i would be willing to spend more on it. Sorry Mad Scientists what do you mean by what input?

I have something that sounds like it would work, its like a PLC.  Checkout ill-logix.com and let me know if you are interested.



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Posted By: master5
Date Posted: October 30, 2006 at 6:09 PM

hey, that ill-logix piece is nice.

any chance you can link me to a pic of the controller panel. It doesn't state if it is touch screen compatable ,etc.

If its in your price range this might be just what you need garrettjeepxj.

Thanx



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Posted By: ill-logix
Date Posted: October 30, 2006 at 8:12 PM
There is no touch panel, yet.  It does have a four button wireless keyfob that can be used to turn multiple things off and on.I can look around and see if there is some kind of panel available that I could interface to.  Our own panel is on the drawing board, but it wont be ready any time soon.

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Posted By: ill-logix
Date Posted: October 30, 2006 at 8:31 PM

Was just thinking.  I can program the PRC to use the four button key fob so that if you press and hold a button for 5 seconds, all the lights turn on,  if you press and hold it for another 5 seonds it will turn everything off...  To turn things on and off individually you could single or double tap a button on the key fob.  Just a thought.



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Posted By: master5
Date Posted: October 30, 2006 at 9:00 PM

Still a very interesting product. And having all the relays on board like that can definatly clean up the install as well as save time.

As it sits now using the fob, how many outputs can it control?



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Posted By: ill-logix
Date Posted: October 30, 2006 at 9:25 PM

Each button on the keyfob is an input to the PRC.  So if you press button 1 on the keyfob the PRC reads it.  With some programming you can make it so if you press button 1 on the keyfob 1 time in one second  it can turn and latch on output 1, press 1 time in 1 second again and it will turn an latch off output 1.  Press it 2 times in one second it will turn and latch on output 2, press it 2 times again it will turn off output 2.  You can do this all the way up to 8.  Or you could spread them out over all four buttons.  Then in addition to that if you press and hold a button for x seconds it will turn everything on, do it again and everything turns off.  It really is limitless.

You could qualify controls with other inputs as well,  for example the only thing you want to be able to turn on when the ignition is off is a few led circuits so you dont kill your battery.  Or when the ignitions has been off 10 minutes your under carrage lights will flash on for 2 seconds every 30 seconds.  This off course would require quite a bit of programming but you are only limited your imagination.  I know thats a little more than what you asked about but I wanted to give you and idea of the PRC's flexibility.

I just finished a folding side view mirror controller that folds the mirrors in and out depending if the ignitions is on or off.  Cant wait to hear how his installation went.



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Posted By: master5
Date Posted: October 30, 2006 at 9:38 PM
cool, thanks

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Posted By: garrettjeepxj
Date Posted: November 01, 2006 at 11:57 PM
Im def. interested. Any luck with panels? A touch screen panel would be awesome. I like the flexablity so i can expand in the future. Price$?$?$?




Posted By: garrettjeepxj
Date Posted: November 01, 2006 at 11:59 PM
And whats the demensions on that? cause i would like to mount that below my numark idj in my glovebox.




Posted By: ill-logix
Date Posted: November 02, 2006 at 7:56 AM
Its about 4.5"x7".




Posted By: diablo666l
Date Posted: November 28, 2006 at 1:13 PM

I have a pretty simple idea:

A lot of stuff on x10.com uses 12volt, and a lot of their products are remote controlled relays. There is a remote they have with 20 buttons or so on it, and im sure you could use that...its portable, and wireless, so you could put on a little light show from 20 feet away...



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