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Relay For HID

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Forum Name: Lights, Neon, LEDs, HIDs
Forum Discription: Under Car Lighting, Strobe Lights, Fog Lights, Headlights, HIDs, DRL, Tail Lights, Brake Lights, Dashboard Lights, WigWag, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=84748
Printed Date: April 29, 2024 at 7:54 PM


Topic: Relay For HID

Posted By: idungknoe
Subject: Relay For HID
Date Posted: October 27, 2006 at 4:06 PM

Is There A Way To hook up two relays to an HID for each side.  since it seems like one relay is not enough power for it?

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Posted By: genehewett
Date Posted: October 27, 2006 at 4:44 PM
First tell us what kind of problem your having. Also state what you have tried to correct the problem. If possible supply some wiring info and or brand and model of HID kit you got.




Posted By: master5
Date Posted: October 27, 2006 at 4:46 PM

A normal 12v automotive SPDT relay can handle 30 to 40 amps. Check the ratings on your hid's.

If you feel you need one for each side I can tell you how but will need a little more info on how you are wiring it up and the switch polarities.



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Posted By: idungknoe
Date Posted: November 03, 2006 at 2:38 PM
I got a Xenon Depot HID kit.  and It Came With Relays.  But When i turn it on for a little bit.  it starts flickering.  and the relay starts clicking.  when i take one of the relays out and only one relay is hooked up so that only one healight is on, it works fine.  what can be wrong?

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Posted By: KarTuneMan
Date Posted: November 03, 2006 at 3:13 PM

Where did you get the constant 12volts for the relays...?

Go directly to the battery, NOT the headlight harness



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Posted By: idungknoe
Date Posted: November 03, 2006 at 4:43 PM
i did go directly to the battery.  it is a 2006 bmw so it has the positive battery thing showing and thats where i hooked it up.  it will work for a couple minutes then start flickering because of the relay.  tried putting replacing the 20 fuse for a 30 and still the same thing happens.

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Posted By: KarTuneMan
Date Posted: November 03, 2006 at 6:03 PM
Grounded where? AND, did you change the relay(s)?

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Posted By: mustangfoo
Date Posted: November 03, 2006 at 6:17 PM

bad relay???  Trying switching it out for a bosch relay.





Posted By: master5
Date Posted: November 03, 2006 at 10:08 PM

Have to agree with everyone. Either a bad relay or you are losing voltage somewhere.

The quickest check of course is to change the suspect relay. But if that doesn't help you would have a much easier time troubleshooting with a meter.

Take voltage readings while the relay is "flickering". If the 12v+ is good it's a ground problem. Use continuity or resistance on the meter and make sure a solid ground is at the relay terminals that need it.

Could be something as simple as a bad crimp on a terminal or poor ground contact....it's a very basic circuit so finding the problem should not take more than a minute.



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Posted By: idungknoe
Date Posted: November 03, 2006 at 11:32 PM

"Grounded where? AND, did you change the relay(s)?"
It is grounded to the frame of the car.  Tried Using Different relays, i used ones from cars, and it just clicks too.

Have to agree with everyone. Either a bad relay or you are losing voltage somewhere.

""The quickest check of course is to change the suspect relay. But if that doesn't help you would have a much easier time troubleshooting with a meter.

Take voltage readings while the relay is "flickering". If the 12v+ is good it's a ground problem. Use continuity or resistance on the meter and make sure a solid ground is at the relay terminals that need it.

Could be something as simple as a bad crimp on a terminal or poor ground contact....it's a very basic circuit so finding the problem should not take more than a minute.""

The wierd thing is that it works perfectly fine, until like 15-20 minutes later.  It doesnt flicker right away, It only does after awhile so i dont understand.



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Posted By: mustangfoo
Date Posted: November 04, 2006 at 12:00 AM

can u show us a diagram of how the whole system is wired?  just throw something together in paint, as neat as possible, where everything is connected, fuses used, and relays used.  might be able to help, but this problem sounds weird. 

Maybe it isn't the relay, maybe it is the ballast ever think of that?

Does this problem happen on only one or both sides.

Give more specific detail please.

Thanks.





Posted By: idungknoe
Date Posted: November 04, 2006 at 1:28 AM
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""can u show us a diagram of how the whole system is wired?  just throw something together in paint, as neat as possible, where everything is connected, fuses used, and relays used.  might be able to help, but this problem sounds weird. 

Maybe it isn't the relay, maybe it is the ballast ever think of that?

Does this problem happen on only one or both sides.

Give more specific detail please.

Thanks.""

its too confusing to draw.  the thing is that it happens to both sides.  it flickers both at the same time,i dont think it would be the ballast because the relay clicks.  maybe low voltage coming through.  i dont know.  i need to know asap.  i heard if it flickers too much the ballast would burn out.



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Posted By: mustangfoo
Date Posted: November 04, 2006 at 9:30 AM
well if you cant help me out then I can't help you out.  Sorry bud




Posted By: idungknoe
Date Posted: November 04, 2006 at 1:21 PM
ill try to take a look at it soon and draw it out soon

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Posted By: master5
Date Posted: November 04, 2006 at 10:59 PM

Yeah a diagram could help. However I would not suspect the ballast causing the relays to click.

If the system was drawing too much current the contacts of the relay could burn up but it's logical to assume the clicking would be something to do with the coil of the relay not getting enough voltage so the spring is stronger then the magnetic field of the coil and it will "click".

Now even though this happens after time it still could be a bad connection..If something is heating up...well we know heat causes resistance..in turn, volage drop.

Once again a diagram of how it is wired is the only way we can get a clue as to what's wrong.



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Posted By: idungknoe
Date Posted: November 06, 2006 at 11:20 PM

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HIDs operate on 35W whereas halogens operate on 55W. In some vehicles, the difference in current will trigger a "low beam failure indicator." As a result, your HID Conversion kit will not function properly. This product will fix this issue so that you can install your HID conversion kit with no problems.

 

 

The Manufacture of the HID told me these would work.  Do You Guys Know What This is?  Do You Think IT WIll Work?



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Posted By: Mad Scientists
Date Posted: November 07, 2006 at 6:56 AM

If the relay is clicking, it sounds like the control wiring for the relay is the problem.. measure the voltage across the relay coil.. possibly either a bad ground or bad source.

Jim






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