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exide megacycle agm 200

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Topic: exide megacycle agm 200

Posted By: mazzasec
Subject: exide megacycle agm 200
Date Posted: February 04, 2008 at 5:40 PM

Ok well today I went into batteries plus to go check out the optima yellow top d31t model. I asked them how much they were and he said about 279.99. So then I ask them if they got any batteries of equivelant power but cost less. He said "ya" and directed toward the Exide MegaCycle agm-200. He told me he was the only store that carries them and will out do the optima d31t by ALOT. They were 199 and he said the price is soon to go up to about 400. So I picked 2 up to give them a try. Can anybody tell by the specs what kinda power they will be able to put out. Here are 2 links talking about them.

https://ir.exide.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=238386



and the bottom of this page

https://www.rvtradedigest.com/print/RV-Trade-Digest/Power-Products/1$3155



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Posted By: mazzasec
Date Posted: February 04, 2008 at 5:44 PM
and heres a better link

https://www.trailerlife.com/output.cfm?id=1281133




Posted By: sedate
Date Posted: February 04, 2008 at 8:23 PM

mazzasec wrote:

he said about 279.99.

That seems a bit high.  I think Advance Auto quoted me $420 after Colorado's ridiculously extortionist 8.5% sales tax - for a pair of Yellows a few months ago - I used to live on the East Coast and Batteries Plus is seriously overpriced.  They're good for obsure watch batteries or maybe for a Carbon Monoxide dector, but you should shop for car batteries at auto parts stores, seriously dude.  Or even three seconds on google:

https://www.autobarn.net/opbatdeepcyc.html

Free shipping and no sales tax.  I'd be real suprised if you couldn't fit that in your car - the difference between that battery and the exact size you are looking for is like 3/4 of a inch.  Battery bays are pretty forgiving.

mazzasec wrote:

So then I ask them if they got any batteries of equivelant power but cost less. He said "ya" and directed toward the Exide MegaCycle agm-200. He told me he was the only store that carries them and will out do the optima d31t by ALOT. They were 199 and he said the price is soon to go up to about 400.

I find this all highly suspect, particularly given that you happened to walk in right before the price was about to double. (?!)  Absolutely none of those Exide links give a amperage at the alleged 200 minutes of reserve capacity, so this number is totally worthless.  To be honest, the battery looks like a standard deep cycle - but for a RV?  I dunno - again there really isn't enough information to go on.  I can tell you that I wouldn't install lead-acid batteries anywhere near my stereo equipment - the Yellow Top's a dry cell - I would be MUCH more comfortable with spill-proof Optima's in my trunk than a sloshing acid battery.

I've been using Yellow Tops for awhile - these batteries are incredible - and I'd be extreamly suprised if ANYTHING of the same size could outdo the capacity of a Yellow Top by "alot."



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Posted By: mazzasec
Date Posted: February 04, 2008 at 9:53 PM
So the exide one isnt spill proof? I dont know much about batteries but i have been searching. I have been lookin at the kinetik hc2000 and the kinetik hc2400. Also i noticed linked above is a d34 series. I was looking for the d31 series. I heard that there was a pretty good diffrence on those to. But after you sad what you sad about the battery i bought i hope i can return it!




Posted By: sedate
Date Posted: February 04, 2008 at 10:22 PM

I mean return them for no other reason that you could get equivalent gear for less money - or better gear for the same amount.  I couldn't imagine those Exide batteries would outperform a standard DieHard deep cycle. 

Again, the d34 is a like 3/4 of an inch wider than the 31 - I installed a d34 in my 31 battery bay - this is a physical size thing, it doesn't make a difference electrically.  I'm sure you could get it in your battery bay, but the point really was that Yellow Tops do NOT cost 280 dollars anywhere except Batteries Plus.

Kinetiks are pretty popular amongst tuners these days, and from my understanding is comparable to the Optimas - outstanding for car audio installs - if a bit more expensive.  I don't really care for the stylings of the Kinetiks either - but that's not really a big thing.



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Posted By: mazzasec
Date Posted: February 04, 2008 at 10:44 PM
So there is no power diffrence between the 34's and the 31's? just size diffrence




Posted By: mazzasec
Date Posted: February 04, 2008 at 10:56 PM
heres a pic of it

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Posted By: sedate
Date Posted: February 05, 2008 at 12:01 AM

The 31's are a little taller and thinner - they have slightly different specifications as far as total capacity, CCA's, etc., but the point is that they are Yellow Tops that are built to take abusive current demands - and this is really the key here - not total power storage capacity but the ability take the abusive nature of a large, subwoofer amplifier.  Constant 100-amp spikes are much harder on an electrical system than, say, a steady 20-amp pull.

I mean - I'm sure the battery you got will do the job - you certainly paid enough for it and you are paralleling TWO of them.  All I'm saying is that for my money, I'd get Optima's.  Or Kinetiks - but not lead acid Exide batteries.  Here I do think specialty equipment is warranted and appropriate.  Reds or Yellows (well, Yellows) - but not Lead Acid fishing-trawler batteries.  I just don't think that is an appropriate solution.  Perhaps some members here would argue with me - I dunno.

It may not make a technical difference in your particular installation, but IMO a proper car audio battery (or two) is the *proper* way to do things.  Sort of like why you are fusing all over the place. 

ESPECIALLY when you are paying the same amount of money!



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"I'm finished!" - Daniel Plainview




Posted By: mazzasec
Date Posted: February 05, 2008 at 12:25 AM

Ya I understand i do want to do things properly. But as you stated above that you dont want lead acid batteries anywhere near your audio equipment. Now would there be as much hazard if the battery ISNT gonna be near the audio equipment? I actually plan to keep watever battery i do end up using under the back seat in my explorer cause they can fit




Posted By: mazzasec
Date Posted: February 05, 2008 at 12:28 AM
I probably am gonna get a yellow top i found a d31 on ebay for 230 shipped!




Posted By: sedate
Date Posted: February 05, 2008 at 12:37 AM

I mean the hazard here is really theoretical - and lead acid batteries start sloshing around - audibly - after a few months of use (if not when they're purchased).

I've heard some things - totally anecdotal but this kind of stuff scares me - of fumes emenating from them, etc.  I would NOT keep a lead acid battery in the passenger compartment or the trunk.  I mean what if you got in a bad accident and thing ruptured on a passenger - they'd be scared for life if not posioned to death.  The thing could catch fire, explode - I dunno. 

I'd get the specialty dry-cell batteries from Optima or even Kinetik - it would be my purchase.  I believe they would be technically better for your application mostly because of the way they handle voltage spikes - not so much because of technical capacity.  Like I said, the rest of my reasoning is more abject paranoia . . .

I mean, I'm really scared of global warming, too.



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Posted By: mazzasec
Date Posted: February 05, 2008 at 8:54 AM
Ya well looks like i am going to go to the optima or kinetik option. thanks for your advice man i feel everything that your saying i am returning the battery today




Posted By: mazzasec
Date Posted: February 05, 2008 at 11:32 PM
hows this battery?

https://www.remybattery.com/Products/Deka-Intimidator-Battery---9A31__9A31.aspx




Posted By: Mad Scientists
Date Posted: February 06, 2008 at 11:29 AM

From what I've read, the exide battery he has and the Optimas are all lead acid based AGM batteries.. WRT construction, they're all built the same way.

Jim





Posted By: sedate
Date Posted: February 06, 2008 at 4:25 PM

Mad Scientists wrote:

From what I've read, the exide battery he has and the Optimas are all lead acid based AGM batteries..

posted_image Yup!  I read the "lead acid" part without the "AGM" part.  I was up all night reading about the differences and technical design - although I still have major reservations about the Exides.

I still wouldn't put the things in my car.



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Posted By: mazzasec
Date Posted: February 06, 2008 at 6:42 PM
Well I did end up returning it sooo ill probably go to the optima or kinetik route. any opinions on the DEKA intiminator?




Posted By: sedate
Date Posted: February 06, 2008 at 7:29 PM

mazzasec wrote:

any opinions on the DEKA intiminator

Yea.  Go to the optima or kinetik route.

My feelings on the subject are simply that this is a very, very critical part of your stereo (and car).  Don't cheap out.  Buy the name brand.  Sometimes you want the name brand - and this is one of those times!  I've been through ALOT of batteries - a few fishing trawlers/marine batts like the excides when I felt like I really needed to save the money, I was never happy dude I'm tellin ya- the ONLY battery that has EVER stood up to my JL amps is my Optima Yellow.  They are just better.  I die by that brand.

Have you priced a pair of Yellows at Advance Auto or Pep Boys?  They can't possibly be more than 10 or 20 more than the Excides were!

I've never seen them priced up at $280 anywhere.



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"I'm finished!" - Daniel Plainview




Posted By: aznboi3644
Date Posted: February 06, 2008 at 8:49 PM
That battery should do fine...its an AGM battery so there shouldn't be any worry about spillage or gases.

kinetiks are agm





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