solo x 12 or fi btl 12

I can get either one for the pretty much the same price so money doesnt matter here. Powered by a Kicker ZX2500.1 and in a properly built and tuned box. Will be a daily driver set up but i do want it to hit hard with some SQ. Will be in the trunk of a 2000 chrysler 300M btw. So which one would you pick?

I'd take the fi - if just because it is a much better *looking* sub.

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Yeah i agree that look better but im not really concerned with looks as much as which one gets louder. Well that and how well they hold up. I hear the solo x isnt too reliable for daily use, havent heard much either way with the Fi. I can get the replacement for the solo x pretty cheap so i like that but seeing and reading bout the Fi BTLs they seem nasty. so idk

yea fi gear looks nasty as hell - can't say I've heard or seen them in action tho

I mean - I think Kicker is a sub-par brand, catering to the bling-teen-bling crowd - better gear can be had for the money.

But - the Kicker has substantially more cone area - being a stupid looking square sub and all - so it would be louder per watt.

I'd still get the fi.

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"I'm finished!" - Daniel Plainview

Fi.

I've heard some kicker and fi. Fi sounds great and pounds ass. get it.

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Sasquatch...
We know your legend's real...

I would personally go with Fi.I haven't heard a whole lot of their stuff but I've never been much of a fan of Kicker's square speakers.A lot of people buy them and like them, but the more experienced people in the business tend to say they lack efficiency for this reason:How do you take a round voice coil and match it up to a square cone?Back to the main subject though Fi Audio has some nice stuff and would be my pick.

The kicker plays one note, thats it, no music, it's a spl only sub, it was designed to get loud and sound bad while doing so. The Fi is basically Resonant Engineering before it turned gay, I believe the main designer guy from RE started his own company now called FI audio..

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2003 Chevy Avalanche,Eclipse CD7000,Morel Elate 5,Adire Extremis,Alpine PDX-4.150, 15" TC-3000, 2 Alpine PDX-1.1000, 470Amp HO Alt.

Conclusion: BTL baby.

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Sasquatch...
We know your legend's real...

i beg to differ... i work at a shop that is a kicker dealer.. and the solo x is suprisinly musical when in the rite box..... that sub can reproduce some of the deepest, hardest hitting bass u will ever hear... i am not familiar with the other sub... but one thing i can tell u in this... don't sleep on the power of the all heralded square... many other companies fear that woofer... after all mtx has one now....lol

another thing is this.... alotta people blow that sub for lack of power.... make sure u have that 2500.1 powered correctly and remember... that sub can handle twice that amount of power!!!!!!!!!!

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people don't blow subs with too little power

aznboi3644 wrote:

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people don't blow subs with too little power

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Here... here...!

Bad advice monster, HO-O-O-O-O!!!!! He's baa-aa-aa-ck!

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It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."

haem you know what I mean...clipping an amp to hell does not equate to too little power to me. To me too little power is too little clean power...not cranking the gain...lol

Id like to see someone jam a pure 2500 watts rms through a silly 22 awg wire that is wrapped around a coil, and tell me it doesn't melt..... 1000 wrms is more than anyone could ever need for a single woofer unless your doing burps.

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2003 Chevy Avalanche,Eclipse CD7000,Morel Elate 5,Adire Extremis,Alpine PDX-4.150, 15" TC-3000, 2 Alpine PDX-1.1000, 470Amp HO Alt.

aznboi3644 wrote:

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haem you know what I mean...clipping an amp to hell does not equate to too little power to me. To me too little power is too little clean power...not cranking the gain...lol

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No... I was greeing with YOU... The "bad advice monster" wasn't you! I was referring to skee-weezy

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It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."

ohhh.. okay... so adding the second 2500.1 to power a solo x is a bad idea... okay.... if u say so..... and thanks for the new name... i think i'll create a log in for that....lol..... be easy dude... the guy asked for an opinion.. so i offered one....

have u every heard a properly powered solo-x?????????

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skee-weezy wrote:

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have u every heard a properly powered solo-x?????????

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Yup, and I wasn't impressed, I have heard a lot of very impressive subs that could produce the same output with less than half the power and half the box size...and half the price. It's kickers Jackhammer.

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2003 Chevy Avalanche,Eclipse CD7000,Morel Elate 5,Adire Extremis,Alpine PDX-4.150, 15" TC-3000, 2 Alpine PDX-1.1000, 470Amp HO Alt.

lol@jackhammer..... like i said... i am just flat out wrong i guess... i gotta go hear this other sub when i get time... maybe then i could actually speak as if i know what i am talking about..... i am sorry for wasting everyone's time.... i obviously have no clue when it comes to this topic... i am gonna do somemore homework i guess.... where is a dealer in michigan where i could hear such a sub?????????

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haemphyst wrote:

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aznboi3644 wrote:

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haem you know what I mean...clipping an amp to hell does not equate to too little power to me. To me too little power is too little clean power...not cranking the gain...lol

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No... I was greeing with YOU... The "bad advice monster" wasn't you! I was referring to skee-weezy

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lol oh ok...I was wondering why. Mmmm stickies at the top of the forum are nice.

skee-weezy wrote:

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..... like i said... i am just flat out wrong i guess...
i obviously have no clue when it comes to this topic...

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If you think that people can blow a sub with too little power, then yes, you have no idea.

I am referring specifically to this post:

skee-weezy wrote:

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another thing is this.... alotta people blow that sub for lack of power.... make sure u have that 2500.1 powered correctly and remember... that sub can handle twice that amount of power!!!!!!!!!!

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That can't happen... Please read this thread... It explains it all... YOU CANNOT ELECTRICALLY BLOW A WOOFER WITH TOO LITTLE POWER. End of story. If you blow it, that's too much power. Period. If placed in a mistuned enclosure, you can MECHANICALLY overpower it, with as little as one watt, but we are not referring to mechanical overpowering.



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...and YES, I have heard a "properly powered" solo. As are so MANY of the Kicker woofers, they are one-note wonders... fart-cans... NOT anywhere close to a sound quality woofer, as far as I am concerned. SO MANY more products out there can beat it to the GROUND for SQ for far less money, with far less power, and many of those competing products can even compete with it in (reasonable power) SPL, as well. So Kicker builds a woofer with 10kW burp capabilities... Whoopie!

I love the web page for that thing... Kicker themselves admit that it's all "hype". I believe the word they use is: SOLOXHYPE. I'll buy that.

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It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."

if ya want SQ... get the fi btl... The solo x's are spl speakers... I have two of em (12").. I personally like the solo's.. I haven't ran across a song that my speakers cant handle.( on the low end of the spectrum)... My vehicle gives out b4 my subs do....lol They are loud and obnoxious.... But for everyday music... especially other than rap... The solo's are too much....   hope this helps..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQeX7RJSmBA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBGB5HVAKKU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9Jh4eoy7U8

btl's are far from sq drivers.

there is no doubt about that. but they have much more sq than the solo x's..(which wouldn't be hard to do)  lol