inline crossovers to use or not?
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Forum Name: Car Audio
Forum Discription: Car Stereos, Amplifiers, Crossovers, Processors, Speakers, Subwoofers, etc.
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Topic: inline crossovers to use or not?
Posted By: daboss593
Subject: inline crossovers to use or not?
Date Posted: April 12, 2008 at 5:33 AM
i have audiobahn abc600v comp matched mids and highs. they came with a inline crossover. of course ,half say use it for a paper weight. the other half say use it. i plan to use these at 4 ohms, and prob no more than the rec 75-100 watts rms. advice from the pros please. thanx
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Posted By: boogeyman
Date Posted: April 12, 2008 at 7:21 AM
use them
Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: April 12, 2008 at 9:06 AM
How were you planning to connect the speakers if you DIDN'T use them?
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It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."
Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: April 12, 2008 at 10:01 AM
"half say use it for a paper weight"??? Half of who? Obviously people who do not know what they are talking about! ------------- Support the12volt.com
Posted By: daboss593
Date Posted: April 12, 2008 at 11:16 AM
well i never said i knew jack did i? hence my nick name super noob. well they come with the option to use the inline crossovers or not to. to be honest their was no friggin book in the matched set? then the website is useless no info either. ive got nothing to go on here and to be honest ive never gotten such useless info in my life.i got a book on there subs and wiring them ahhhhhhh duhhhhhhh these are 6 1/2 mids, and matched tweets? to be honest i thought of running the tweets off the crossovers. and then the mids off the amp x-overs. all my amps have better than the normal cross over controls they are all alpine. with out any info to go on im alittle lost and wized. i can get the max and min specs. but they dont have the rec specs to go with the crossovers. if im in left feild guys put it to me thats why im on these forums. to do it right the 1st, time and to do it with no f-ck ups. thanx p.s ive sent 3 emails to audiobahn still no answer? they have scored 0 points with me. then again, i emailed infinity for my custom made box size req for a tuned box that would slam. it only took them 14hrs to respond?
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OWWWWWWWWWWW you said you discharged the cap!
Posted By: daboss593
Date Posted: April 12, 2008 at 11:41 AM
sorry forgot to answer the ? DYohn had most of these people im talking of dont know jack. the only one that does just got a job entry lvl in a shop. ive known him for yrs he said i could go either way. all the others wouldnt know a ground from, an rca BUT they all know it all. thats why they pay others to put their stuff in and tell people they did it LOOOOOOOOOL errrr sorry rant over. one of these guys had 3 diff ground for 3 diff amps in three diff spots on the car yep know it alls got to love them.
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OWWWWWWWWWWW you said you discharged the cap!
Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: April 12, 2008 at 12:04 PM
Audiobahn sucks, plain and simple. Here's what you do: Using speaker wire, connect one channel of your amp output to the input on one crossover. Connect one tweeter to the tweeter output and one woofer to the woofer output. Do this for each set. Be sure to set your amplifier gain properly. See pages 5 and 6 of your owner's manual, and if you don't have one download it HERE ------------- Support the12volt.com
Posted By: daboss593
Date Posted: April 13, 2008 at 4:48 AM
well as always i get told what i have sucks, and then i get told its decent. *sigh* to each there own. thanx for the manual.
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OWWWWWWWWWWW you said you discharged the cap!
Posted By: daboss593
Date Posted: April 13, 2008 at 4:54 AM
sorry about the double post here. i can assume the x-over has the norm built in caps for the mids and tweets. again no dam info on this. man you are right about these guys they do suck just take the $$$$$$$$ and run.
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OWWWWWWWWWWW you said you discharged the cap!
Posted By: i am an idiot
Date Posted: April 13, 2008 at 7:30 AM
You may or may not need to use the crossovers. We really need a little more information to be able to help you. I can only guess that you are running these speakers on a 2 channel amplifier. If so then yes you do need to use the crossovers. If they are going to be on a 4 channel amp or 2 seperate 2 channel amps, then you may not need to use them. As far as your Audiobahn Speakers, YOU are the one that has to listen to them. If YOU like the way they sound, YOU just keep on rocking with them. I will agree that there are better speakers out there. (Line deleted before posting) well I better stop there before I get in trouble.
Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: April 13, 2008 at 9:35 AM
The ONLY way "you may not need" the crossovers is if you are using a different sort of crossover, like running an active system. So let's be clear: in every case, you'll be using a crossover. Unless you are a very advanced installer, please use the system the way it was designed. ------------- Support the12volt.com
Posted By: i am an idiot
Date Posted: April 13, 2008 at 9:45 AM
I could have swore that the purpose of this website was to possibly help some not so advanced installers to maybe become a little more apt at overcoming obstacles. I guess I must have been confused. He asked about the inline crossovers. Nobody ever asked the very important question that really did need to be asked in order to answer his question properly. I never told him to not use a crossover. We really need a little more info from him to help him. If of course we are wanting to help him. EDIT I just went and re-read my post and noticed how I could have confused a rookie. So Daboss, when I said you may not have to use THOSE crossovers, I forgot to mention that you would have to use the crossovers built into your amplifiers. But before we spend a lot of time typing instructions, we really need to know how many amps you have.
Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: April 13, 2008 at 10:13 AM
Right. The OP, based on his posts, is not ready to try installing a bi-amped setup IMO. In most cases as I'm sure you know, using crossovers built into amplifiers is not going to cut it to properly set up a comp set. Plus, without the proper experience, not to mention the equipment needed to measure the T/S parameters of the drivers, or to test the Xover points and slopes in the passives, and without an RTA, the only way to get an active setup to sound right is by luck.  . To be clear: this forum is for installers to help each other, but also for installers willing to share their knowledge and experience advising the general public and the DIY guy. I could be wrong but this OP does not appear to be a professional installer but someone who simply wanted to know how to set up his speakers. ------------- Support the12volt.com
Posted By: daboss593
Date Posted: April 14, 2008 at 8:32 AM
since it appears i have a 72 iq which by far i dont. i opted just to take to my buddy and his lead installer. im not a pro but im by far not a noob. ive asstd on many installs and ive done a few simple ones my self. as a man i admit my limits, and its seems when that happens on these forums you are labled a deedeedee.
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OWWWWWWWWWWW you said you discharged the cap!
Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: April 14, 2008 at 10:18 AM
So how did your buddy install the speakers? ------------- Support the12volt.com
Posted By: daboss593
Date Posted: April 14, 2008 at 11:31 AM
he didnt i did? due to the fact i have 3 x5 ch amps and 1 x4 ch. if to fore go the x-over all together it wouldnt be a real issue. this is an ENTRY lvl system so i was advised to go with the provided x-overs that came with the speakers untill i upgrade. after the upgrade i was advised to use some of my uber audio control items i have sitting around.at this time he advised not to biamp. me did say after a nice upgrade it may want to think about it. bottom line i ran a 4ch alpine to my rear fill, and the 2 passive 2 way crossovers for the 6 1/2s and tweets.
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OWWWWWWWWWWW you said you discharged the cap!
Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: April 14, 2008 at 12:09 PM
OK, so it sounds like you did it correctly. Good for you. And by the way, it has nothing to do with being an entry-level system, it is the NORMAL way to use a component set. That's why companies provide crossovers - which are pretty difficult to design properly. And all-active system is ONLY for very advanced users and then only for specific tastes. I consider myself a pretty advanced user and I would not spend the time nor money to put one in my cars. Use the passives - that is why they exist. ------------- Support the12volt.com
Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: April 14, 2008 at 2:28 PM
DYohn] wrote:
consider myself a pretty advanced user and I would not spend the time nor money to put one in my cars.
Chicken.  ------------- It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."
Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: April 14, 2008 at 3:13 PM
haemphyst wrote:
DYohn] wrote:
consider myself a pretty advanced user and I would not spend the time nor money to put one in my cars.
Chicken.
 Actually I just wouldn't want to show you up... 
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