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Topic: audible diff between 1 ohm or 2 ohm?

Posted By: bumflik
Subject: audible diff between 1 ohm or 2 ohm?
Date Posted: April 29, 2008 at 6:01 PM

Is there a audible difference between wiring a subwoofer 1 ohm or 2 ohm? I looked it up and they said that there is no diff. that the human ear can pick up but I wanted to ask the pros, so what say you guyz?



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Posted By: wishuponansg
Date Posted: April 29, 2008 at 6:12 PM
im not a pro... but from what i know it depends on the wattage difference. but ive also heard that there is not really a big difference, not enough to be able to tell atleast.




Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: April 29, 2008 at 9:11 PM
In theory, 3dB louder on the SAME amp, but in practice, less than 3dB difference, and that's if the amp even truly doubles power from 2 to 1 ohm. Usually they can't.

Acoustically, ZERO difference.

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It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."




Posted By: theetimurban
Date Posted: April 29, 2008 at 9:44 PM

haemphyst wrote:

Acoustically, ZERO difference.

Don't you mean audibly?



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Posted By: aznboi3644
Date Posted: April 30, 2008 at 12:15 AM
audibly and acoustically I think is different.

Like clipping...it isn't audible until around 10% I think.

Acoustically just pertains to the actual sound.

Audibly is where "you" can hear it.

Correct?




Posted By: theetimurban
Date Posted: April 30, 2008 at 12:27 AM
That was what I was saying.. While it sounds the same (audible), were it miced/metered there would be differences between the two (acoustic). Right?

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Posted By: i am an idiot
Date Posted: April 30, 2008 at 6:02 AM
bumflik wrote:

Is there a audible difference between wiring a subwoofer 1 ohm or 2 ohm?

What kind of a woofer do you have that is capable of these 2 impedances? A dual 2 Ohm that will be paralleled to achieve 1 Ohm. And for the 2 Ohm load you would have to use only one coil of the woofer.

The 2 choices for a 2 ohm dual voice coil woofer would be 1 ohm or 4 ohms.
If you are asking about the difference of wiring an amp 1 ohm vs. 2 ohms, as stated above the amp will theoretically double it's power which would give you a 3 Db increase. This is what it takes for the human ear to notice a difference. But in order to go from 2 ohms to 1 ohm you would need different speakers. Then the efficiency of all speakers in the equation will come into play. So we really can't answer your question. If the question would be about 1 ohm vs. 4 ohms then it would be easier to answer. If the amp is 1 ohm stable then yes there would be an audible difference. A very noticeable one. The 1 ohm vs. 2 ohm, too many things would have to change to accomplish the load change. different speakers or using one coil of a dual voice coil speaker which will change the efficiency of said speaker.




Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: April 30, 2008 at 9:55 AM
theetimurban wrote:

haemphyst wrote:

Acoustically, ZERO difference.

Don't you mean audibly?

Huh... never thought about it like that... From the science side - as in the study of sound and theories applied, "acoustically" is correct, I think. From the environment side - as in what you hear, "audibly" is correct.

I'll have to look further into this. posted_image

Maybe what I meant to say was this:
Acoustically, 3dB difference. Audibly, less than that.

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It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."




Posted By: bumflik
Date Posted: April 30, 2008 at 3:41 PM
i am an idiot wrote:

bumflik wrote:

Is there a audible difference between wiring a subwoofer 1 ohm or 2 ohm?

What kind of a woofer do you have that is capable of these 2 impedances? A dual 2 Ohm that will be paralleled to achieve 1 Ohm. And for the 2 Ohm load you would have to use only one coil of the woofer.

The 2 choices for a 2 ohm dual voice coil woofer would be 1 ohm or 4 ohms.
If you are asking about the difference of wiring an amp 1 ohm vs. 2 ohms, as stated above the amp will theoretically double it's power which would give you a 3 Db increase. This is what it takes for the human ear to notice a difference. But in order to go from 2 ohms to 1 ohm you would need different speakers. Then the efficiency of all speakers in the equation will come into play. So we really can't answer your question. If the question would be about 1 ohm vs. 4 ohms then it would be easier to answer. If the amp is 1 ohm stable then yes there would be an audible difference. A very noticeable one. The 1 ohm vs. 2 ohm, too many things would have to change to accomplish the load change. different speakers or using one coil of a dual voice coil speaker which will change the efficiency of said speaker.


o yeah, what I would have meant was 1 ohms vs 2 ohms





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