system setup
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Topic: system setup
Posted By: blak422
Subject: system setup
Date Posted: September 14, 2008 at 5:50 PM
So I wanna get new stuff for my 06 Chevy Trailblazer Im lookin to put 3 "12 B12D4, which are 600RMS but im unsure with which of this hifonics amps should i match them. Also how big of a capacitor would i need and fuses size. Im also getting 2 ZXi 6.5C and prolly with the ZXi 8008 amp. Can any1 gimme some advice :D
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Posted By: still_walkin
Date Posted: September 18, 2008 at 3:58 AM
yeah i would go on the 3 subs the bxi 1608 because its under thew subs total peak so you wont blow thema nd the bxi2008d is 100 over but didnt have a fuse rating. fuse wise the 1608d take 2 70a fuses and the zxi8008 takes 2 50a so thats a total of 240 which is 240 amps total fuse ratiing and thats under a 4 guage wiring amp kit. caps do need it do the big three upgrade caps are a waste of time. also get a bigger battery than stock because i dont know your cchevys alternator amerage but a 240 a drain is gonna make you blink and your are gonna eventulaly kill you alt. and battery so do those first before you put in a system the alt. you might be able to get away with no changing it idk. but do the big 3 alt post to chasis, alt pos to battey with fuse within 18" of battery and battery ground to chasis.. other than that knock some bolts loose:)
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1993 sdv
Alpine 4x6 6x9 5 1/4 swr-10d4
alpine v60
12.5 VGA flip down
Nettop pc w/10" touch screen
78nova
5-re audio 5x7 ,10" sub &
Xtx-500.5
"Take the faceplate off get the jumperpack"
Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: September 18, 2008 at 9:14 AM
still_walkin wrote:
yeah i would go on the 3 subs the bxi 1608 because its under thew subs total peak so you wont blow thema nd the bxi2008d is 100 over but didnt have a fuse rating. fuse wise the 1608d take 2 70a fuses and the zxi8008 takes 2 50a so thats a total of 240 which is 240 amps total fuse ratiing and thats under a 4 guage wiring amp kit. caps do need it do the big three upgrade caps are a waste of time. also get a bigger battery than stock because i dont know your cchevys alternator amerage but a 240 a drain is gonna make you blink and your are gonna eventulaly kill you alt. and battery so do those first before you put in a system the alt. you might be able to get away with no changing it idk. but do the big 3 alt post to chasis, alt pos to battey with fuse within 18" of battery and battery ground to chasis.. other than that knock some bolts loose:)
Wha...? ------------- It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."
Posted By: laughnowqqlater
Date Posted: September 18, 2008 at 9:56 AM
haemphyst wrote:
still_walkin wrote:
yeah i would go on the 3 subs the bxi 1608 because its under thew subs total peak so you wont blow thema nd the bxi2008d is 100 over but didnt have a fuse rating. fuse wise the 1608d take 2 70a fuses and the zxi8008 takes 2 50a so thats a total of 240 which is 240 amps total fuse ratiing and thats under a 4 guage wiring amp kit. caps do need it do the big three upgrade caps are a waste of time. also get a bigger battery than stock because i dont know your cchevys alternator amerage but a 240 a drain is gonna make you blink and your are gonna eventulaly kill you alt. and battery so do those first before you put in a system the alt. you might be able to get away with no changing it idk. but do the big 3 alt post to chasis, alt pos to battey with fuse within 18" of battery and battery ground to chasis.. other than that knock some bolts loose:)
Wha...?
rofl
Posted By: still_walkin
Date Posted: September 18, 2008 at 11:19 AM
To some it up I told him drop the cap do the big 3 get a bigger battery maybe an bigger alt and the amp go with the bxi08d it take 2 70a fuses and the zxi8008 takes 2 50a fuse.s so the total is 240 amps fuse rating and thats under a 4 guage wiring amp kit.
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1993 sdv
Alpine 4x6 6x9 5 1/4 swr-10d4
alpine v60
12.5 VGA flip down
Nettop pc w/10" touch screen
78nova
5-re audio 5x7 ,10" sub &
Xtx-500.5
"Take the faceplate off get the jumperpack"
Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: September 18, 2008 at 11:48 AM
Ummm... #4 is only safe to 150A. You're gonna burn somebody's car to the ground someday.
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It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."
Posted By: still_walkin
Date Posted: September 18, 2008 at 4:00 PM
haemphyst wrote:
Ummm... #4 is only safe to 150A. You're gonna burn somebody's car to the ground someday.
How is that last time I checked you are supposed to add the the fuses up and the combine number is your main fuse right. Unless you woke up and decided to say what you want ------------- 1993 sdv
Alpine 4x6 6x9 5 1/4 swr-10d4
alpine v60
12.5 VGA flip down
Nettop pc w/10" touch screen
78nova
5-re audio 5x7 ,10" sub &
Xtx-500.5
"Take the faceplate off get the jumperpack"
Posted By: forbidden
Date Posted: September 18, 2008 at 4:09 PM
He did not just wake up and say what he wanted. He is correct and unless you want to burn a car to the ground, it is time to open your mind and learn.
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Top Secret, I can tell you but then my wife will kill me.
Posted By: still_walkin
Date Posted: September 18, 2008 at 4:30 PM
Ok well then. The amp I suggested had (2) 70a fuses and the other one had (2) 50a fuses and the total amperage is 240amps on the combined amps. So I lookd at the post I wrote late that morn and I was wrong but we are all human we all make mistakes but I looked at the 4 guage amp kits and the kits sell with a 150a fuse/ holder. And I haven't nor got close to setting my or someones car on fire . The purpose of this forum is to help each other and not get screwed over by going to the shop. If someone is wrong correct them and keep your negitive comments to yourself. So lets all work to help this guy get his intall done;)
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1993 sdv
Alpine 4x6 6x9 5 1/4 swr-10d4
alpine v60
12.5 VGA flip down
Nettop pc w/10" touch screen
78nova
5-re audio 5x7 ,10" sub &
Xtx-500.5
"Take the faceplate off get the jumperpack"
Posted By: blak422
Date Posted: September 19, 2008 at 5:30 PM
k still waking, thanks a lot. So u think 1 amp would do the trick? Cuz i thought i needed 1 amp per speaker.
Posted By: aznboi3644
Date Posted: September 19, 2008 at 9:32 PM
fuse ratings don't matter...its the actual load on the amplifier and how the gain is set.
Hell I could use a 3000 watt rms amp with 8 gauge if I wanted and be perfectly safe.
Posted By: blak422
Date Posted: September 22, 2008 at 8:01 AM
But how many amps? Can one amp handle those 3 speakers?
Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: September 22, 2008 at 12:05 PM
still_walkin wrote:
The purpose of this forum is to help each other and not get screwed over by going to the shop. If someone is wrong correct them and keep your negitive comments to yourself. So lets all work to help this guy get his intall done;)
That is NOT the purpose of this forum. This forum is for installers, enthusiasts and the general public to post "questions, comments, and/or answers here about any mobile electronics topic they wish." It is intended as a place where people can share information, and to promote doing things the right way. Many times "the right way" means going to a shop. Many of our members own or work in shops, and I suspect none of them would appreciate being thought of as a place where people get "screwed over." I think maybe if anyone needs an attitude adjustment, it might be you. ------------- Support the12volt.com
Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: September 22, 2008 at 12:07 PM
blak422 wrote:
But how many amps? Can one amp handle those 3 speakers?
One amp can "handle" 3000 speakers if that's what you want to do. It all depends on the impedance you create through wiring the speakers together. ------------- Support the12volt.com
Posted By: still_walkin
Date Posted: September 22, 2008 at 12:16 PM
DYohn] wrote:
still_walkin wrote:
The purpose of this forum is to help each other and not get screwed over by going to the shop. If someone is wrong correct them and keep your negitive comments to yourself. So lets all work to help this guy get his intall done;)
That is NOT the purpose of this forum. This forum is for installers, enthusiasts and the general public to post "questions, comments, and/or answers here about any mobile electronics topic they wish." It is intended as a place where people can share information, and to promote doing things the right way. Many times "the right way" means going to a shop. Many of our members own or work in shops, and I suspect none of them would appreciate being thought of as a place where people get "screwed over." I think maybe if anyone needs an attitude adjustment, it might be you.
someone is way off topic calm down I'm sorry to distrub you small little world you have. It seems yu have nothing better to do then insult me when I'm trying to help others so have at it I'm going to be the bigger younger man and let it go. ------------- 1993 sdv
Alpine 4x6 6x9 5 1/4 swr-10d4
alpine v60
12.5 VGA flip down
Nettop pc w/10" touch screen
78nova
5-re audio 5x7 ,10" sub &
Xtx-500.5
"Take the faceplate off get the jumperpack"
Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: September 22, 2008 at 12:49 PM
You obviously missed the point still_walkin. Please do not come onto this INSTALLER's forum and talk about how much installers and shops screw people over. And please do not take it personally when you post incorrect information and people call you on it. Many of us who frequent this forum are pros, and we try to keep the level of information here high. When you or anyone posts something that is simply wrong, we are going to call you on it. I suggest if you can't handle that to do your homework and research the information you try to post before you simply post it. ------------- Support the12volt.com
Posted By: blak422
Date Posted: September 22, 2008 at 5:41 PM
DYohn] wrote:
p>blak422 wrote:
But how many amps? Can one amp handle those 3 speakers?
One amp can "handle" 3000 speakers if that's what you want to do. It all depends on the impedance you create through wiring the speakers together.
well u rlly did not answer my question tho. That amp is rated 1x1600 @ 1ohm, the B12D4 are 600wtts RMS 1400 Maxx, I want to get the most output of those speaker and amp. I personally would try to wire to get the 1ohm outta the amp but my question is: with one amp can i get the most outta those subs or do am i gonna need more than one?
Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: September 22, 2008 at 6:09 PM
With three DVC 4-ohm subs, your wiring options are found here. Your best option is 2.67 ohms. So no, you cannot "get the most" out of your amplifier with three of those speakers. If you use two of your speakers, you could wire for 1-ohm. Use the wiring wizard and see. Now as far as the ratings on your gear, Hifonics is rated *very* generously, meaning it is questionable if those speakers will really handle 600 watts, and depending on your amplifier it is questionable how much power it will put out. What is the amp? ------------- Support the12volt.com
Posted By: blak422
Date Posted: September 22, 2008 at 6:26 PM
I was looking at the BXi 1608D. So would I b better off with 4 speakers?
Posted By: forbidden
Date Posted: September 22, 2008 at 7:22 PM
You would be better off with better quality gear but if Hifonics is what you think you need, so be it. You are going to be better of with two subs in this case. More subs does not necessarily mean more bass. This is just a wiz poor match of equipment I hate to say. Wire the subs in a parallel circuit to 1 ohm and keep the gain turned down or the next post we will see from you is "I blew my subs, why?".
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Top Secret, I can tell you but then my wife will kill me.
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