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pioneer ts-sw301 shallow mount subs?

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Forum Name: Car Audio
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Topic: pioneer ts-sw301 shallow mount subs?

Posted By: armyboy521
Subject: pioneer ts-sw301 shallow mount subs?
Date Posted: November 17, 2008 at 7:41 AM

Hey guys I have been installing and building boxes for my own car for a while now but have decided to start doing it right now lol I just have a couple basic questions I am going to be getting 2 Pioneer TS-SW301 they are the shallow mount design I am gonna be running them at a 2 - ohm load (thank you 12 volt for that) they can handle 1000watts peak and 250w rms do you think a 1000w mono amp will be enough to push these and has anyone ever heard these shallow mounts pound before do they sound good?

would greatly appreciate some input and thanks for everything i have learned so far



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Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: November 17, 2008 at 8:55 AM
No. A 1000 watt amp is twice what you should be seeking for those woofers. Unless you ABSOLUTLEY know what you are doing, you run the very real risk of blowing them, especially in a vented enclosure.

And, no. Those woofers sound like crap, IMO. The JL shallow-mounts, however... Still not a GREAT sounding woofer, but certainly better sounding than the Pioneers.

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Posted By: armyboy521
Date Posted: November 17, 2008 at 10:51 AM
Thanks for the input now that i think about your right that is to much power but they would be going in a sealed enclosure and i am mainly looking for spl not sq they are going in my standard cab ranger so i don't really have that much room




Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: November 17, 2008 at 3:55 PM
Even in a sealed enclosure, that would be too much power. You know this already, I'm just sayin'.

If you want SPL, look elsewhere. The Pioneer shallows do neither SPL or SQ well, although they do lean toward the SPL side of the equation. One good SPL woofer, on 1kW would offer FAR better SPL. What's your budget and dimensions (depth, most specifically...)?

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Posted By: i am an idiot
Date Posted: November 17, 2008 at 5:26 PM
If you absolutely have no room for any other woofers, then you have to use them.  If you can fit anything else in the vehicle, you really need to steer clear of those speakers. 




Posted By: KarTuneMan
Date Posted: November 17, 2008 at 9:59 PM

Them woofs are a solution to a problem, thats all. The problem being no space.

If thats all you got room for.... use em. If you got more space, DON'T use em.

These things don't do SPL, nor do they give you SQ.

What kind of vehicle?



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Posted By: armyboy521
Date Posted: November 17, 2008 at 10:00 PM
haemphyst wrote:

Even in a sealed enclosure, that would be too much power. You know this already, I'm just sayin'.

If you want SPL, look elsewhere. The Pioneer shallows do neither SPL or SQ well, although they do lean toward the SPL side of the equation. One good SPL woofer, on 1kW would offer FAR better SPL. What's your budget and dimensions (depth, most specifically...)?


i am looking at making an angled box that was why the shallow mounts would have worked so well at the most i could go 6in wide at the bottom and 4in wide at the top i had built a box for 1 10 down firing behind the passenger seat but that ate up way much room and when anybody sat in my truck they were scrunched in there I stand at 5 ft 8 and i don't want to feel like a sardine

appreciate all the help guys




Posted By: armyboy521
Date Posted: November 17, 2008 at 10:01 PM
KarTuneMan wrote:

Them woofs are a solution to a problem, thats all. The problem being no space.

If thats all you got room for.... use em. If you got more space, DON'T use em.

These things don't do SPL, nor do they give you SQ.

What kind of vehicle?




it's a 94 standard cab ranger 5 speed




Posted By: i am an idiot
Date Posted: November 18, 2008 at 3:36 AM
Do you have a bed cover?




Posted By: armyboy521
Date Posted: November 18, 2008 at 4:44 AM
/\ no i don't have a bed cover




Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: November 18, 2008 at 10:48 AM

Do you ever carry passengers?  Can you buy a different car? posted_image

Seriously, there is not much room in one of those trucks.  Putting a subwoofer in is almost a waste of time and money for what you can make fit.  You might be better off spending the money on the best performing set of main components you can lay your hands on.  Just my 1.5 cents.



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Posted By: tcss
Date Posted: November 18, 2008 at 12:35 PM

The best bass for your truck would be a single JL 13.5" T5 with a 500 watt RMS amp. If the 13.5" is too big wait for the 12" which will be available in the spring. Here:https://mobile.jlaudio.com/products_subs.php?series_id=30



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Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: November 18, 2008 at 8:30 PM
Like I said... The JL.

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It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."




Posted By: i am an idiot
Date Posted: November 18, 2008 at 9:15 PM
If you had a bed cover, all you would have to buy would be an Accordian type camper boot.  You could rent a nibbler and cut the back wall out and put 2 real 13.5s with the majority of the box in the bed of the truck.




Posted By: armyboy521
Date Posted: November 18, 2008 at 11:52 PM
Hey guys thanks for all your inputs a buddy of mine let me install two of the sony ten inch shallow mounts off the shelf at his shop to see how they sound he just ordered them and they sound amazing i hit a 112 at the kicker not to bad eh





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