lanzar, legacy, pyramid, etc
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Topic: lanzar, legacy, pyramid, etc
Posted By: thejetmolina
Subject: lanzar, legacy, pyramid, etc
Date Posted: January 02, 2009 at 11:10 PM
there was alot of bad mouthing sound around products. I just wanted to say that i have had a 4000 watt legacy predator 2 ch amp for a bout 2 years powering 2 1200 watt sony xplod 12" subs. i have the subs hooked up in series on one channel and when i turn up the volume i feel the bass through my chest and cannot hear the person sitting next to me i have been heard blocks away before i came home and that is on one channel. so with my personal experience this amp is strong very durable since my sub box has fallin over quite a few times before it was mounted to a new floor board and is still hittin hard 2 years later. so before people talk bad about a product they should try it out first.
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Posted By: aznboi3644
Date Posted: January 03, 2009 at 12:51 AM
don't matter...all of those products are still crap.
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Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: January 03, 2009 at 10:41 AM
Two blocks away? Wow... What kind of distortion were you "pumping out"? Guaranteed 10% or better. Those products ARE crap, and I can bad-mouth them, as I HAVE had experience with them.
Why are you only using one channel? Oh, wait... the OTHER channel is BLOWN, right?
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It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."
Posted By: thejetmolina
Date Posted: January 03, 2009 at 1:06 PM
i already had 2 1200 watt subs in my trunk and i didnt need it to get any louder that it already is so the other is not blown. people on a budget can still get the big sounds too just cause i cant afford jbl and kicker doesnt mean that all other products are crap. and as far as distortion goes it sounded good from where i was sittin cause it is tuned right. i have a good box and someone that knows wut they are doing did my setup. and i have a jeep so there is no annoying trunk rattle
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Posted By: audiocableguy
Date Posted: January 03, 2009 at 1:25 PM
The 20+ year Pro's around here have encountered these products and have formed the opinion, The stuff flat out sucks! The claims made by these companies are so full of BS it's hard to keep from laughing. Buy any of the above flea market brands and compare those to a quality equivalent and it very clear why people bad mouth them. I've had boxes of the said failed products I would donate to the local tech school. They weren't worth the effort to even get a repair estimate. I did keep a couple to chock my boat trailer!
That 4000 W Legacy is maybe, and I mean maybe, 800 watts. The first clue is the $300 for 4000W?? Take a look at the numbers on say an Arc 4000se compared to your Legacy. Physical size, required amperage and most importantly the numbers. Electronic performance is based on math and physics not the BS marketing numbers on the outside of the box. As Haemphst stated, 10% distortion, a true quality piece of gear should be below 1%.
The Lanzar model LA-2268 is rated at 2 x 2000W the recommended max fuse is 60 Amps. Mmmmm.
Do I bad mouth the above products, Yes I do. Along with: Pyle, Audiobahn, Sony, Power Acoustics, MA, Boss and the list goes on. I will also give credit when credit is due. In the last 80's Lanzar amps were made by ZED audio. They were great amps. They were sold off and went to hell and have been garbage ever since.
If your stuff bumps, grinds, flaps, farts whatever. If that's what you want, Great.
I do understand being on a budget. There are still brands available that offer good performance. You just need to know what to look for.
Posted By: i am an idiot
Date Posted: January 03, 2009 at 2:48 PM
Wow one of our members went as far as to call a product Crap. That is a first.
Posted By: CutDog504
Date Posted: January 03, 2009 at 6:37 PM
Don't forget about coustic, rockwood, and cadence, lmao.
Posted By: i am an idiot
Date Posted: January 03, 2009 at 10:17 PM
Do you know how they came up with the RockWood name?
Posted By: CutDog504
Date Posted: January 03, 2009 at 10:42 PM
I'm not even gonna go there
Posted By: soundnsecurity
Date Posted: January 03, 2009 at 10:55 PM
legacy amp + sony Xplode subs = get your system metered at a competition and then post something other than an opinion. somebody heard your setup a block away? well i can barely hear my setup 10 feet from my truck BUT i win competitions with the sound inside my truck. hmmmm... what does that tell you about the relationship between how something sounds inside a car and outside a car. IT MEANS NOTHING. i once SAW with my own eyes, at a competition, someone who posted a 150-something(not sure exactly) db or so with a 10 inch sub, but you couldn't hear ANYTHING outside of his truck, all i saw was and the display from the Term-Lab going higher and higher.
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Posted By: i am an idiot
Date Posted: January 03, 2009 at 11:07 PM
I had no idea where they came up with that name until I saw my first KenFord radio. It seems they both got their name from KenWood and RockFord.
Posted By: ckeeler
Date Posted: January 04, 2009 at 11:18 AM
"KenFord"? what the!!?? haha. i still havnt seen one of those yet.
Posted By: i am an idiot
Date Posted: January 04, 2009 at 11:45 AM
The unit I saw about 10 years ago was a radio, I just stumbled across an amp, https://www.ghettoinstalls.com/ click on ghetto products fourth picture down.
Posted By: i am an idiot
Date Posted: January 04, 2009 at 12:02 PM
They really have some good ideas on that website, take this one for instance, I have been having trouble getting my front stage to a desireable height. Before I found this picture there, I had no idea what I was to do. Now it is clear to me what I need to do. 
Posted By: ckeeler
Date Posted: January 04, 2009 at 12:31 PM
yes, yes! pure genius i must say! ill try it too, and post pics to boot!
Posted By: thejetmolina
Date Posted: January 04, 2009 at 6:54 PM
your right a 10 inch sub can win competition doors closed windows closed im sure every panel had a material like dynamat in it so there will be nothing heard outside the car al the sound stayed in the car and that is how it is measured. i drive with my windows down, i dont have any dampning so whether its the highs or the lows its loud and hits hard except for the dampning within my sub boxes which makes it hit harder and clearer but you guys should aready know that. im just sayin its not fair to call budget products crap just because you are comparing them to high end audio. im not arguing with you i agree you cannot compare legacy to mtx or to some other manufacturers but to call a company like sony crap. even though a company like giovanna only had sony sound products in their 07 navigator so sony must be doin something right. ------------- Beep Beep who got the keys to the Jeep
Posted By: i am an idiot
Date Posted: January 04, 2009 at 7:09 PM
The comment about the products being crap needs to be taken with a grain of salt. He says everything is crap. Don't get all worked up about it.
Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: January 04, 2009 at 9:02 PM
i am an idiot wrote:
The comment about the products being crap needs to be taken with a grain of salt. He says everything is crap. Don't get all worked up about it.
Who...? Me...?  If so, I didn't say it first! LOL
aznboi3644 wrote:
don't matter...all of those products are still crap.
haemphyst wrote:
Two blocks away? Wow... What kind of distortion were you "pumping out"? Guaranteed 10% or better. Those products ARE crap, and I can bad-mouth them, as I HAVE had experience with them.
Why are you only using one channel? Oh, wait... the OTHER channel is BLOWN, right?
------------- It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."
Posted By: i am an idiot
Date Posted: January 04, 2009 at 9:08 PM
I didn't even notice that YOU said they were crap. Sorry about the confusion. You were not the one.
Posted By: aznboi3644
Date Posted: January 05, 2009 at 12:55 AM
yeah...i still stand by my statement. Saying those products are quality equipment would be like saying Grizzly Adams had a beard.
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Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: January 05, 2009 at 2:21 AM
aznboi3644 wrote:
yeah...i still stand by my statement. Saying those products are quality equipment would be like saying Grizzly Adams had a beard.
Grizzly Adams DID have a beard...
Maybe what you MEANT to say was this: "Saying those products are quality equipment would be like saying The Fonz had a beard."
 ------------- It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."
Posted By: the12volt
Date Posted: January 05, 2009 at 7:38 PM
...oO(the Potsie reference can't be too far behind... ;) ) -------------  the12volt • Support the12volt.com
Posted By: aznboi3644
Date Posted: January 06, 2009 at 1:59 PM
lol I know...its a funny quote from "Happy Gilmore"
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