kicker cvr’s or cvx

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Topic: kicker cvr’s or cvx

Posted By: thegreat22
Subject: kicker cvr’s or cvx
Date Posted: February 26, 2009 at 8:44 AM

I currently have 2 15 4ohm kicker cvr wired down to 1 ohm and Im thinking about getting gettin another or should I jus wait and untill i can buy 2 15 cvx

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Posted By: aznboi3644
Date Posted: February 26, 2009 at 4:03 PM

what enclosure are they in??

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Posted By: thegreat22
Date Posted: February 26, 2009 at 4:43 PM

Rite now sealed but soon to be ported

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(The Great)

Posted By: j.reed
Date Posted: February 26, 2009 at 6:09 PM

The problem you face is with powering 3 woofers. What amp are you using now? With 3 DVC 4ohm subs. You either need a half ohm stable amp or something that is going to give you the power you need at 2.66 ohm. Your other option is two 1ohm stable amps. This is if you even have the room to accomodate the airspace required for all 3.

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Posted By: soundnsecurity
Date Posted: February 26, 2009 at 10:52 PM

there is not much difference between a CVR and a CVX.

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Posted By: memfus_boi
Date Posted: February 27, 2009 at 1:02 AM

the cvr should be about 400-450 rms compared to cvx which will be about 750rms. there should a BIG difference in sounds

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Posted By: j.reed
Date Posted: February 27, 2009 at 8:39 AM

memfus_boi wrote:

the cvr should be about 400-450 rms compared to cvx which will be about 750rms. there should a BIG difference in sounds

Actually you might be surprised. The sound is almost identical. The output however is where you will see the gain if you put the power to the cxv.

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Posted By: aznboi3644
Date Posted: February 27, 2009 at 9:09 AM

soundnsecurity wrote:

there is not much difference between a CVR and a CVX.

wrong

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Posted By: soundnsecurity
Date Posted: February 27, 2009 at 1:11 PM

aznboi3644 wrote:

soundnsecurity wrote:

there is not much difference between a CVR and a CVX.

wrong

other than power handling, and the color of the cone, what is the difference? im just curious.

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Posted By: thegreat22
Date Posted: February 27, 2009 at 1:18 PM

If I get cvx I will get da rite amp for them

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Posted By: aznboi3644
Date Posted: February 27, 2009 at 3:57 PM

soundnsecurity wrote:

aznboi3644 wrote:

soundnsecurity wrote:

there is not much difference between a CVR and a CVX.

wrong

other than power handling, and the color of the cone, what is the difference? im just curious.

Differences between the two is farther than the cone. If you knew how a speaker works...color doesn't matter.

Everything that makes a speaker a speaker is different between the two.

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Posted By: soundnsecurity
Date Posted: February 27, 2009 at 11:56 PM

aznboi3644 wrote:

soundnsecurity wrote:

aznboi3644 wrote:

soundnsecurity wrote:

there is not much difference between a CVR and a CVX.

wrong

other than power handling, and the color of the cone, what is the difference? im just curious.

Differences between the two is farther than the cone. If you knew how a speaker works...color doesn't matter.

Everything that makes a speaker a speaker is different between the two.

i know color of the cone doesn't matter. dont take me for the average fool, i know how a speaker works so please let me have it. i would love to know the difference between a CVR and a CVX. is the voice coil made of a different material? voice coil wound a different way? cone reinforced differently or made of something else other than IMPP? magnet a little bit heavier? maybe 4mm more xmax? a more luxurious rubber boot around the magnet? seriously? if the only answer you can give me is " I wont understand the difference even if you broke it down in barney terms" than that's not really good enough to qualify as an answer.
if you know your stuff about speaker design like you claim, and im not saying you dont, (everybody knows about different things)you should be able to give me a straight answer.

and once again, im not trying to call you out to a wild west show down on this issue, i'm really curious to know what is the big difference between a CVR and CVX that would justify such a huge price difference.

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Posted By: soundnsecurity
Date Posted: February 28, 2009 at 12:23 AM

and the CVX is about 2.5 DB more sensitive and supposedly handles 2x more power RMS, but ill believe this when i see it. the CVX is a round L7 and the CVR is a round L5, either way, both subs are garbage.

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Posted By: soundnsecurity
Date Posted: February 28, 2009 at 10:14 AM

i looked up the specs and compared what i could because they wont give any real specs for the CVX. i looked up the 15 model of both and what i found was the CVR's resonant frequency is 0.7Hz lower. the xmax for the CVR is 12.5mm they didn't post the CVX's xmax (big surprise there). the CVX has twice the rms power handling in a small enclosure (2ft^3) but if you put it in the recommended SQ enclosure (5.2ft^3) the power handling drops to 500 max, im sure this is due to mechanical stress and not thermal tolerance. this is everything i could compare from the pdf owners manual of both subs, but it seems to me that they are purposely hiding all specs that mean anything for the CVX and i wonder why.

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Posted By: j.reed
Date Posted: February 28, 2009 at 4:20 PM

soundnsecurity wrote:

i looked up the specs and compared what i could because they wont give any real specs for the CVX. i looked up the 15 model of both and what i found was the CVR's resonant frequency is 0.7Hz lower. the xmax for the CVR is 12.5mm they didn't post the CVX's xmax (big surprise there). the CVX has twice the rms power handling in a small enclosure (2ft^3) but if you put it in the recommended SQ enclosure (5.2ft^3) the power handling drops to 500 max, im sure this is due to mechanical stress and not thermal tolerance. this is everything i could compare from the pdf owners manual of both subs, but it seems to me that they are purposely hiding all specs that mean anything for the CVX and i wonder why.

Probably because they are almost the identical woofer. Just like the L5 and L7 posted_image

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Posted By: soundnsecurity
Date Posted: February 28, 2009 at 9:39 PM

j.reed wrote:

soundnsecurity wrote:

i looked up the specs and compared what i could because they wont give any real specs for the CVX. i looked up the 15 model of both and what i found was the CVR's resonant frequency is 0.7Hz lower. the xmax for the CVR is 12.5mm they didn't post the CVX's xmax (big surprise there). the CVX has twice the rms power handling in a small enclosure (2ft^3) but if you put it in the recommended SQ enclosure (5.2ft^3) the power handling drops to 500 max, im sure this is due to mechanical stress and not thermal tolerance. this is everything i could compare from the pdf owners manual of both subs, but it seems to me that they are purposely hiding all specs that mean anything for the CVX and i wonder why.

Probably because they are almost the identical woofer. Just like the L5 and L7

THANK YOU!!!!!!!! at least somebody gets it

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Posted By: 6thaveme
Date Posted: March 02, 2009 at 7:29 PM

Definatly go with the 3 cvrs.you will get way more pressure from three cvr 15s compared to 2 cvx 15s..the subs are almost identical sound security is more than right.

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Posted By: aznboi3644
Date Posted: March 03, 2009 at 1:47 AM

difference between the CVR and CVX.

different coil, different spider(s), different motor, different goal...EVERY ASPECT that goes into a speaker is different.

The difference between a CVR and a CVX is the same difference that is between a CVR and any other subwoofer on the market.

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Posted By: soundnsecurity
Date Posted: March 03, 2009 at 9:10 AM

aznboi3644 wrote:

difference between the CVR and CVX.

different coil, different spider(s), different motor, different goal...EVERY ASPECT that goes into a speaker is different.

The difference between a CVR and a CVX is the same difference that is between a CVR and any other subwoofer on the market.

do you have any reading material on this so that i can be better equipped to drop awesome knowledge like that into someones else's mind the next time this comes up? posted_image

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