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whats the best sub/subs for my set up?

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Topic: whats the best sub/subs for my set up?

Posted By: jon31608
Subject: whats the best sub/subs for my set up?
Date Posted: March 15, 2009 at 2:04 AM

ok i have a 95 toyota corolla here is a list of things i have in the car

-jvc indash 3.1" screen 5 volt output

-clarion EQS746 7 volt rms output

-20ft 0/1 guage power/ ground

-infinity reference 6 1/2" door speakers

-eclipse xa 4000 4 channel amp

-rockford fosgate power t1000 bd

- 15" kicker l7 dual 4 ohm
ok what i want to know is wht would be the best woofer i can get to have my system up to its pull potential right now its only at 1/3 of its fullpower and im flexing building windows i want a sub i can put all the power of my system  and it be ok i just want it to handle all my power and then some you know and isnt super expensive thanks-jon



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95 toyota corolla
jvc indash 3.1" output 5v
Clarion EQS746 exualizer
4 infinity reference 6.5"
0/1 guage threw car
rockford fosgate power t1000d
Eclipse XA4000 4 channel
kicker l7 15"



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Posted By: dangerous10k
Date Posted: March 15, 2009 at 11:30 AM
Fi BL or BTL




Posted By: jon31608
Date Posted: March 15, 2009 at 1:43 PM
really where can i find one of those? and about how much do the btls run? should i get a siingle 12" or go with a 15"

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95 toyota corolla
jvc indash 3.1" output 5v
Clarion EQS746 exualizer
4 infinity reference 6.5"
0/1 guage threw car
rockford fosgate power t1000d
Eclipse XA4000 4 channel
kicker l7 15"




Posted By: jon31608
Date Posted: March 15, 2009 at 2:27 PM
i think im gonna go with the fi bl 15 dual 2 ohm fully loaded about how do you think that would sound in my little car? im gonna build a bo tuned to 35hrz maybe even a bit lower down to like 32 or so but somewere in there and im gonna make 45 degree angles on all the 90 degree spots inside the box and im gonna make it around 4ft3 with everything again how do you think it would sound? thanks-jon

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95 toyota corolla
jvc indash 3.1" output 5v
Clarion EQS746 exualizer
4 infinity reference 6.5"
0/1 guage threw car
rockford fosgate power t1000d
Eclipse XA4000 4 channel
kicker l7 15"




Posted By: j.reed
Date Posted: March 15, 2009 at 2:48 PM
with only a fosgate t1000 there is no reason to get it fully loaded.

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Posted By: jon31608
Date Posted: March 15, 2009 at 3:13 PM

well im gonna be putting about 1600 watts to it and with the 7 volt rms out put from my equalizer and the 5 coming from my deck it will be putting more power down with those wont they? and you know i would rather get the fully loaded just incase ide rather be safe then sorry because its only like 80$ more for the fully loaded so how do you think it would sound in my car with those exact box dimensions?



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95 toyota corolla
jvc indash 3.1" output 5v
Clarion EQS746 exualizer
4 infinity reference 6.5"
0/1 guage threw car
rockford fosgate power t1000d
Eclipse XA4000 4 channel
kicker l7 15"




Posted By: forbidden
Date Posted: March 15, 2009 at 3:21 PM

How do you know for sure the power you have? Was their a certificate with the amp that shows hom much power the amp makes at a specific impedence? Next, the output voltage of your deck is never combined with the output of the eq, it is only the last signal that is used and it has nothing to do with your amp making more power. Want loud, stupid loud, www.ddaudio.com and look at the DD3515 and buy the one that is matched to the amp to take the amp to it's maximum output. They also have a very good box recommendation on the site as well.



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Posted By: jon31608
Date Posted: March 15, 2009 at 3:28 PM
well ive heard that dd audio is good but ive also heard from a butt load of people that they wernt any good for like everyday use only in competitions and yes my amp did come with a birth sheet and it puts out a true 1592 watts at one ohm and puts out 983 watts at 2ohm and 769 at 4 ohm ok so i will be running my system on a 7 volt rms setup? ive also found 2 dd 3500 10" d2 woofers for 200$ brand new in dallas, tx but again i havent hear the best things about dd

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95 toyota corolla
jvc indash 3.1" output 5v
Clarion EQS746 exualizer
4 infinity reference 6.5"
0/1 guage threw car
rockford fosgate power t1000d
Eclipse XA4000 4 channel
kicker l7 15"




Posted By: j.reed
Date Posted: March 15, 2009 at 4:09 PM
DD is very good quality. Fi is alos good. I like Fi form a money stand point. They are not that main stream yet and you buy them from the source not a 3rd party mark up. If your wanting loud just do a BTL and no need to fully load it. It handles 2000rms as it is 5000rms fully loaded way over kill for you.  

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Posted By: jon31608
Date Posted: March 15, 2009 at 4:26 PM
again how do you guys think that would sound in my car with the 4ft3 box tunded to about 35 hrz? well i was thinking the btl but wouldnt i be under powering it any? and i know that aint good to underpower your subs i was thinking of getting the fi bl not the btl but the bl fully loaded and it would cost me like 300$ exactly for that sub which isnt all that bad because it would be fully loaded and handle my amp and any amount of power i threw t it.   

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95 toyota corolla
jvc indash 3.1" output 5v
Clarion EQS746 exualizer
4 infinity reference 6.5"
0/1 guage threw car
rockford fosgate power t1000d
Eclipse XA4000 4 channel
kicker l7 15"




Posted By: j.reed
Date Posted: March 16, 2009 at 8:51 AM
Underpowering a sub by giving it less RMS than its max is in no way shape or form going to hurt your sub. This has been gone over and over again. As for sound the subs sounds great if the enclosure is built correct and with good placement. THe BTL not only will handle the power with out having to do it fully loaded but is built better and stronger.  BTW what is the difference between under powering a BL and a BTL? I will answer for you. NOTHING. As for the under power myth here is a nice link to a discusion on it. https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp~TID~74226~PN~1

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Posted By: jon31608
Date Posted: March 16, 2009 at 1:14 PM
ok so what im trying to say is i want a 15" fi bl ok its just as strong fully loaded as the btl and is 100$ cheaper and i wont be underpowering the bl but i will be underpowering the btl by a few hunderd watts but the bl i wont be underpowering it at all. so tel me please do you know what the diffrence is with the 15" bl fully loaded is than the 12" btl regular? like they have almost the same quality and exact spl sensitivity so wouoldnt they sound about the same?

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95 toyota corolla
jvc indash 3.1" output 5v
Clarion EQS746 exualizer
4 infinity reference 6.5"
0/1 guage threw car
rockford fosgate power t1000d
Eclipse XA4000 4 channel
kicker l7 15"




Posted By: soundnsecurity
Date Posted: March 16, 2009 at 1:25 PM
you get what you pay for and the spl of any given sub is NOT determined by how much power it will handle. how you sub sounds is mostly the job of the box it is in. in your case, your 1600W is fine for either of those subs just put whatever sub you get in a well designed box.

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Posted By: j.reed
Date Posted: March 16, 2009 at 1:54 PM

jon31608 wrote:

ok so what im trying to say is i want a 15" fi bl ok its just as strong fully loaded as the btl and is 100$ cheaper and i wont be underpowering the bl but i will be underpowering the btl by a few hunderd watts but the bl i wont be underpowering it at all. so tel me please do you know what the diffrence is with the 15" bl fully loaded is than the 12" btl regular? like they have almost the same quality and exact spl sensitivity so wouoldnt they sound about the same?

A fully loaded BL is still not even in the same league as the build quality of the BTL.

BL  Extra heavy lead wire
FEA optimized motor
3” diameter 4 layer coil (Flatwind option), <---on fully loaded.
Double stack magnets
Triple progressive spiders

BTL  Extreme lead wire
FEA optimized motor
3” diameter 8 layer coil and flat wind (High Xmax coil option )
Single high flux magnet
Five progressive spiders

2 totaly different beasts. you get what you pay for in the BTL

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Posted By: jon31608
Date Posted: March 16, 2009 at 6:56 PM
ok so with my amp and my power output if i build a verry verry good box i know i can i do it all the time for the btl how do you guys think it would sound?

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95 toyota corolla
jvc indash 3.1" output 5v
Clarion EQS746 exualizer
4 infinity reference 6.5"
0/1 guage threw car
rockford fosgate power t1000d
Eclipse XA4000 4 channel
kicker l7 15"




Posted By: j.reed
Date Posted: March 16, 2009 at 7:39 PM
they sound very good.

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Posted By: jon31608
Date Posted: March 16, 2009 at 11:17 PM
what do you think would do to my car? if i had the btl 15 in there? like flex my windows and doodie or brake something?

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95 toyota corolla
jvc indash 3.1" output 5v
Clarion EQS746 exualizer
4 infinity reference 6.5"
0/1 guage threw car
rockford fosgate power t1000d
Eclipse XA4000 4 channel
kicker l7 15"




Posted By: j.reed
Date Posted: March 17, 2009 at 12:45 AM

it sould be plenty loud if done right. In that little car it should rattle it to peices. check out some vids of them to get a better idea. Youtube  and realm have plenty of Fi BTL vids for you.



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