morel ultimo vs jl 12w7 vs pg rsdc
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Topic: morel ultimo vs jl 12w7 vs pg rsdc
Posted By: flogger11
Subject: morel ultimo vs jl 12w7 vs pg rsdc
Date Posted: March 18, 2009 at 2:20 PM
All right guys, I have narrowed down my sub choice to a morel ultimo 12" or a JL 12W7, either of which is going in a sealed enclosure. I am replacing my dual 10" Phoenix Gold RSDc subs, how much of a step up are these other subs and also which would you guys recommend, the JL or the Morel? I have 1000 watts RMS (ZPA 0.5), so power isnt a problem, and I listen to new and classic rock, jazz, a little rap, a touch of country, a classical piece here and there, i pretty much listen to anything that throws off a big stage! SQ above all else! Opinions?
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Posted By: aznboi3644
Date Posted: March 18, 2009 at 3:53 PM
1000 watts at what load??
Also there are MANY other Sound quality subwoofers
Exodus Audio ShivaX, Sound Solutions Audio Icon, Incriminator Audio Flatlyne, Peerless XLS subwoofers, Dayton Titanic...just to name a few.
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Posted By: flogger11
Date Posted: March 18, 2009 at 7:03 PM
1000 watts RMS at any load bridged, 4, 2 or 1.... -------------
Posted By: flogger11
Date Posted: March 18, 2009 at 7:04 PM
ALso the reason i am leaning towards JL or Morel is that is what is available from a local dealer...
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Posted By: j.reed
Date Posted: March 18, 2009 at 8:08 PM
aznboi3644 wrote:
1000 watts at what load??
Also there are MANY other Sound quality subwoofers
Exodus Audio ShivaX, Sound Solutions Audio Icon, Incriminator Audio Flatlyne, Peerless XLS subwoofers, Dayton Titanic...just to name a few.
what is the best 12 sq sub out there? In that thread did you not say that the morel ultimo was the best 12" SQ sub? ------------- 
Posted By: flogger11
Date Posted: March 18, 2009 at 8:51 PM
j.reed wrote:
aznboi3644 wrote:
1000 watts at what load??
Also there are MANY other Sound quality subwoofers
Exodus Audio ShivaX, Sound Solutions Audio Icon, Incriminator Audio Flatlyne, Peerless XLS subwoofers, Dayton Titanic...just to name a few.
what is the best 12 sq sub out there? In that thread did you not say that the morel ultimo was the best 12" SQ sub?
Why yes he did... -------------
Posted By: soundnsecurity
Date Posted: March 18, 2009 at 9:58 PM
j.reed wrote:
aznboi3644 wrote:
1000 watts at what load??
Also there are MANY other Sound quality subwoofers
Exodus Audio ShivaX, Sound Solutions Audio Icon, Incriminator Audio Flatlyne, Peerless XLS subwoofers, Dayton Titanic...just to name a few.
what is the best 12 sq sub out there? In that thread did you not say that the morel ultimo was the best 12" SQ sub?
BEST is just a point of view. -------------
Posted By: flogger11
Date Posted: March 18, 2009 at 10:17 PM
Wow, you guys are a tough crowd. I realize BEST is a point of view, I am looking for opinions to filter through and then make my own decision. I am leaning towards the Morel just because I love their Mt-23 tweeters, but really havent decided. I want my sub to play very detailed, hearing the string being touched on a bass guitar etc etc, yet I need it to be able to smack me in the face when the time comes... once again, opinions?
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Posted By: soundnsecurity
Date Posted: March 18, 2009 at 10:25 PM
if you are looking for sound like trying to hear a detailed bass guitar you should focus more on the mid-bass / mid range as those tones aren't usually in the sub bass range. it is the mid range that gives detail to the bass range this is why a bass guitar speaker is designed to play well into the mid range frequencies. dont get me wrong though, the sub has a lot to do with the quality you hear with low frequencies but it is how it blends together with the mid woofer that will determine the results you get.
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Posted By: aznboi3644
Date Posted: March 18, 2009 at 10:34 PM
I never said it was the best...I just said "Morel Ultimo".
I would love to own the Ultimo. So sexy. 5.1" voice coil. Sweet ass looking basket.
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Posted By: flogger11
Date Posted: March 18, 2009 at 10:36 PM
Sigh. Still no opinions guys? By the way, check ebay I have some great Zapco stuff for sale, kawasakiguy68....
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Posted By: j.reed
Date Posted: March 19, 2009 at 2:39 PM
aznboi3644 wrote:
I never said it was the best...I just said "Morel Ultimo".
I would love to own the Ultimo. So sexy. 5.1" voice coil. Sweet ass looking basket.
I can understand that. Just thought it was funny that on that question you said one sub. Now you mention a few brands and did't put a rhym or reason to your selections. When he is asking which one he should go between 2 different subs. The JL and the Moral he is trying to decide between. -------------
Posted By: aznboi3644
Date Posted: March 19, 2009 at 3:19 PM
Either are good choices...its just up to personal choices now.
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Posted By: flogger11
Date Posted: March 19, 2009 at 4:56 PM
I tried a JL 12w7 in the JL ported box, and all I can say is HOLY CRAP!!!! This sub humps and sounds great! I am leaning towards the JL, but I am going to go with the sealed enclosure from JL, has anybody any tried the Jl 12w7 in the sealed box? I know it wont be as loud but should be a little more accurate. opinions?
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