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2nd tweeter crossover

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Topic: 2nd tweeter crossover

Posted By: bdupreez
Subject: 2nd tweeter crossover
Date Posted: April 06, 2009 at 6:25 PM

My vehicle is equipped with a Boss stereo. I find that it's missing a lot of highs so I wanted to add a tweeter.

The stereo comes equipped with a 8" woofer and a 2" tweeter. The boss tweeter is crossed over at 1800hz - pretty damn low for a tweeter - its most like a midrange/tweeter hybrid; which is probably why I don't here any nice highs.

The boss tweeter is 4ohm and using a 22ufd capacitor to achieve it's 1800 high pass crossover.

The tweeter I am installing is a 4ohm tweeter, rated to 3000hz. I will be tapping the pos/neg wires before they run into the factor tweeter/capacitor to send to the new tweeter. I will be looking for a highpass crossover point of about 4000hz for the new tweeter.

Question: When I use the capacitor calculator on this site to figure out which size capacitor to add to the new tweeter I get 10ufd, calculated @ 4ohm. But will the overall tweeter(s) impedance change because of the new tweeter? Would I have to calculate for 2ohm load instead? If so, does that mean I would also have to change the capacitor on the boss tweeter to maintain it's stock crossover point?

I hope you understand what I am trying to do here and help me with this - been searching around car audio forums for a while and can't seem to get a straight answer. Cheers!



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Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: April 06, 2009 at 6:40 PM
You plan to leave the old tweet and add the new on in parallel with it?  The calculate your high-pass filter for just the impedance of the tweeter you're adding.  Be aware that by doing this you will be placing a 2-ohm load on your amplifier above the second tweet's XO frequency.  This will probably not present a problem for the amp, but you need to be aware of this in case it does.  Also, it is never really a good idea to just add tweeters, as you can create problems with lobing and cancellations.  1800Hz is not low for a tweeter, by the way.  In fact that's fairly normal.  Some of my designs cross as low as 700Hz to the tweet (it has to be a really good tweeter to do that, by the way.)

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Posted By: bdupreez
Date Posted: April 06, 2009 at 6:47 PM
Yes I plan on leaving the original "tweeter" as its more of a midrange. It's huge and heavy; the highs are just not there.    I tested the sound by running the new tweeters, after the boss capacitor and it really makes the stereo sound much better - fills in all of the missing highs nicely.

My problem is now protecting the tweeters from receiving too much frequency.





Posted By: bdupreez
Date Posted: April 06, 2009 at 6:49 PM
Ok so when you say its 2ohm above the crossover point - does that mean the stock capacitor on the tweeter can stay at 22ufd? And I would just add a 10ufd cap before the new tweeter to get a crossover point of about 4000hz?




Posted By: bdupreez
Date Posted: April 07, 2009 at 2:59 PM
DYohn] wrote:

You plan to leave the old tweet and add the new on in parallel with it?  The calculate your high-pass filter for just the impedance of the tweeter you're adding.  Be aware that by doing this you will be placing a 2-ohm load on your amplifier above the second tweet's XO frequency.  This will probably not present a problem for the amp, but you need to be aware of this in case it does.  Also, it is never really a good idea to just add tweeters, as you can create problems with lobing and cancellations.  1800Hz is not low for a tweeter, by the way.  In fact that's fairly normal.  Some of my designs cross as low as 700Hz to the tweet (it has to be a really good tweeter to do that, by the way.)


Thanks for the help DYohn - I have it sorted now.





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