pioneer shallow ts sw1041d
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Topic: pioneer shallow ts sw1041d
Posted By: locologan
Subject: pioneer shallow ts sw1041d
Date Posted: May 13, 2009 at 5:15 PM
i just bought these subs to replace my fosgate p1 i have a 2007 silverado classic crew cab. my subs are behind my seat. i put the pioneer subs back there and they dont sound any better i have the custom speeker box for my truck my bro said it might be getting to much air. does anybody have any ideas what to do and i still have my p1's should i put thoses behind the seat and put the pioneer subs under the front seat and run another amp but i would like to just keep pioneer behind the seats. i dont know how much air space my truck box has but if anybody has any idea what i can do please share thanks
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Posted By: icearrow6
Date Posted: May 13, 2009 at 7:06 PM
Is the box a single chamber? Or is there a division between them? What amp are you using? model #.
Posted By: locologan
Date Posted: May 13, 2009 at 9:47 PM
Yes there is a devider in the middle of the box and I don't know the model number but its a pioneer mono block 800 watt plus it gets real hot after like 25 or 30min of use is that normal
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Posted By: icearrow6
Date Posted: May 13, 2009 at 11:33 PM
Is there any way you can get a picture of the set up..mainly the custom box you mentioned.
I've used these woofers up to 1 cubic feet of airspace...with great success. Do u have 4ohm or 2ohm woofers? I think the amp may be getting hot because of the impedance load, more specifically too low.
Posted By: locologan
Date Posted: May 14, 2009 at 12:08 AM
They are 4ohm subs ill try and get pics up but the box its the pre fab ones that fir in there with the t looking design to go over my air ducks in the back the amp gets hot fast and I can smell it
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Posted By: icearrow6
Date Posted: May 14, 2009 at 2:07 PM
Are u sure is a mono block amp? U sure its a 1omh stable amp?
Posted By: locologan
Date Posted: May 14, 2009 at 2:37 PM
Ya I'm pretty sure but I don't know about the ohms or the 1 ohm stable
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Posted By: icearrow6
Date Posted: May 14, 2009 at 4:11 PM
locologan wrote:
Ya I'm pretty sure but I don't know about the ohms or the 1 ohm stable
A model # would help a lot.
Posted By: locologan
Date Posted: May 14, 2009 at 4:54 PM
Ill get the model number today
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Posted By: locologan
Date Posted: May 14, 2009 at 10:15 PM
the model number is gm-7300m it says its a 2 ohm stable amp. what if i were to put 2 subs behind my seat wich would be rf p1s and 2 under my seat wich would be the pioneer what amp can i put to run all for if i can use 1 amp and by the way thanks for the help guys
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Posted By: icearrow6
Date Posted: May 15, 2009 at 2:16 PM
First. The amp is a class a/b which means its ganna get hot...if you are using it at 2 ohms (like your setup). It hasn't shut off on you has it?
Second. An amp that would run all four speakers is going to be pricey...because the speakers are single coil 4 ohm. So u must look for a MONOBLOCK 1 ohm stable amp, with about 800W RMS.
Your current amp puts out 360W, which is enough for the P1 but not the Shallow pioneers...they are about 400W RMS.
If you wanted to get an amp for all 4, You will not be able to get all the power necessary, because there is a large power handling difference between the P1's and the Pioneers.
So I suggest getting another amp to run your pioneers...about 800W RMS at 2 ohms. (1 ohm stable).
Hope this helps.
Posted By: locologan
Date Posted: May 15, 2009 at 3:00 PM
I think my speakers are 250rms so would I need a 500rms amp and what class should I get so it don't get hot
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Posted By: locologan
Date Posted: May 15, 2009 at 3:20 PM
Can you recomend some amps that won't get so hot and will work for aroun 2 to 3 hundred
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Posted By: icearrow6
Date Posted: May 15, 2009 at 9:09 PM
locologan wrote:
I think my speakers are 250rms so would I need a 500rms amp and what class should I get so it don't get hot
Thats the point..you don't want an amp to "just" make the power, U wanna have an amp with plenty of power available...so its easier for the amp to produce the 500W RMS the woofers want. Get it?
Say the new amp is capable of 1000W RMS at 1 ohm. Set up with your woofer you'll get a 2 ohm load, so think of this as being half as easy for the amp to give you 500W RMS.
Be careful though cus this does NOT mean set the amp gains to "half way" and it'll all be ok. There is a section on this site about setting your gains.... HERE
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Posted By: i am an idiot
Date Posted: May 15, 2009 at 9:18 PM
A flat woofer is a good thing if you do not have room for anything else. However they are not the most durable things out there. In my opinion, overpowering those subs is NOT a good idea at all.
Posted By: locologan
Date Posted: May 16, 2009 at 12:41 AM
Posted By: icearrow6
Date Posted: May 16, 2009 at 12:55 PM
i am an idiot wrote:
A flat woofer is a good thing if you do not have room for anything else. However they are not the most durable things out there. In my opinion, overpowering those subs is NOT a good idea at all.
.. I didn't say you wanted to over power the woofers, I meant that the amp should be MORE than able to drive the woofers...
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Posted By: locologan
Date Posted: May 16, 2009 at 1:02 PM
Oops sorry I didn't know well what would be better if you looked up the model numbers and is a class d mono block 1ohm stable what I need
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