which 12’s should i get?
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Topic: which 12’s should i get?
Posted By: whitemike0110
Subject: which 12’s should i get?
Date Posted: May 19, 2009 at 1:13 AM
I want you advise for which 12's i should get.
I have a mtx thunder 1000.2 but when wired to 1 ohm each channel is 750rms and when bridged at 2 ohms it's 1500rms.
So basically subs in between 100-750 watts RMS
Price range 450$ for pair.
I'm thinking of maybe getting w3's JL what do you guys tihnk
Thanks for any and all advise
Mike
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Posted By: whitemike0110
Date Posted: May 19, 2009 at 1:20 AM
What about those circle kicker solobarric does anything have experiance with them. Or i was thinking maybe the Eclipse Aluminum..I dont know i need some help deciding thanks guys
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Posted By: ianarian
Date Posted: May 19, 2009 at 3:17 AM
W3's have produced some of the loudest bass I've heard. Cant go wrong with those. I usually pick brands that specialize on the type of equipment. Diamond Audio subs are my favorite I think.
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Posted By: aznboi3644
Date Posted: May 19, 2009 at 3:23 PM
Instead of jumping the gun and just arbitrarily recommending subwoofers, I'll ask you what type of music you listen to and how much space do you have to sacrifice for the subwoofer enclosure??
Also can your electrical system handle 1500 watts rms??
What type of bass response are you wanting??
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Posted By: whitemike0110
Date Posted: May 19, 2009 at 3:45 PM
Rap music is primarily what i'd be listening to. I have a deep cycle battery so yes my car should be fine,
but i dont think it'd want the full 1500 watts for sure.
I think i'd want it to be about 1000 so i can do 500 per channel.
I already have a nice big sealed box that's why i'd be going for some 12's. but i dont know for sure.
Maybe just 1 15"...the the Fi BL i was thinking about or the RE SX 15. My friend had two 12 BL's and didndt even have 1000w to each of them and that doodie hit so hard.
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Posted By: aznboi3644
Date Posted: May 20, 2009 at 12:42 AM
Big sealed box?? Did you just randomly build a big sealed box to fit in the space available??
I wouldn't suggest going around buying subs throwing them into a large random sized sealed enclosure.
Also BLs are not sealed box subwoofers so if you did install them in your enclosure they would sound like crap.
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Posted By: MikeHusain
Date Posted: May 20, 2009 at 8:09 AM
I have had experience with the latest W3 model subwoofers and they sound really nice but didnt give me that punch I was looking for. I currently have 2-12inch kicker L7's and they give me more than enough SPL that I was looking for but lack SQ. I don't regret getting these subs but I think I will eventually jump back to the JL's, maybe the W6'sV2. (a bit expensive though). If sound quality is what your looking for, with the right enclosure, I would recommend the W3's.
Posted By: whitemike0110
Date Posted: May 20, 2009 at 10:24 AM
aznboi3644 wrote:
Big sealed box?? Did you just randomly build a big sealed box to fit in the space available??
I wouldn't suggest going around buying subs throwing them into a large random sized sealed enclosure.
Also BLs are not sealed box subwoofers so if you did install them in your enclosure they would sound like crap.
It's not like a HUGE box, and i know BL's dont play in sealed. That's why i said one 15 i would get a new box. I mean, thanks for your concern for it sounding like s%#% but the only advise im really looking for is a good set of 12's ------------- Hello.
Posted By: lil evo
Date Posted: May 20, 2009 at 1:10 PM
I think what aznboi3644 is saying is that you don't just throw any speaker in any old box. Each driver has it's own special properties, and if you throw the speaker in a box that is ill-fitting, whether it's a sealed, ported, bandpass, whatever. If a box it too big or too small, ported incorrectly, sealed impoperly, etc, you can easily kill a speaker. Point being, you want a speaker to sound great and give you years of reliable performance, do your homework.
Posted By: whitemike0110
Date Posted: May 20, 2009 at 3:18 PM
Yeah and i apprecaite the advise, but if they didn't sound good in the box i have i would obviously buy one that suits them.
I guess i shouldnt of even included that in my post. and i didn't mean for it to sound like that but i guess i'm just more curious to what set of 12's is my best choice.
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Posted By: soundcontrol
Date Posted: May 20, 2009 at 6:24 PM
You really can't miss. If you go the ebay route almost everything will fit your budget. For the heavy low bass most people would suggest a ported enclosure. There are some really good prefab ones out there that fit in the general requirements given by most companies. Kicker is one off the top of myhead that gives a lot of different reccomended box suggestions. You have plenty of power to spare and if space isn't an issue I would suggest looking around at some places and listing to whats available and see what sounds best to you, I bought and sold a lot of subs, from low, mid, to very hi-end and have not been disappointed yet. The box will make a huge difference, along with the proper setup of the amp. ------------- Just do something
Posted By: soundnsecurity
Date Posted: May 21, 2009 at 6:42 PM
just for your information, if you want to go to a pre fab ported box and listen to rap music you better have a sub that can handle unloading at low notes. pre fab ported boxes are usually tuned pretty high like above 40hz. so what happens is when you hit a low note below 40 hz or so, ( rap music is filled with them) your ported box will basically lose control of the sub woofer and the cone will be flapping in the wind and i would dare to say that this is one of the biggest causes of mechanical failure in subwoofers. so if you want to avoid this happening i wouldn't stick your nice sub in a pre fab ported box, i would build or have one built and have it tuned to below 35hz.
also pre fab boxes are usually built poorly to begin with, i know that kicker boxes barely have nails in them and are mostly held together by a little glue and the carpet its wrapped in so there are a ton of good reasons you shouldn't go the way of the pre fab box, ported or sealed.
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Posted By: soundcontrol
Date Posted: May 22, 2009 at 12:44 AM
Not sure about Kickers but Audio Enhancers (AE) makes some nice boxes. Plus they make a lot of sub specific boxes for brands like MMats, JL, Diamond, and Kicker. Built to their specs for airspace and port tuning frequencies. But if you have the time and ability building is a great option No matter the sub you would be smart to properly set your amps subsonic filter at or above what the box is tuned at. Then set your crossover to your listening preference. This will help keep you from damaging any sub you may decide to purchase. ------------- Just do something
Posted By: aznboi3644
Date Posted: May 22, 2009 at 8:52 PM
Audio Enhancer boxes might as well be prefab...Too little port area IMO in pretty much all of their boxes.
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Posted By: soundcontrol
Date Posted: May 23, 2009 at 1:29 AM
They are prefab. But they do make enclosures specific to certain companies and their suggested specs. Add a couple of braces and your ready for action So have you made any choices on the subs yet? ------------- Just do something
Posted By: whitemike0110
Date Posted: May 23, 2009 at 9:00 PM
I'm getting two RE SX's 12s but i got a new box for them. I havent got it yet but i'm almost posivtive thats the way im going.
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Posted By: soundcontrol
Date Posted: May 24, 2009 at 2:00 AM
I hope they sound as good as they look. Hadn't had a chance to try or hear any of the RE's yet. Post an update after you break them in and let us know how they sound. ------------- Just do something
Posted By: panerailover
Date Posted: May 29, 2009 at 9:29 AM
I would stick to JL audio 12's
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