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just want to sound good

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Topic: just want to sound good

Posted By: jtwhite
Subject: just want to sound good
Date Posted: May 25, 2009 at 2:00 PM

Okay... Whats up guys.. One of my buddies referred me to this site because I'm basically clueless when it comes to this whole impendence thing.. I usually pick up on electronic things like this fairly quickly but I just cannot get a grasp on it...  I was looking at https://www.caraudiodeals.com/power-acoustik-fubar12w-p-1152.html subs which are dual 4ohm dvc.. so i called the local car audio shop to see what kind of amp to get they said i need to get a mono block class d amplifer at around 1000rms at 1 ohm... i said okay and looked around and found a few but while in the process i found these https://www.caraudiodeals.com/power-acoustik-p312w-p-2178.html which i assume are better? the only difference being higher rms rating and dual 2 ohm dvc? so I dont know if i get those do i need to get a different amp than the one they told me to get for the other subs? I'm just so lost any help would be greatly appreciated If anyone could tell me which of the 2 subs are better and what kind of amp to get for those that would be fantastic! Thank you! -Jake



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Posted By: jtwhite
Date Posted: May 25, 2009 at 2:03 PM
I suppose I should also inform you im looking for SQ not a bunch of SPL... I want it to sound good not just be a bunch of low useless bass throughout the whole song.. I listen to alot of rock and heavy music so being able to distinguish between the drum beats would be amazing rather than just a long drawn out flat blahhhhhh bass if you know what i mean :)




Posted By: tommy...
Date Posted: May 25, 2009 at 2:26 PM

First off...Are you doing install...? The Class D amp will allow you to use the full potential of those speakers(meaning an amp that can handle 1 ohm(although i would reccomend wiring it at 2 ohm  or 4 ohm for longevity)...Whether its dual 2ohm or dual 4ohm...It is all about how you wire + and - at the subs. You do not necessarily have to get a 1ohm stable amp...You can get a 2ohm stable amp and wire the subs to a 2ohm load and you will be fine...Power Acoustik is a middle of the road brand and you should be pretty satified w/ them...You dont need to look at power so much...For example...Memphis...Cerwin Vega subs do not require alot of power. You actually might be in the market for some 10's(music you listen to) ...What kind of stereo do you have...? I would recommend a 4 gauge amp kit...400-600 rms 1 or 2 ohm stable amp(If you have a little more to spend go for the Class D and we will guide you on how to wire subs,same w/ 2ohm amp)...A good set of 10's or 12's in a MDF box...And a little sound dampening material...



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Posted By: tommy...
Date Posted: May 25, 2009 at 2:37 PM

this is from a post by Dyohn and Haemphyst...Thought it might help

dj_mittens wrote:

Finally, I heard a rumor that dual 4-ohm drivers were "better" choices than dual 2-ohm drivers, all else being equal. Why would that be, if they are less responsive?


The rumor part, I think, comes from the "better" portion of it. Amps that are stable to 2 oms per channel are a dime a dozen today, as are 1 ohm stable mono amplifiers. Dual 4 ohm cols will provide more "safe" wiring options for more amplifiers available today - 8 ohm, 4 ohm, and 2 ohm wiring options (per woofer) - and 4 ohm, 2 ohm, and 1 ohm options with multiple woofers. Not that the rumor is completely "wrong", but if the d2o and d4o woofers are dsigned SIMILARLY, there won't be (or, at a minimum, SHOULDN'T be) a tremendous effect on transient response

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Posted By: jtwhite
Date Posted: May 25, 2009 at 2:37 PM
I have an Alpine CDA-7878 indash which i did a little research on and was apparently at one time a pretty sweet in dash..... I dont know bout these days but it does what i need it too.... Like i said im not trying to win bass wars i just want a good sounding stereo that'll put a lil thump in ur chest if you know what i mean =D... And i have had a couple different people say go with 10's for rock... Why is that?




Posted By: jtwhite
Date Posted: May 25, 2009 at 2:44 PM
Okay so if i go with 10's https://www.caraudiodeals.com/power-acoustik-p310w-p-2177.html .. am i going to want to put those in a sealed enclosure or ported?




Posted By: soundnsecurity
Date Posted: May 25, 2009 at 6:56 PM
first id like to start off by saying when you are going for sound quality in a system 1.) you get what you pay for and 2.) good sound is more than just picking a sub and amp. as far as amps are concerned, power is power, the difference between a good amp and a bad amp is build quality, not necessarily power output.

now that thats out of the way, are you looking to get 1 sub or 2? what is your budget? what car do you have? do you have anything else already in your system?

as far as picking a box, they say sealed will be better for rock music but in reality, its not that simple so the next bit of advice i can give you will depend on your answers to the questions above.

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Posted By: aznboi3644
Date Posted: May 26, 2009 at 2:13 PM
If you want it to sound good than stay away from cheap brands.

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Posted By: panerailover
Date Posted: May 29, 2009 at 9:24 AM
tommy madea very good point.. good road to take

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